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Old 28th Jun 2013, 13:57
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Do the "179" have any idea from Management when they will start?
If not maybe some got an offer elsewhere? as you say if it is 7 then it's not alot.
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Old 28th Jun 2013, 17:20
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As far as i know 7 management guys has left. 1 i know for sure is the Director of flight operations. They could't take the working conditions. Apparently its pretty ****.

And for the ab initio guys im not too sure about it. But from what i heard no intakes for cadets anytime soon. Lots of back log with training and aircraft isn't coming in as soon as planned. Not too sure about how many has been trained though.

Any more info from the ab initio guys with contracts would be nice.
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Old 29th Jun 2013, 02:13
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y friend told me it is the same as walking into a flying club and paying to fly the single engine,....except flying club hours are useless in applying for jet jobs. Well, Rm290 or USD100 an hour is "cheap" to fly an ATR or a jet. Just consider it as a hobby which pays after you completed 500 hours!
OMG, you can't be serious?? In an airline you have hundreds of passengers who have paid for a ticket with the understanding that they will be flown to their destination by someone who is a professional pilot. Not someone who considers it the same as flying a joy flight in a C172. If that's the attitude of you and the many other Malaysian P2Fs flying for Malindo in the future, then I hope the flying public will stay well clear of you.
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Old 29th Jun 2013, 09:11
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Paying "RM145K for B738 rating" (USD $46,500)...?

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Old 29th Jun 2013, 12:16
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Its not Malindo its now called Mal-india as all other races have been removed from holding any important positions.
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Old 29th Jun 2013, 15:29
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It is if they are from Management.


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Old 30th Jun 2013, 05:09
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the 145K is probably just a figure made up out of thin air. Its to cover any losses is usually the excuse given.

Doesnt seem very clever, if you paid for the TR as the "Trainee" you could go off unless they give you a loan which then gives them leverage.

Good luck to them then to go to court to recover the remaining 300K bond.
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Old 30th Jun 2013, 05:33
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the 145K is probably just a figure made up out of thin air. Its to cover any losses is usually the excuse given.

Doesnt seem very clever, if you paid for the TR as the "Trainee" you could go off unless they give you a loan which then gives them leverage.

Good luck to them then to go to court to recover the remaining 300K bond.
That's the screwed up part of the contract that i'm still wondering whether if its true. Cause according to the contract, rating is paid by the cadet themselves, and yet the company still bonds them for 15 years AND 300k is required to be paid to the company if they leave before bond is up. On top of that the first 500 hours of no pay. Not too sure the meaning of no pay as in basic allowance or flight allowance. Either way is pretty much RIDICULOUS.

As far as i know, Malindo doesnt help with loans, everything is up to the cadet to deal with, company just provides the training.

My info may not be accurate as i heard it from someone whose brother is one of the 179 who got in.
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Old 30th Jun 2013, 06:44
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Malindo Pilots Contract

the 500 hours no pay part isn't true. it was speculated earlier on but when the contract was out, there was no mention of the 500 hours thing.
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Old 30th Jun 2013, 07:00
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In that case we are down to pay the 145K RM first for TR .

No pay to fly fro 500hrs.

Bonded for 300K, 300K RM for what, Any Groundschool (eg,RNP/RVSM,SEP, LVO,Line trg intro class etc) Base Trg if not included in TR and Line training. Cant believe it costs that much and Line training is on revenue flights, as you say Ridiculous.
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Old 30th Jun 2013, 07:37
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Any idea what the contract states? Basic pay, allowances, benefits etc.
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Old 30th Jun 2013, 10:23
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Quite frankly I think you have all gone mad !!!
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Old 30th Jun 2013, 14:45
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death of the professional pilot.

i agree with captain woobs.

by accepting these ridiculous contracts you have set precedence which will destroy our profession, and turn us in to rapid kl driver.

when i graduated, i applied everywhere. i even applied to do cloud seeding in a shorts 360.

i just hope that these guys who are paying money to fly, actually do want to fly, and are not doing it for bragging rights. i hope they have the attitude and aptitude to fly. i do not want to see another airliner crash because the guy in the right seat was holding nose up in a stall, wondering why the aircraft is not reducing its vertical speed.

remember kids, the day you complain that the airline does not respect you, it is your own fault. have fun playing with lives.

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Old 17th Jul 2013, 12:42
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There is a freeze on ab initio intake and only a few of the 179 ab initios signed up by Malindo is sent for training this year. Everyone else has to wait indefinitely because Malindo has recruited lots of experienced captains and co-pilots from other airlines.

Thanks to Malindo, other airlines are opening up and recruiting ab initios and training them now. This is good news for those waiting in line.
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Old 26th Jul 2013, 12:45
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Thumbs up

Malindo is expecting another 6 737s and 3 ATRs delivery before end of October, 2013. This airline is growing by leaps and bounds. I remember AA only had 2 aging 727?? for the first 1 or 2 years!

Total 10 aircrafts by October 2013 and they only started in March!

Really respect the LION KING.
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Old 28th Jul 2013, 00:18
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Twins9,

If you are referring to AA being airasia then it was 2 x B733's.

AA from memory refers to American Airlines and again from memory they started before the 727 was on the drawing board. It started as American Airways and was renamed American Airlines circa 1934.

Again I rest my case. " I think you have all gone mad "

Wooblah.
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Old 28th Jul 2013, 03:47
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I hear several FY Capts left for Malindo ATR but due to slow start went back to FY and politely told sorry No Job here mate,
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Old 28th Jul 2013, 12:47
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ATRs coming in, 4 total by October. Do they have enough 737 pilots? 6 737 just till October and if 2 more by December....
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Old 25th Aug 2013, 11:46
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Anyone has updates on Malindo ab initios pilots employment? Lets not argue about the funds, bonding, etc.

Have the first group started flying? When will they start training Batch 2?
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Old 26th Aug 2013, 11:13
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Twins9,

Why don't you front up at their office with 300K and tell them to give you a job. Because we all know it's a money making racket.

It is obvious that you are desperate for slavery and that your Daddy has bags of money. So no big problem here!

Wooblah.
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