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Old 27th Sep 2012, 07:31
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Thai City Airways

I just saw an airlines in Thailand called City Airways is looking for captain and fo on lastestpilotjobs.com.

If anyone got any info on this company, including T&C's would be great

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Thumbs down Is City Airways goiing to fly?

Airline has had major problems due to the Thai DCA suspending the airlines AOC due to defects in maintenance and poor operations. New investor from main land China has taken a major stake in the airline. Operations have started again; however, the Thai DCA are keeping a careful eye on the overall operation to ensure improvement.
Half of the F/O’s have left due to wages always being late. The contract is worthless; you don’t get paid if you give notice before payday. Most crew are flying without contracts or work permits. Remaining aircraft on the fleet, HS GTE, is up for a D check early next year and no new aircraft are planned.



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Where on the website?
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The Thai DCA are doing what? Hilarious!
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City Airways company profile, from their web site.

They have 1 aircraft and 1 route.

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City Airways. Co.,Ltd was established on 24 February 2011 The airline, incorporated with 200 million baht of capital, focused on the China market, is spreading its wings by adding three jetliners and launching its first scheduled domestic flights. City Airways, owned by a group of Thai, Chinese tour firms and Hong Kong airline owner , will take delivery of three Boeing 737-400 single-aisle jets before the year-end; augmenting its fleet of four aircraft of the same type.
It is also launching scheduled flights from Bangkok’s Don Mueang airport to Chiang Mai and Phuket. The plans, disclosed by chief executive Mr. Hung , make the step forward for the airline that took to the skies only in October last year with one B737-400 on charter flights between Bangkok and Hong Kong. City Air operated charter services by carrying Chinese tourists to Thailand. The beginning of July scheduled daily flights from Bangkok to Hong Kong .City Airways will take delivery of the fifth B737-400 in the middle of the sixth towards the end of this year.
In this year 2013, Planed to operate charter flights for Buddhist pilgrims to Bodh Gaya and Varanasi in India and South Korea. Tight market supply. City Airways will seek to put B737-800s, a bigger model in the B737 range, in its fleet to support a plan to offer longer-range routes .As for our goal, we aim to touch all our passengers with the best service, safety and low cost. City Air will make a great service and understood they needs and demands of passengers no matter how complex they may be.
Next, we are working with partners to develop new opportunities into better ways to meet passenger’s needs. From the convenient of ticketing channel to the secure of payment is all our focus to serve the best things to our customer. We are providing Booking Online system to our customer to do reservation online and the customer using credit card, visa card, master card, and union pay to process payment.

"As you many know, to operate into China the company must have at least two aircraft if its a foreign registered carrier. City have 1. Bullsh!!ters"
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If you like being paid, stay far far away from this dodgy operator. They have only 1 aircraft remaining and Thai DCA is doing their best to shut this place down for safety issues.

Everything Hogger1 said is true.

You have to pay for your air ticket to start working for this hack job, then have to pay for your own visa and fly out of Thailand on your own dime to apply for your work permit. Everyone you have to deal with does not speak english, nobody knows what they are doing in all departments. A bus operation is probably run better than this hack job of an airline, if you can even call it that.

So unless you have nothing better to do with your life and like being shafted and not getting paid, by all means, join City Airways. Anyway, you won't have to stay there long, as they will be closing shop soon.
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City Airways grounded due to safety concerns..

Hongkongers stranded in Thailand after airline grounded over safety fears

Safety concerns and worries over lax aircraft maintenance forced the grounding of a Hong Kong-backed regional airline that has left hundreds of holidaymakers from the city stranded in Phuket, Thailand, Thai officials have said.

Aviation authorities in Thailand have revoked landing rights for City Airways, and yesterday the airline - which has been operating regular flights since October 2012 - asked Hong Kong to cancel its parking slots at Chek Lap Kok airport.

"We were concerned about passenger safety following a report that revealed that City Airways has not been following proper procedures during maintenance on their planes," Santi Pawai, the director of the ministry of Tourism and Sports Phuket office, told the Phuket Gazette yesterday.

The latest developments effectively ground the airline as it can no longer use three of the five airports it serves, Hong Kong, Phuket and Bangkok's Don Mueang International. Flight schedules for the two mainland airports it serves - Nanchang Changbei International Airport and Nanjing Lukou International Airport - do not mention City Airways.

John Findlay, a former general secretary of the Hong Kong Aircrew Officers Association, said: "Safety comes first. It's absolutely correct that they have suspended operations.

"But the Thai authorities have to investigate first before Hong Kong civil aviation department is in a position to act. It's often the case that shortcutting in safety maintenance is a cost-cutting strategy."

The Travel Industry Council said yesterday that it had not been informed of the status of the passengers in Phuket.

Thai officials had scheduled two replacement flights from Phuket to Bangkok yesterday.

A Civil Aviation Department spokesman would only say that City Airways "was designated by the Thai aviation authority to operate scheduled services between Thailand and Hong Kong".

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Thumbs down

Mr Hung should go and play in the Hotel Business or Gambling. Always this kind of guy playing in the Airlines making a mess up.
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City Airways planes are safe, its Hong Kong-based director insists

City Airways planes are safe, its Hong Kong-based director insists

Co-owner of airline that left travellers stranded says late submission of documents was to blame





City Airways' Hong Kong director Terence Mak Hung expects the airline's operations to resume next week, after. Photo: SCMP Pictures




The Hong Kong director and co-owner of City Airways has hit back at claims that the airline's aircraft are unsafe after Thai authorities suspended its operations on Saturday.
Terence Mak Hung, who was speaking to the South China Morning Post by phone from Bangkok, said he expected operations to resume next week, after passengers were earlier left stranded.
Confusion arose after one of the airline's directors went on holiday to Japan over the weekend, just at the time when authorities requested documentation as part of routine checks, according to Hung.


"Because of this, we were able to submit only part - not all - of the documentation that Thailand's Department of Civil Aviation requested," he said yesterday. "We have today submitted full documentation to the Thai [authorities] and expect to be flying again by next week. We are awaiting their response."
All 300 passengers who had been stranded in Phuket were flown back to Hong Kong on Wednesday with three different carriers, Hung said.


City Airways said it covered the costs of all accommodation and rescheduled flights.


On Wednesday, Thai officials voiced concerns that City Airways was not following proper safety procedures for the maintenance of its aircraft.


"We were concerned about passenger safety following a report that revealed that City Airways has not been following proper procedures during maintenance on their planes," Santi Pawai, the director of the Ministry of Tourism and Sports' Phuket office, had told the Phuket Gazette on Wednesday.


Hong Kong's Civil Aviation Department confirmed yesterday that the airline "has provided information to [us] concerning the matter".


The department added that the Thai authorities had acted "in line with the international practice as part of the global aviation safety assurance regime".


Peter Lok Kung-nam, who headed the Civil Aviation Department from 1990 to 1996, said it was impossible to tell when airlines were taking cost-cutting measures that may affect its passengers' safety.


"With bilateral air services like this, each part - Hong Kong and Thailand - has to accept the integrity of the other," Lok said.
Since the first City Airways flight from Phuket to Hong Kong was cancelled on Saturday, other flights heading back to Hong Kong have also been cancelled, with no alternative flight arrangements made for the passengers.


City Airways is a small airline owned by a group of Thai, mainland Chinese and Hong Kong investors. It ran its first flights, between Hong Kong and Bangkok, in October 2012 on a 170-seat Boeing 737-400 aircraft. The airline now has five such planes linking six cities.







This article appeared in the South China Morning Post print edition as HK director denies City Airways planes unsafe




City Airways planes are safe, its Hong Kong-based director insists | South China Morning Post

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Exclamation Boeing King are you sure?

Hopefully this may clear up this misunderstanding.

Hongkongers stranded in Thailand after airline grounded over safety fears

Safety concerns and worries over lax aircraft maintenance forced the grounding of a Hong Kong-backed regional airline that has left hundreds of holidaymakers from the city stranded in Phuket, Thailand, Thai officials have said.

Aviation authorities in Thailand have revoked landing rights for City Airways, and yesterday the airline - which has been operating regular flights since October 2012 - asked Hong Kong to cancel its parking slots at Chek Lap Kok airport.

"We were concerned about passenger safety following a report that revealed that City Airways has not been following proper procedures during maintenance on their planes," Santi Pawai, the director of the ministry of Tourism and Sports Phuket office, told the Phuket Gazette yesterday.

The latest developments effectively ground the airline as it can no longer use three of the five airports it serves, Hong Kong, Phuket and Bangkok's Don Mueang International. Flight schedules for the two mainland airports it serves - Nanchang Changbei International Airport and Nanjing Lukou International Airport - do not mention City Airways.

John Findlay, a former general secretary of the Hong Kong Aircrew Officers Association, said: "Safety comes first. It's absolutely correct that they have suspended operations.

"But the Thai authorities have to investigate first before Hong Kong civil aviation department is in a position to act. It's often the case that shortcutting in safety maintenance is a cost-cutting strategy."

The Travel Industry Council said yesterday that it had not been informed of the status of the passengers in Phuket.

Thai officials had scheduled two replacement flights from Phuket to Bangkok yesterday.

A Civil Aviation Department spokesman would only say that City Airways "was designated by the Thai aviation authority to operate scheduled services between Thailand and Hong Kong".

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Update on City Airways.

If you look closely at the registration of the aircraft above, HS GTA. The aircraft is already gone from their fleet consisting of a single aircraft, (HS GTE). Not sure when the aircraft left the fleet but I’m informed that it was in the first quarter of 2014.

On the pay front, its ground hog day. Pay should come in on the 5th of the month, this month only 60,000 Baht, and that was paid on the 10th. Captains as per usual no productivity pay.

Question is, when are the remaining Captains going to call it a day. Lots of 737 operators looking for experienced captains in Bangkok. When they are off its game over for City Airways. If I was a betting man I’d say that the place will be closed by years end.

No end of new money can fix the problems at City. So if you’re thinking of joining at least you’ll do the winter season.

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You’ve been warned, this man is dangerous to your financial health.

Mr. Johnny Hung, aka, Mr Terence Hung Mak Hung is now the acting CEO of City Airways. The guy has form, as he was the previous owner of Thai Sky operating the L1011, in the years 2005 to 2006.
If you meet this man, please check your wallet as he’s a first class con artist and serial fraudster. He operates the airline as long as he can without paying his suppliers and staff. He then stops operations due to lack of crew, and disappears into the night with his ill gotten gains. At least this has been his MO to date.
So please pay careful attention to the man in the picture below, he’s a thief.

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This is a true pay to fly airline. By that I mean you fly for free, as you will not see a dime of your money. Promises made, promises broken. If you are a pilot, stay as far away from this as you can. Rotten maintenance and failure to pay crew is an accident waiting to happen.
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Anyone credible and competent there has departed the fix at this point.
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City Air

Hung and his adolescent, smart mouth kid are up and running again.
Got some investors to put down several million baht. Though they quickly found some discord with the infamous Hung duo when the money they put forth ended up in Hung's personal account and not the Airline's.


Quick action saved them from being "HUNG-up" and left to dry sans the money.

Word is that John is only doing the marketing now, but we all know that you can't keep a rat very far away from the cheese.
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NG on its way I believe.
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CAAT Finally cracking down?

CAAT puts brakes on City Airways 'No confidence' in safety standards

14 Feb 2016
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A City Airways flight to Hong Kong with more than 100 passengers was grounded at Don Mueang airport on Saturday after the airline became the third to face suspension this year.

The Civil Aviation Authority of Thailand said fresh doubts were cast over City Airways' safety standards and the airline missed a key deadline on Friday.

CAAT chief Chula Sukmanop told the Bangkok Post Sunday his agency found City Airways unsafe to fly and ordered the 8am flight E8-326 to Hong Kong grounded until the problem was rectified.

The flight suspension left 160 Chinese passengers stranded.

Mr Chula said the airline was responsible for taking care of the stranded passengers and finding alternative flights for them.

He said the Hong Kong aviation authority also raised a red flag on the airline's airworthiness in five areas. Two of the faults have to do with a co-pilot working without taking the mandated minimum break and the airline employing some untrained flight attendants.

The CAAT informed City Airways in advance that it would be allowed to operate only until Feb 12, unless the problems were solved. Regular City Airways' flights from Phuket to Hong Kong were also suspended yesterday on similar grounds.

City Airways management appealed to the CAAT for leniency, saying it had about 2,000 passengers booked for travel.

"But this is strictly a matter of aviation safety and so I told them no," he said.

The CAAT ran checks and discovered the airline has unpaid debts to Aeronautical Radio of Thailand and aircraft leasing firms.

Mr Chula said the CAAT will consider the airline's finances and decide if it is fit to conduct business in the aviation industry.

An aviation source said City Airways has unsettled bills worth about US$1 million (36 million baht) with several aircraft leasing firms in the US. The airline operates a Boeing 737 aircraft on its Don Mueang-Hong Kong and Phuket-Hong Kong routes.

The source added the airline was also behind in paying its pilots' salaries. Aircraft maintenance standards were also questioned. The airline charges low-priced fares, attracting mostly Chinese tourists.

A source in the Transport Ministry said small private airlines, particularly charters, have been monitored closely as some of them are prone to liquidity crunches and financial insolvency with cases pending in court. Air safety is also a major problem.

Founded in 2011, City Airways was originally owned by a group of Thai, Chinese and Hong Kong tour firms. There was a corporate shake-up with a new shareholding structure a year ago, a step which was reported to have turned the business around. City Airways could not be reached for comment.

The airline is the third to come in the firing line of the CAAT this year. On Jan 16, Business Air's operations were suspended after it was unable to settle debts estimated at one billion baht. The CAAT has rescinded the registration of the airline's only aircraft.

On Jan 27, the CAAT banned an aircraft belonging to Asian Air, a small Thai-owned, full-service airline, from leaving the navy-owned U-tapao airport in Rayong to pick up passengers in Macau before flying on to Palau, an island country in the western Pacific Ocean, after it received an order from the Central Bankruptcy Court to freeze the debt-laden airline's assets.

In the case of Business Air, the airline failed to settle debts valued at about one billion baht, which resulted in the halting of its operations and 700 passengers stranded at South Korea's Incheon airport and hundreds more at Suvarnabhumi airport.

The airline petitioned the Administrative Court, which agreed it could resume operations pending a final ruling on its debt burden. Thai aviation authorities told the airline it must improve its safety standards.

The airline, whose company was renamed to Intira Airlines from Business Air Center, has paid-up capital of 400 million baht. In the latest revenue filing to the Ministry of Commerce, the airline reported net sales of 3.97 billion baht with net profit of 57.4 million baht in 2013. Financial statements showed total revenues of 3.98 billion baht in 2013, but only four million baht in cash and bank deposits, and 400 million baht in debt.

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Do you have a picture of this duo?
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They are officially Done and finished!!!
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Hopefully holding up a skyway somewhere?
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