Jet Airways 777 wet-lease...
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The Jet-Etihad "deal", specifically the management, is presently under review by the Indian Government and they will decide what is in the best interest of their Country
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the problem with Indian aviation, or just about any upcoming entity, boils down to three simple factors
1. a monarchy masquerading as a democracy
2. a national culture where no Indian can stand watching another do well
3. a level of unsurpassed greed
with these 3, you can fill in the blanks and see why Jet, or any company will be unable to remotely flourish, sans a few established ones.
Goyal and Mallya, are not Tata's or Murthy,s, or even remotely Branson's backside.
stay away
1. a monarchy masquerading as a democracy
2. a national culture where no Indian can stand watching another do well
3. a level of unsurpassed greed
with these 3, you can fill in the blanks and see why Jet, or any company will be unable to remotely flourish, sans a few established ones.
Goyal and Mallya, are not Tata's or Murthy,s, or even remotely Branson's backside.
stay away
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I will tell you what the real problem is. It is the lack of clear leadership at Jet Airways. Just look at the market strategies adopted by them during the last 3 years and it will explain everything. Simply put they really don't know what they are doing. Now you throw in a CEO from a Mid East Airline who is equally clueless and you have a rabied situation where Jet decides to go on a bankruptcy facing expansion drive. And before you know it they will realize it was all a mistake and start laying off crew and the like.
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Lots of passengers...
THY will allocate aircraft according to capacity requirements....I operated Istanbul to Izmir recently, a 40 minute domestic sector with 336 out of 337 seats filled going there and about 280 on the return leg....
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Corsair I really can't comment much about Turkish except that I know that it is a rapidly growing airline and is poised to be a major global airline. I daresay that it will be the 4th major Mid East Airline within the next 5 years.The arrangement is simple , Jet Airways do not have routes on which they can place the B777 that they have so they offered them on a lease to anyone for the right price. THY wanted them for strategic reasons and now its a win win. Jet Airways desperately needs the money and THY the aircraft and crew .
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I believe the flights to GRU did not go ahead due to The Indian Regs. requiring 4 pilots for that flight/duty period, we only were using 3 pilots to GRU, the current utilisation has The Jet A/C doing IST-BKK-SGN-BKK-IST, IST-BOM-IST and normally 2 x LHR a day, whatever flying they do frees up THY A/C for other things....
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After being over there and seeing how they operate there is no way they will get up to speed. They only have one subpar simulator that is just above a level c at best and couple of instructors.
And to top it off who would want to go over there when:
1. They do not reimburse for visa fees that run about three hundred Euros.
2. You have to buy your way to a gateway airport of there's and they only give you a notice of two days before an interview therefore the airfare is super expensive mine was eight hundred euros.
3. Economy class tickets that are all the way in the back of the plane in the last row and having the lav motors and doors he whole flight.
4. The mention they will reimburse for recurrent training is FALSE they give you a contract that says you have to pay for the costs up front and have to wait three months to get reimbursed after you are on the line and all checked out is BS all these head hunters including Sigma and Parc are full of it for pushing this notion it's all smoke and mirrors. I turned the offer down. They an all go to hell for all I care
And to top it off who would want to go over there when:
1. They do not reimburse for visa fees that run about three hundred Euros.
2. You have to buy your way to a gateway airport of there's and they only give you a notice of two days before an interview therefore the airfare is super expensive mine was eight hundred euros.
3. Economy class tickets that are all the way in the back of the plane in the last row and having the lav motors and doors he whole flight.
4. The mention they will reimburse for recurrent training is FALSE they give you a contract that says you have to pay for the costs up front and have to wait three months to get reimbursed after you are on the line and all checked out is BS all these head hunters including Sigma and Parc are full of it for pushing this notion it's all smoke and mirrors. I turned the offer down. They an all go to hell for all I care
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Yes I made it through they wanted me to start ASAP However I refuse to pay for all recurrent training costs out of pocket that is totally unacceptable. If they had there act together they would be picking up the costs like the majority of other outfits that have there act together and regularly have classes at a TRTO and its all done in one shot. All I saw there was one simulator and no class rooms and the sim was the worst I've flown it broke three times while I was there. Jet airways is operating on a bandaid one would be crazy to shell out money for out of pocket training costs, hotel, airfare, meals, etc. when others are doing the right thing
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Hi Massager
I know from at least 3 folks that got reimbursed from the retraining costs (15ish K) just 2 weeks after signing the dotted line.
As per the ticket for the interview they are very clear about reimbursing up to 1k USD, which they honored as well.
And for your seat preference, sorry, but I dont think anyone nowadays will offer you a confirmed business seat for an interview, except maybe KAL.
But this is another story.
I wont call JET a bunch of liars.
Of course MANY things could be improved, beginning with the rotation itself.
As per the ticket for the interview they are very clear about reimbursing up to 1k USD, which they honored as well.
And for your seat preference, sorry, but I dont think anyone nowadays will offer you a confirmed business seat for an interview, except maybe KAL.
But this is another story.
I wont call JET a bunch of liars.
Of course MANY things could be improved, beginning with the rotation itself.
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Exotic....
Wow...great destinations...
When flying at night and the gear just in the 'well', do the Indian F/Os still grab their pillows and 'bwankies' then set up their bed and fall asleep, leaving expat Capitanoh to ply the stars by himself?
When flying at night and the gear just in the 'well', do the Indian F/Os still grab their pillows and 'bwankies' then set up their bed and fall asleep, leaving expat Capitanoh to ply the stars by himself?
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it appears that some of you lack a proper upbringing, and are a disgrace to the flying profession.
put your views across, and let the others deicide. every pilot has an opinion, and a different set of circumstances.
to call them silly names, is to show your infantile leanings.
grow up.
put your views across, and let the others deicide. every pilot has an opinion, and a different set of circumstances.
to call them silly names, is to show your infantile leanings.
grow up.
