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Cabatir,I certainly hope you weren't in the slightest bit being a racist by your remarks. Now if the foot was on the other shoe, instead of mat salleh it was 'Bumi' or 'chinky' what would have been your response!! There were supposedly racist remarks banded about on the other topics by Usman which other ppruners took exception to so please don't start one here! Remember Malaysia is a muti-racial country and proud to be so
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Ooooh Cabiatir you brazen shameless RACIST! 
Bateman I know the places you talk about. On KL overnights there were always shindigs goin on somewhere in Bangsar or Pitaling Jaya. Plentey of cheap Carlberg booze, hot-blooded malay chicks, and rock n roll! The locals sure know how to realy party!
Wouldnt mind applyin myself if the pay was civilised.
Bateman I know the places you talk about. On KL overnights there were always shindigs goin on somewhere in Bangsar or Pitaling Jaya. Plentey of cheap Carlberg booze, hot-blooded malay chicks, and rock n roll! The locals sure know how to realy party!
Wouldnt mind applyin myself if the pay was civilised.
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Actually, the first time I heard the term 'mat saleh' was in a taxi going from the Sheraton Imperial KL to Bar Flam. This taxi driver was gunning this clapped out proton through downtown KL at about 90, and started interrogating us about our night. He suggested that if we didnt have any luck with the girls, he could sort something out. When questioned, he whipped out this piece of cardboard with the following written on it in black nikko.
MENU
THAI 180
CHINESE 200
JAPANESE 350
MAT SALEH 500
I queried what the term 'mat saleh' meant, and was informed by my mates (staff at the sheraton), that it basically meant white girl.
MENU
THAI 180
CHINESE 200
JAPANESE 350
MAT SALEH 500
I queried what the term 'mat saleh' meant, and was informed by my mates (staff at the sheraton), that it basically meant white girl.
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Bar Flam? That's already quite a pick up joint, SPG's are popular there also. (ahem, so I've heard) Bangsar is generally great, food wise and an nice place to chill out. Hartamas is picking up too.
Anyway, to steer this thread back on to topic, AirAsia is embarking on Cadetships for young MALAYSIANS. Mind you, it's the low cost carrier way of a Cadetship in that they help you get a bank loan and then you pay back part of the cost of training thru salary deductions.
Qualified crew can still apply for direct entry then the'll help you get a bank loan for your 737 Type Course. At the end of the day it's a Jet Job right? As for Expat crew, keep your fingers crossed that the demand will be there so those of you interested, do keep your resume's ready and I and other's who are in the know, will keep you informed as we hear it.
Happy Landings.
Anyway, to steer this thread back on to topic, AirAsia is embarking on Cadetships for young MALAYSIANS. Mind you, it's the low cost carrier way of a Cadetship in that they help you get a bank loan and then you pay back part of the cost of training thru salary deductions.
Qualified crew can still apply for direct entry then the'll help you get a bank loan for your 737 Type Course. At the end of the day it's a Jet Job right? As for Expat crew, keep your fingers crossed that the demand will be there so those of you interested, do keep your resume's ready and I and other's who are in the know, will keep you informed as we hear it.
Happy Landings.
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Confusing Info.
Spoke to CP the other day, said that they wouldn't need Expats for a while, there are enough Malaysians apparently. Also rumours are that all the pilots under training at MFA are basically booked out by AA for jobs. In other words, do your training and your in, if you go through MFA and are Malaysian. Good luck to those guys.
I too have been applying for awhile as the present company, yes the Big Malaysian one, hasn't delivered on its promises - nothing new about that, just a typical organisational pathegen tumouring from inside.
When growth takes off (pun intended), I believe both companys: MAS, and AA are going to have to draw on Expats, one way or another. The Alternative: stagnate in growth.
I too have been applying for awhile as the present company, yes the Big Malaysian one, hasn't delivered on its promises - nothing new about that, just a typical organisational pathegen tumouring from inside.
When growth takes off (pun intended), I believe both companys: MAS, and AA are going to have to draw on Expats, one way or another. The Alternative: stagnate in growth.
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Bob Hawke,
What you have said is basically right, though the well is going to dry up sooner rather then later. I heard a couple of months back that there aren't many Malaysians pilots left that aren't already flying. The only ones and there can't be that many are all in training at MFA or privately overseas. It takes approximately one year to get their frozen ATPL and this is if they all pass their exams first time! The CP of AA might be correct in what he says but I'm sure he hasn't factored in the demand from the other airlines like Mas and Transmile. Personally I can't see where all the extra pilots are going to come from especially in the short term.
As post-sars travelling increases and indoubtly it will, Mas has already started to increase their flights to all the affected areas, it won't be long before they start fishing around for more pilots as they did pre-sars. AA have some 11 B733 coming in less then 11 months and to sustain their growth will be looking to start flying regionally as the Malaysian market can only sustain so much before saturation occurs not withstanding the fact that Mas also flys domestically and they would certainly not what to lose any more ground to their illustratious low cost competitor. This increase competition is not only good for the public but looking very good for any Malaysian pilots and eventually for expat pilots.
Goldwing2000
What you have said is basically right, though the well is going to dry up sooner rather then later. I heard a couple of months back that there aren't many Malaysians pilots left that aren't already flying. The only ones and there can't be that many are all in training at MFA or privately overseas. It takes approximately one year to get their frozen ATPL and this is if they all pass their exams first time! The CP of AA might be correct in what he says but I'm sure he hasn't factored in the demand from the other airlines like Mas and Transmile. Personally I can't see where all the extra pilots are going to come from especially in the short term.
As post-sars travelling increases and indoubtly it will, Mas has already started to increase their flights to all the affected areas, it won't be long before they start fishing around for more pilots as they did pre-sars. AA have some 11 B733 coming in less then 11 months and to sustain their growth will be looking to start flying regionally as the Malaysian market can only sustain so much before saturation occurs not withstanding the fact that Mas also flys domestically and they would certainly not what to lose any more ground to their illustratious low cost competitor. This increase competition is not only good for the public but looking very good for any Malaysian pilots and eventually for expat pilots.
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HI goldwing.
Got an email from a Malaysian airline personel department asking for my passport nr..so they could write a letter to the DCA..after i saked him what it was for he replied not to worry its info for the new crews??..
Are they planning to get my licence converted?i have an FAA and JAA(UK)ATPL.
Thanks..
M.85
Got an email from a Malaysian airline personel department asking for my passport nr..so they could write a letter to the DCA..after i saked him what it was for he replied not to worry its info for the new crews??..
Are they planning to get my licence converted?i have an FAA and JAA(UK)ATPL.
Thanks..
M.85
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I have followed this thread with interest as I am a Brit with a UK CAA (JAROPS) ATPL looking to live and work in Malaysia. I think I have the residency requirements sorted but I am not sure about licensing requirements for either Air Asia or MAS. Can anyone shed any light on the situation as it sounds like there could be a lot of expat vacancies at both companies shortly and I would lkie to be in a position to take advantage.
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M.85
If you have a JAA licence then no problems for the time being. I say that because no one at the DCA seems to know from one day till the other but as AA are very short of tech crew then I suppose the DCA will have to comply.
I've heard AA has already taken their first expat, a canadian with the January ground school consisting of only expats.
If you want to fly a nice aircraft and live in sunny Malaysia then go for it and apply. The airline is expanding rapidly so there's lots of opportunity. Good luck.
Goldwing 2000
If you have a JAA licence then no problems for the time being. I say that because no one at the DCA seems to know from one day till the other but as AA are very short of tech crew then I suppose the DCA will have to comply.
I've heard AA has already taken their first expat, a canadian with the January ground school consisting of only expats.
If you want to fly a nice aircraft and live in sunny Malaysia then go for it and apply. The airline is expanding rapidly so there's lots of opportunity. Good luck.
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Very interesting developments. Have spent time in Malaysia & have Malaysian wife & kids. JAA ATPL and 737-300 with unfortunately 0 hours as my company has just type rated a few of us & then made us redundant due to finance problems. Applied a couple of weeks ago. Have to wait and see lah! I hope AA do give us a look-in, it would certainly settle us once and for all. Pity there arn't any Shorts 360s in Malaysia - I've plenty of hours on that.
Good luck to you all for 2004 guys!!
Jack Sparrow
Good luck to you all for 2004 guys!!
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Aileron Roll
I don't think its that simple. Being married to a Malaysian doesn't give the me the right of abode or right to work there. Thats the way I understand it anyway. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. But lovely country, great people. We'd be back there if there was opportunity. Here's hoping though.
jack sparrow
I don't think its that simple. Being married to a Malaysian doesn't give the me the right of abode or right to work there. Thats the way I understand it anyway. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. But lovely country, great people. We'd be back there if there was opportunity. Here's hoping though.
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Jack
You are sadly correct being married to a Malaysian gives no automatic rights as far as I've found. I've been looking at the info here:
http://www.imi.gov.my/wife.html
I have also been advised that it only applies to wives of Malaysian's and not the other way around. It's only temporary anyway and I suspect won't work for Air Asia, who I guess want residency before job offer and not the other way around.
I think retirement offers my wife and I the best ticket home to Malaysia but not in my case for quite a bit...
You are sadly correct being married to a Malaysian gives no automatic rights as far as I've found. I've been looking at the info here:
http://www.imi.gov.my/wife.html
I have also been advised that it only applies to wives of Malaysian's and not the other way around. It's only temporary anyway and I suspect won't work for Air Asia, who I guess want residency before job offer and not the other way around.
I think retirement offers my wife and I the best ticket home to Malaysia but not in my case for quite a bit...
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Papee,
As far as I know, it has been DCA requirement that all pilots flying 7500kg aircraft or above are mandated to have an ATPL (frozen or otherwise).
In AirAsia's case, it would be advantages if you do your own rating; that way, they will not bond you for the next 7 years with a monthly pay cut of approx. RM700 or RM800. If I am not mistaken, they will arrange the loan from a bank and the monthly pay cut will go towards that loan. (provided you get into Air Asia)
For low timers, its a pretty good deal especially when you need the hours.
But your first step is to get the Frozen ATPL asap.
hav a jolly time flying
As far as I know, it has been DCA requirement that all pilots flying 7500kg aircraft or above are mandated to have an ATPL (frozen or otherwise).
In AirAsia's case, it would be advantages if you do your own rating; that way, they will not bond you for the next 7 years with a monthly pay cut of approx. RM700 or RM800. If I am not mistaken, they will arrange the loan from a bank and the monthly pay cut will go towards that loan. (provided you get into Air Asia)
For low timers, its a pretty good deal especially when you need the hours.
But your first step is to get the Frozen ATPL asap.
hav a jolly time flying
