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Old 5th Jan 2020, 16:41
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Latest news from BAV

Aircrafts, a mixture of planes coming from Etihad, Aeroflot, etc. Most of the fleet is now used.
company is looking to enter in the stock market and they offer stock options to employees several times. Looks like they need cash flow.
Vietnamese pilots got an productivity bonus at the end of the year. Expats none. Segnority list for Vietnamese only.
Still NO monthly roster. The schedule is changed daily and you have maximum five days of planning.
Rostering keep swapping your day available for company needs to day off after 11PM, so no real days off.
Training and dead head flights during your days off not counted as duty time. You are planned for positioning flights during your days off or your annual leave.
Layover day’s reimbursement policy have been changing several times. The last is 8,5 USD for SIM days or ground training only.
DFO is a kid playing with stickers on company Viber profile.
HR department is far far away to an airline standard. Too complicated and slow, quite unuseful.
FLC group benefits as hotel use or golf courts well sponsored as employees benefits are dreams only. The procedures to get them are quite unrealistic and created to avoid any chance to give them.
Several Expats are looking around to move quickly away.
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Old 6th Jan 2020, 03:29
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Doesn’t sound too tempting I have to say!
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Old 6th Jan 2020, 18:35
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Originally Posted by AAhamed View Post
Aircrafts, a mixture of planes coming from Etihad, Aeroflot, etc. Most of the fleet is now used.
company is looking to enter in the stock market and they offer stock options to employees several times. Looks like they need cash flow.
Vietnamese pilots got an productivity bonus at the end of the year. Expats none. Segnority list for Vietnamese only.
Still NO monthly roster. The schedule is changed daily and you have maximum five days of planning.
Rostering keep swapping your day available for company needs to day off after 11PM, so no real days off.
Training and dead head flights during your days off not counted as duty time. You are planned for positioning flights during your days off or your annual leave.
Layover day’s reimbursement policy have been changing several times. The last is 8,5 USD for SIM days or ground training only.
DFO is a kid playing with stickers on company Viber profile.
HR department is far far away to an airline standard. Too complicated and slow, quite unuseful.
FLC group benefits as hotel use or golf courts well sponsored as employees benefits are dreams only. The procedures to get them are quite unrealistic and created to avoid any chance to give them.
Several Expats are looking around to move quickly away.
Thanks Aahamd! I was thinking of joining as a cabin crew but now I don't think it's a good idea...
The package expat cabin crew get must be much worse. Plus the airline doesn't sound safe to me.
However, does anyone know more about the cabin crew side? Will they promote foreign crew as cabin managers or do they have existing ones to say the least... Thanks for sharing!
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Old 7th Jan 2020, 17:09
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What has been said above is all true, they have already fired a expat captain with 3 days notice over something trivial... typical Viet dictatorship airline , avoid unless your jobless with no other options!!
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Old 7th Jan 2020, 23:32
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Originally Posted by Kuo Yan Hsin View Post
Thanks Aahamd! I was thinking of joining as a cabin crew but now I don't think it's a good idea...
The package expat cabin crew get must be much worse. Plus the airline doesn't sound safe to me.
However, does anyone know more about the cabin crew side? Will they promote foreign crew as cabin managers or do they have existing ones to say the least... Thanks for sharing!
Vietnamese airlines hire foreign flight attendants?
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Old 8th Jan 2020, 09:30
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Originally Posted by umop apisdn View Post
Vietnamese airlines hire foreign flight attendants?
They do. My Korean ex-coworker has joined bamboo last year, Bamboo has quite a few foreign crew members. I'm not sure if they got the cabin manager position or if they can pursue that though. Can anyone share please?
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Old 21st Jan 2020, 15:08
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foreign leader: recruiting pilots not to fill positions, but to find 'right people'

https://vietnamnews.vn/brand-info/52...ht-people.html
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Old 1st Feb 2020, 02:48
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Well, my dear
the Company has now 22 aircraft in one year...quite difficult to have them all new....
Is mainly own by a private group, that means then “money doesn't fall from the sky” and enter in stock market is an usual procedure to collect investors.
Vietnamese are company employees while expats are employed by agencies... the contract is different.
No roster.... complain to your agent and follow the Vietnamese regulation. As pilot you are responsible to check your limits as well as the company needs to follow them.
Various benefit, same as above... your contract is the master.
All new companies have issues as well as old ones but we should look forward and try to be positive
😘
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Old 28th Feb 2020, 08:47
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I have just heard a rumor that effective today all pilots pay will be cut by 50% and the 6/2 weeks will be changed to 5/1 week.
Any truth to this?
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Old 29th Feb 2020, 18:17
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Originally Posted by UnderTheRadarAgain View Post
I have just heard a rumor that effective today all pilots pay will be cut by 50% and the 6/2 weeks will be changed to 5/1 week.
Any truth to this?
what a survival cut. not sure about BAV but a friend in VNA told me just only flight cut by half, not the pay.
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Old 13th Mar 2020, 01:05
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Bamboo airways is not paying at the moment to their pilots, they have been waiting for their salaries 4 days and no news...the virus is hitting hard the industry in Asia. And yes, pilots have been told to work 4-1 or 8-2 at the moment for the same salary...
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Old 21st Apr 2020, 15:41
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How is the situation at Bamboo Airways at the moment. Are they hiring pilots? Some agencies are recruiting for them
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Old 22nd Apr 2020, 03:21
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You think any company is the world would hire any pilot at this moment?
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Old 22nd Apr 2020, 08:11
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Alot of those recruiting ads appear to be way out of date as well or
maybe the recruiters are trying to build up a database for future
recruitment. I rang up CAE for a laugh about a position having been
told apply now by email. Answer: oh sorry thats on hold UFN, not surprised.
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Old 13th Jun 2020, 14:02
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Bamboo Airways present situation

Bamboo as other companies was facing a deep crisis after ncov19 period.
The bad management skills of BAV have been demonstrated to most of employers and suppliers including Vietnamese government.
Despite bad financial status the company is still surviving and they keep flying mainly because of employees sacrifice.
Salaries are deeply reduced and most of the employees are still waiting. Pilots are unpaid since February, or better they received last months up to 50% of February basic salary without other amounts earned. Instructors and trainees are unpaid since last year.

The company clearly wants to quit with pilot agencies since they start to recruit directly JetStar grounded pilots to replace their unpaid personnel that is out of the country and banned to fly back to Vietnam.

More than that they try to hire people directly from LinkedIn with their internal "talent scouting department" bypassing pilot agents.

In the mean time the BAV pilots are in Vietnam are flying with the dream they will be paid back.

Most of them hope to be smart of colleagues and some of them are flying for free .

Bamboo forced the agencies to pay 25% of February salary to people are in Vietnam Only,but those people will be waiting the other salaries earned longer and longer (Captain received 2600 USD, FO around 1700 USD).

In the same time the salary policy is monthly changing and bamboo keep swapping conditions and answering the agencies with different terms most probably just to earn time.

They need cash!.
Contractual terms are still vague and changing since most of the agencies try to discuss better conditions but since pilots are flying for free they don't have any reliable contract bargaining power.

That is the REAL situation of this bunch of a.......s despite all the fake news you are reading around.
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Old 15th Jun 2020, 08:34
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Need advise on Vietnam cadet

Hi guys, just finished my CPL training and time building (300hrs)

Was going to apply FO position in South Korea but corona just killed the market.

I am a bit old so i am planning to apply a job in Vietnam (Heard its better then Korea)

Anyone have advice about starting a career in vietnam in thesedays?

i contacted one of the agencies and they told me bamboo air is recruiting new cadets.

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Old 16th Jun 2020, 02:46
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Originally Posted by CKFOWB View Post
Hi guys, just finished my CPL training and time building (300hrs)

Was going to apply FO position in South Korea but corona just killed the market.

I am a bit old so i am planning to apply a job ini Vietnam (Heard its better then Korea)

Anyone have advice about starting a career in vietnam in thesedays?

i contacted one of the agencies and they told me bamboo air is recruiting new cadets.
So are you Korean or Vietnamese?
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Old 16th Jun 2020, 03:54
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South Korean
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Old 16th Jun 2020, 09:48
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Originally Posted by CKFOWB View Post
Hi guys, just finished my CPL training and time building (300hrs)

Was going to apply FO position in South Korea but corona just killed the market.

I am a bit old so i am planning to apply a job in Vietnam (Heard its better then Korea)

Anyone have advice about starting a career in vietnam in thesedays?

i contacted one of the agencies and they told me bamboo air is recruiting new cadets.

Unfortunately you don't have much of a chance! ATM Vietnamese are the ones doing the flying.
I don't want to ruin anyones dream, but don't loose time in VN. You are better off in S Korea I would say

Good luck
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Old 17th Jun 2020, 11:36
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Hi all,
Does anyone know the latest recruitment status for Bamboo? Before I get any smart comments, I am obviously aware of the situation globally.
The only reason I ask is because I applied recently throught their website and recieved an email from requesting documents and application forms etc. etc..

Have things started to move in that part of the world?

Much obliged!
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