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Susi not Legit
Quoting a few posts earlier....
>PT6A
>I don't think that kind of clause is legal, SUSI is not exactly known for being >totally legit anyway!
You're right about that. She has Herry Bhakti and the DirJen Imigrasi in her pocket along with friendships in media (Surya Paloh), politics (Prabowo, Megawati) and airlines (merpati MD). The latter arranged with her to ruin a certain NZ-ers career in Indo when he jumped ship. Yeah, watch out for her.
IF
>PT6A
>I don't think that kind of clause is legal, SUSI is not exactly known for being >totally legit anyway!
You're right about that. She has Herry Bhakti and the DirJen Imigrasi in her pocket along with friendships in media (Surya Paloh), politics (Prabowo, Megawati) and airlines (merpati MD). The latter arranged with her to ruin a certain NZ-ers career in Indo when he jumped ship. Yeah, watch out for her.
IF
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For pilots that do not know.... the Indonesian DGCA has place a 250HRS on type on all aircraft (PART 121 and 135)
so you need 250hrs min on A320/B737/ATR etc.. before you are accept, IF YOU ARE A EXPAT PILOT. no more ZERO hours pilots need to apply. even you have a indonesian licence or not.
Protecting the local work force....
so you need 250hrs min on A320/B737/ATR etc.. before you are accept, IF YOU ARE A EXPAT PILOT. no more ZERO hours pilots need to apply. even you have a indonesian licence or not.
Protecting the local work force....
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sorry to hear that, hope the airlines could negotiate that to permit pilots arrive to Indonesia.
detik Finance : Ini Syarat Baru Pilot Asing di Maskapai Penerbangan Lokal
Monday, 21/01/2013 10:45 PM
Jakarta - domestic airlines now can not fool around hiring foreign pilots. Section, Ministry of Transport (MoT) to tighten regulation on the use of foreign pilots by the national carrier.
MoT confirmed, the move was made in order to improve aviation safety, in particular to prevent a number of serious incidents and incidents involving aircraft of foreign pilots.
"Foreign pilots must have experience flying the type of aircraft flown, particularly at 121 and 135 air carriers," said Transport Ministry was quoted as saying on the official website on Monday (1/21/2013).
To that end, the Ministry of Transport in this case requires DGCA foreign pilot license to use Indonesia or will validate the license must have a minimum of 250 hours of flying experience on the type of aircraft to be flown.
MoT added to airline operators who will hire foreign pilots, must meet all requirements including minimum experience requirement at the time of filing foreign pilots flying for validation or endorsement to the Directorate General of Transportation.
"The provisions come into force starting from January 10, 2013 in accordance DGCA letter dated January 10 AU.403/1/1/DJPU.DKUPPU/2013 number on the Use of Foreign Pilot," wrote the statement.
Currently the Ministry of Transportation records, there are about 600 foreign pilots working in the national airlines such as Lion Air, Citilink, Garuda Indonesia, Wings Air and Sriwijaya Air.
detik Finance : Ini Syarat Baru Pilot Asing di Maskapai Penerbangan Lokal
Monday, 21/01/2013 10:45 PM
Jakarta - domestic airlines now can not fool around hiring foreign pilots. Section, Ministry of Transport (MoT) to tighten regulation on the use of foreign pilots by the national carrier.
MoT confirmed, the move was made in order to improve aviation safety, in particular to prevent a number of serious incidents and incidents involving aircraft of foreign pilots.
"Foreign pilots must have experience flying the type of aircraft flown, particularly at 121 and 135 air carriers," said Transport Ministry was quoted as saying on the official website on Monday (1/21/2013).
To that end, the Ministry of Transport in this case requires DGCA foreign pilot license to use Indonesia or will validate the license must have a minimum of 250 hours of flying experience on the type of aircraft to be flown.
MoT added to airline operators who will hire foreign pilots, must meet all requirements including minimum experience requirement at the time of filing foreign pilots flying for validation or endorsement to the Directorate General of Transportation.
"The provisions come into force starting from January 10, 2013 in accordance DGCA letter dated January 10 AU.403/1/1/DJPU.DKUPPU/2013 number on the Use of Foreign Pilot," wrote the statement.
Currently the Ministry of Transportation records, there are about 600 foreign pilots working in the national airlines such as Lion Air, Citilink, Garuda Indonesia, Wings Air and Sriwijaya Air.
Last edited by ArmApp; 21st Jan 2013 at 11:53.
For pilots that do not know.... the Indonesian DGCA has place a 250HRS on type on all aircraft (PART 121 and 135)
so you need 250hrs min on A320/B737/ATR etc.. before you are accept, IF YOU ARE A EXPAT PILOT. no more ZERO hours pilots need to apply. even you have a indonesian licence or not.
Protecting the local work force....
so you need 250hrs min on A320/B737/ATR etc.. before you are accept, IF YOU ARE A EXPAT PILOT. no more ZERO hours pilots need to apply. even you have a indonesian licence or not.
Protecting the local work force....
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I think Aunty Susi already did.... 
Jakarta Post..
In a bid to improve aviation safety in the country, the Transportation Ministry has recently issued a new regulation requiring domestic carriers to only hire foreign pilots with a minimum 250 hours of flying time.
Should a local airline wish to hire a pilot to fly an Airbus plane, he or she must have 250 flight hours on that type of plane.
Bambang S. Ervan, the ministry spokesman, said the new regulation was aimed at preventing serious incidents involving foreign pilots.
“This is in anticipation of any aviation incident in the country, especially those involving foreign pilots. The regulation has been effective since Jan. 10,” Bambang said in Jakarta on Monday.
He said the new regulation was applicable to passenger airlines that bore Air Operator Certificates (AOC) 121 and 135 — scheduled and non-scheduled/chartered flights. “The regulation does not apply to pilots who fly airplanes with a capacity of less than 30 passengers,” he said.
Previously, the Indonesian government had not stipulated a specific amount of flight time for foreign pilots authorized to fly with domestic carriers, only that foreign pilots could work for Indonesian airlines for up to two years.
Most of the pilots, Bambang said, had only around 50-150 hours of flight time before they signed up with Indonesian carriers. “We believe that experienced [foreign] pilots with more flight hours can bring added benefits to our aviation industry before the slots are re-occupied by locals,” he said.
Currently, Bambang said there were some 600 non-national pilots flying with the country’s major operators: Lion Air, Garuda Indonesia, Sriwijaya Air, Citilink and Wings Air. The remaining 5,000 pilots are local.
The Indonesian aviation industry is suffering a shortage of local pilots in the face of a rapid fleet expansion by airlines in recent years.
The ministry has allowed airlines to temporarily hire foreign pilots or halt their fleet expansions pending the availability of more local pilots.
According to the ministry, Indonesia needs up to 600 new pilots annually, more than three times the total number of pilots who graduate from the state-run Curug Aviation School in Tangerang, Banten, the Aviation Academy in Surabaya, East Java and 12 other smaller private aviation schools, some of which are affiliated with local carriers.
“We are going to open two more aviation schools this year, in Medan [North Sumatra] and Makassar [South Sulawesi] to increase our capacity to produce local pilots,” Bambang added.
Contacted separately, Edward Sirait, the general affairs director of the country’s largest low-cost carrier, Lion Air, said that the new regulation had forced the airline to accelerate its capacity to produce more local pilots. “We plan to establish an aviation training academy in Kalimantan this year in order to keep up with our expanding fleet and the regulation,” Edward said.
Garuda Indonesia vice president of communications Pujobroto said that the regulation did not affect the airline’s plans as it had already limited the use of foreign pilots.
“At the co-pilot level, foreign nationals must have logged a minimum of 500 hours flight time for one type of aircraft before joining Garuda. For a pilot, the figure is 1,000 hours,” Pujobroto said.
He also said that the co-pilots and pilots underwent training twice a year by Garuda in order to improve their skills.
Jakarta Post..
In a bid to improve aviation safety in the country, the Transportation Ministry has recently issued a new regulation requiring domestic carriers to only hire foreign pilots with a minimum 250 hours of flying time.
Should a local airline wish to hire a pilot to fly an Airbus plane, he or she must have 250 flight hours on that type of plane.
Bambang S. Ervan, the ministry spokesman, said the new regulation was aimed at preventing serious incidents involving foreign pilots.
“This is in anticipation of any aviation incident in the country, especially those involving foreign pilots. The regulation has been effective since Jan. 10,” Bambang said in Jakarta on Monday.
He said the new regulation was applicable to passenger airlines that bore Air Operator Certificates (AOC) 121 and 135 — scheduled and non-scheduled/chartered flights. “The regulation does not apply to pilots who fly airplanes with a capacity of less than 30 passengers,” he said.
Previously, the Indonesian government had not stipulated a specific amount of flight time for foreign pilots authorized to fly with domestic carriers, only that foreign pilots could work for Indonesian airlines for up to two years.
Most of the pilots, Bambang said, had only around 50-150 hours of flight time before they signed up with Indonesian carriers. “We believe that experienced [foreign] pilots with more flight hours can bring added benefits to our aviation industry before the slots are re-occupied by locals,” he said.
Currently, Bambang said there were some 600 non-national pilots flying with the country’s major operators: Lion Air, Garuda Indonesia, Sriwijaya Air, Citilink and Wings Air. The remaining 5,000 pilots are local.
The Indonesian aviation industry is suffering a shortage of local pilots in the face of a rapid fleet expansion by airlines in recent years.
The ministry has allowed airlines to temporarily hire foreign pilots or halt their fleet expansions pending the availability of more local pilots.
According to the ministry, Indonesia needs up to 600 new pilots annually, more than three times the total number of pilots who graduate from the state-run Curug Aviation School in Tangerang, Banten, the Aviation Academy in Surabaya, East Java and 12 other smaller private aviation schools, some of which are affiliated with local carriers.
“We are going to open two more aviation schools this year, in Medan [North Sumatra] and Makassar [South Sulawesi] to increase our capacity to produce local pilots,” Bambang added.
Contacted separately, Edward Sirait, the general affairs director of the country’s largest low-cost carrier, Lion Air, said that the new regulation had forced the airline to accelerate its capacity to produce more local pilots. “We plan to establish an aviation training academy in Kalimantan this year in order to keep up with our expanding fleet and the regulation,” Edward said.
Garuda Indonesia vice president of communications Pujobroto said that the regulation did not affect the airline’s plans as it had already limited the use of foreign pilots.
“At the co-pilot level, foreign nationals must have logged a minimum of 500 hours flight time for one type of aircraft before joining Garuda. For a pilot, the figure is 1,000 hours,” Pujobroto said.
He also said that the co-pilots and pilots underwent training twice a year by Garuda in order to improve their skills.
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Could you please share the link or a reference on the content you wrote below the heading 'the Jakarta post'
I tried looking it up online, couldn't find it...
Thanks
Could you please share the link or a reference on the content you wrote below the heading 'the Jakarta post'
I tried looking it up online, couldn't find it...
Thanks
my aussie friends got invited to attend the interview on jan 8th.
Some are flying b737, some only fly turboprops in local carrier in Indonesia for over 2 yrs..
They applied thru normal website/email addres.
one thing in common, all of them holding Indonesian license..
Some are flying b737, some only fly turboprops in local carrier in Indonesia for over 2 yrs..
They applied thru normal website/email addres.
one thing in common, all of them holding Indonesian license..
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“The regulation does not apply to pilots who fly airplanes with a capacity of less than 30 passengers,” he said.
“The regulation does not apply to pilots who fly airplanes with a capacity of less than 30 passengers,” he said.
I'm not talking about those joining Susi. Follow the thread and read my quotes, mate. It was mentioned earlier that some guys from Susi applied for Garuda and were interviewed. But if successful, they would be foreigners without 250 hours on the type of aircraft Garuda operates. Where do they stand with the new ruling that foreigners employed by local airlines will now need 250 (or 500 if more recent reports are true) hours on type? Unless these guys had 250 hours on the CRJ1000, B738or A330 before joining Susi, it's unlikely that they will proceed with the selection process for Garuda, given the new regs.
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still happening
well, yesterday, Garuda still interviewed expat pilots in Jakarta.
those expats are holding indonesian licenses, without TR..and even no jet experienced.
good for them...
they will be based in Medan and Makasar, and get 5 yrs contract...:-)
those expats are holding indonesian licenses, without TR..and even no jet experienced.
good for them...
they will be based in Medan and Makasar, and get 5 yrs contract...:-)
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haha... DGCA...nothing a few business/first class seats and few days all paid holiday on there first flight to London wont solve.
Termed under special circumstances Garuda will be exempted from the 250hr rule.. blah blah... hahah
... probably stating that due to there excellent safety record and superior training.. no need to implement the 250hr rule.. and we will control the number of expats we will employ...
Money talks...
Termed under special circumstances Garuda will be exempted from the 250hr rule.. blah blah... hahah
... probably stating that due to there excellent safety record and superior training.. no need to implement the 250hr rule.. and we will control the number of expats we will employ...Money talks...
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The reason I ask is that by changing companies, they will require a new KITAS sponsorship by Garuda and that can only be given, once their previous KITAS has been terminated. This usually requires your previous employer to do the paper work and issue you with an EPO, after which, you can then get your new KITAS sponsored by your new company.