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Old 10th Oct 2013, 15:30
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LaoCentral 737

Looking to hiring pilots?
more probable to stop flying soon
Thai pilots used to fly there and left, foreigners left, cabin crew complain, mechanics scared. management not knowing what they do, pay is not good always late, sometimes no salary!!
I think only Lao pilots will go this time

old thread asking about Sukhoi, not know if they hire now, but I know they hire everyone that accepts to go. Plane is ****, training is ****, money is for Lao people. I heard that soon temporary Russian pilots might go, and then aircraft will be parked for long time like Boeing of company in Wattay, more than 1 year.

Maybe someone will go, but better good luck
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dont think they hiring, just fishing
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why you say Sukhoi aircraft is ****?
Sukhoi Superjet is excellent aircraft. More advanced than Airbus family.

All the Thailand people do not like Sukhoi but the aircraft is very good.
Maybe Lao people a lot smarter than Thailand, Sukhoi is better and cheaper, that is why they buy it.
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Sukhoi

SSJ is proprietary aircraft....everything must come from Sukhoi at an inflated expense.

Airbus, Boeing, Embraiar are avial on free market, Sukhoi is not.

Parts, training, paperwork, MX, and pilots are extremely cost prohibitive due to the proprietary concept of Sukhoi.

As well the SSJ has issues itself......Poor fuel economy (2.1 kg) and many life limited items. Biggest mistake we made.

try to buy Sukhoi parts somewhere else.

try to get Sukhoi training somewhere else....it won't happen. Get a Boeing!
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I dont know what do you mean about propritary.
Sukhoi free market, Mexico, Indonesia, Armenia all buy aircraft, very satisfied.
SuperJet new, so little problems, most times reason mechanics dont understand so modern systemes.
Sukhoi parts like all other, training same. Not Sukhoi offering, free market, trainig centres.
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Old 16th Oct 2013, 14:28
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Hiring is joke. Russian only hiring for Sukoi, and pilots coming are joke too.
When pilots sent by Sukoi for little time leave, then Suprejet will have accident soon.
Boeing longterm ground, other Boeing no maintenance, Sukoi no proper pilots.
All for lower the cost, lower the cost.
but, all know it is no cost, company has no profit, only what wordrover said, purpose is money launder.
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CNN as a reputable, thrusted news source...:-) Asiana in SFO, UPS in BHM... I would not call these exactly safe landings either. I don't think that the political system is connected to the flight safety of a country.
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If the bottom end is rotten you have to look at the top/middle to see why its so.
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Lokee sound like is in the company.
Maybe he can give some interesting informations for other foreigners.
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company now almost closed

many schedule flight canceled, pilots and mechanics not paid, cabin crew the same. last foreigner captain (not Thai) left, only one f/o left.

chairman success completed
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Company again trying to hire 737 pilots!!! it a joke

now with Sukoi rpogram finished, they have only one aircraft and this will spend soon at least one month aog for maintenance. if they have the money to fix it.

if not, the new pilots will accep to fly with a dangerous aircraft for peanuts.

the ad say "lca is expanding its internatonal network" !!! ther e is no network!
compay was flying to BKK, and now not even there

stay away, these are dangerous people
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LCA

LCA is actively recruiting Boeing Pilots as their plans of of Sukhoi expansion have been discontinued.

This is a small family air carrier that started a few years back and was financially drained by a group selling them the SSJ. They have since realized that it was a scheme to extort funds and cancelled further orders for the SSJ. Now they are concentrating on bringing the Boeings back into service as their main fleet. Unfortunately, they allowed the Boeings to lapse into non airworthy aircraft and want to fly them without the proper return to service maintenance procedures.

As well, their AOC documentation is very questionable. Coupled with the fact they have no one with international airline management experience and most of their suppliers have them on a cash only basis, the operation is running on a wet dream.

Their main assets.....the great Lao and Thai workers that strive daily to keep the airline running. Often with their pay in arrears many months. Dispatchers get about $200 a month, Cabin Crew about $100 a month. Office Staff $50 a month and quite often they are not paid.

Should you even consider their advert as sincere, then May I suggest you query them about:

Why the last 5 Boeing Captains left the company and why they have not been paid their salary to date.

Who is the Director of Flight Operations and their contact number.

Who is the Director of maintenance and why he or she will not answer questions about the Airworthiness of the Aircraft.

Who is the Chief Pilot and and the Chief Instructor.

Ask to see OM (A) (B) (C) (D).

Ask the name of the local DCA Inspector's phone contact that oversees the
Airline.

Ask why they are required to pay CASH for services, even in VTE.

Ask how long their Indoc classes are and where they are held.

International expansion? Where? Do they have route approval? Have they done an assessment for an IOSA audit?

But most of all, take a ride in there aircraft on the jumpseat for a few legs.

And if you still are not convinced, query them on the salaries and bennies.

Listen to half of what they say and believe 10% of that.

Educate yourself before you fornicate yourself.
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All the comments from Oosik are 100% right. Exactly right...

This company is inexristent. No personel, no knowledge of operation, no facilities, no planing, no nothing.

Dont make this mistake. You have been warned.


Oosik , what hapened to your last post? Dont censor your posts, A.U. (the "window washer" and 'volgapilot") would be happy for this.
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Looking at Volgapilots written English skill no need to worry about that
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Old 14th Jan 2014, 08:52
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Maybe I dont talk good english. True

But all this oosik is writing is lies. Trust me I know.
Sukhoi is excellent aircraft, LCA only terminated it because there was someone in the company that with his snake tongue persuaded everyone it was not good for them!

Then he promised to fix everything, chose other aircraft, pushed many pilots out of the company, brought his own friends, pilots who could not fly, then he failed .
No promises, no organizing, no paperwork, no new pilots. And then, they find out he is a criminal in his country and he is ilegaly in LaoPDR. And he left like a thief.

Now he cannot return, if he does he will get in big trouble by Lao, by Sukhoi, by many people. But he success in destroying the company and the SSJ100 program.

Maybe LCA will continue, maybe Sukhoi or not, but only without people like him, sent for a reason and then go. That is why many expats left, he was the reason, and also why many did not come, he did not want any pilot sto come. Only brought his friend, to try fly the Sukhoi and pretend he can fly and be a pilot. Not possible. Sukhoi crews sent by company loughing at him wanting to be a captan. Who bring him here? You know who...

No extort funds etc. Sukhoi sold good aircraft to a friend country Russia and LPDR long friends, send pilots and mechanics, support, eveything. And Boeing because Sukhoi not Boeing sale, send someone to stop this.
Other expats friendly to SSJ pilots, but this one not even talking to them. Colleague!!

Maybe SSJ not A320 success, but aircraft is very good. Program termination due to one person only.
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Volgapilot you are not wrong about this.

This person was very bad for Laos central, but also Sukhoi program management has fault in the result.
The US captain that you are talking about did push out many expats, was talking bad behind the Thai group pilots, tried to fire the Armenia pilots, talked bad to management for other expat pilots and did not let anyone come fly for Laos central.

It is true, he only bring friend of his to have someone in the Sukhoi program.
I think he will not be in Laos never again. I hope for him.

But Oosik says right things too. Company heard advise from the wrong people, both him and from Sukhoi side and the result is, many good people left.
In beginning Laos central had some good, exprienced people, expats and Thai, they could start something good. Then because of this fight you say between SSJ and Boeing, company did not do anything for operations, only fight inside.

Many people left, many many wrong decisions, many mistakes, chaiman trust wrong people like this american captain, and now no manuals, no pilots, no future.

If managemet want to make it a good company they can do it.
But they have to get the right people. and no more save money only. No good pilots or manager will come there for low money, only people that create problems. Like the one you are talking about.
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Old 15th Jan 2014, 06:42
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I thinking too late now

Wrong persons made big mess in company, russian-american does not matter. both made big mess now no aircraft flying no order no experience management nothing.

what oosik say about cah only is true, company has bad reputation with Thailand with everyoene.

Now they want to start flying new places and expand! big change needed to do that, big change in way managers think, pay, people they bring here, and then keep here not go after while

i think noway
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Old 15th Jan 2014, 14:03
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I happened to be in Laos a few weeks ago and they were not flying from Bangkok to Vientiane, in fact they were not even selling tickets.

Looking for a flight to Luang Prabang I didn't hear their name as an option either.
I think they are already history. Might be wrong but one of you guys there can give a credible report on it.
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Old 17th Jan 2014, 14:53
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LAOCENTRAL still alive.

not many flights, one boeing 737 only and very bad condition, always aog.
pilots afraid, not flying any longer maybe3 fligts every week, sometime.

still trying to expand
I think means trying to start
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maybe not closed already but soon will

owners have wrong way of thinking and will not change.

they think they are smart but they are not. They keep making same mistake, trusting wrong people and then they listen to their every stupid idea and they waste millions of money. They are not smart to see if someone tells them the truth or lies.

Waste millions and then complain about few thousand dollars to get pilots and managers that are experienced and they will stay there.

they will not change and they will stop operating.
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