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Old 5th Jun 2012, 22:50
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Air India stops negotiation adopts new strategy

As per the latest report, Air India has stopped negotiating with the striking pilots and has taken them off the pay rolls. Also, the civil aviation minister has said that Air India will be unveiling a new business plan and strategy inorder to revitalize the maharaja. What would the 300 pilots do ??
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Join the dole? I can't see the other airlines fighting with each other to take the strikers on....

AI has been looking for expats for the least few weeks to fill the ranks.
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PT6A - If Air India or any Indian Carrier would hire someone who has 1250++ hrs on PT6A-sixty series and 2000++ hrs in the air with an Indian License. I would be the happiest. I promise I wont strike for 787 esp if I am flying a plane powered by the incredible GE90 !!

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Air India plans to hire pilots to run long-haul international operations - The Economic Times

Now that is some good news.
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Who in their right mind would go "scab" in India???
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Scabs?? I guess you are still crossing a picket line but how different is is really when they are hiring expats anyway? Do you expect the current expats flying for air india to honor the strike also and refuse to fly?
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Do you expect the current expats flying for air india to honor the strike also and refuse to fly?

Nope, just the ones that go there after the fact to specifically replace the dispute pilots...
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The news says that AI will hire new pilots soon. That too- Co-pilots.

Any views on that? 100 new vacancies and 90 trainees to be fast tracked.

Is there going to be a fresh interview for these positions or the 737 TR guys applying before 11th June as per the already posted vacancies are going to fill these 100 positions?

I hope they consider freshers too..

What do you guys think?
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I suspect they are looking for experienced wide body international folks to replace the fired strikers.....
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I certainly hope nobody decides to go to Air India to replace these pilots. If you have pilots fighting for better conditions and you opt to go in and fly for them, you've lost the big picture, and deserved to be branded a scab.
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I certainly hope nobody decides to go to Air India to replace these pilots. If you have pilots fighting for better conditions and you opt to go in and fly for them, you've lost the big picture, and deserved to be branded a scab.

Hear hear!!!!
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I certainly hope nobody decides to go to Air India to replace these pilots. If you have pilots fighting for better conditions and you opt to go in and fly for them, you've lost the big picture, and deserved to be branded a scab.
Better conditions aka B787 instead of flying the B777 ?? Strike was an absolute disastrous decision they ve made during the peak Indian Holiday Season. There were various methods that could have been used to get their points across. Given the market conditions these guys dont realize the value of their job. The sad part is many of them have directly gone on to fly Jets after their flight school. Had they been flying instructors doing stalls a hundred times a day then flying dusty turbo props finally making it to regionals and followed by majors.. then that seat would have been truly earned. Asking for exclusive rights to B787 is ridiculous esp when there are so many bus drivers (ex IC) with 20000 hours + on the bus !! Its all about ego clashes !! The only sympathy they receive is because they were a part of Indian Pilots Guild.
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Get the aircraft back in the air and get rid of those who do not appreciate that they have a job in these tough times!
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I certainly hope nobody decides to go to Air India to replace these pilots. If you have pilots fighting for better conditions and you opt to go in and fly for them, you've lost the big picture, and deserved to be branded a scab.
Perhaps if you were well informed of the reason of the strike you would realize that it is not a strike, but rather tantamount to a child holding their breath until they turn blue.

These brats are not concerned with better conditions, but more so about who gets to play with the new toys first.
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I suspect they are looking for experienced wide body international folks to replace the fired strikers.....
Where are they going to find wide body experienced folks from?
Have the KF drivers who wished to leave been absorbed elsewhere yet?

Most of all.. is any of this likely to translate into vacancies for fresher at all???
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Where are they going to find wide body experienced folks from?
Have the KF drivers who wished to leave been absorbed elsewhere yet?

Most of all.. is any of this likely to translate into vacancies for fresher at all???
The only Indian Air Crew they can target are KFA's considering the 6 months rule in India for switching from one airline to another. I probably think they would target experienced Turbo Prop and probably Mini Bus FOs with a decent experience say 2000 hours ??


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The only Indian Air Crew they can target are KFA's considering the 6 months rule in India for switching from one airline to another. I probably think they would target experienced Turbo Prop and probably Mini Bus FOs with a decent experience say 2000 hours ??
I know you fall into that category GE90.. wishful huh??

I guess it makes sense. Best luck for that...

But what about the internal FOs..
Since they have plenty of experienced internal 737 FOs and an exam for fresh ones already arranged for next week, could there just be promotions and replacements?

Also.. I am hoping that absolute freshers might have a part to play... (Its AI..)

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They are targeting British Airways, American Airlines, Continental etc etc etc that is who Air India via the agencies is on the the look out for. To say bye bye to the trouble makers in their ranks.
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I know you fall into that category GE90.. wishful huh??
I believe I have paid my dues including hand flying entire 4.5 hour sectors at FL250 in RNP 5 environment and doing raw data ILS when RVR is 1000 meters gusting 35 knots & DU .. I want to RVSM now.

I dont know what Senior FOs with IX would choose command on B737 or upgrade on B777. I am not sure what position these guys are going to hire for ? Probably a relief/cruise first officer on 777 like cathay or FO on B737 ?? Also a few of the FOs with IX are also members of IPG so what is their plan of action ?? Have to wait and watch.
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Not that i care. But GE90, could you name ONE idiot in IC still flying, and with 20k plus hours on the bus. JUST ONE name will do. And i'm ok with initials too. Thx.

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