Vietnam Airlines bangs up another one...
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Vietnam Airlines bangs up another one...
Just days after the Viets drove an A321 goes off the runway at Ho Chi Minh City subsequently destroying the tires and landing gear, yesterday they had a tail-strike involving the 777.
I can't believe that the A321 Captain who destroyed the landing gear on that A321 could get promoted and upgraded on to the 777 so fast.
I can't believe that the A321 Captain who destroyed the landing gear on that A321 could get promoted and upgraded on to the 777 so fast.
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No surprise. Never have I seen such a poor standard in all my life. Trainers (very loosely termed) who wouldn't qualify for a second officer position anywhere else. Terrible knowledge and ability and huge egos combined with nepotism and corruption. What a recipe for disaster!
Flying through pure "rote" not actually understanding what their doing or why. Just pure blind luck and the reliability of Boeing.
If there is one company in the world right now that's heading for a hull loss then its Vietnam airlines. Especially from what I witnessed on the 777 fleet.
The whole system is fundamentally wrong.
There will be more incidents you can be guaranteed of that.
I personally think it won't be long before their put on the "banned" list for Europe, and already Australia has been raising eyebrows at some of the recent incidences on the 330 going into Melbourne.
Flying through pure "rote" not actually understanding what their doing or why. Just pure blind luck and the reliability of Boeing.
If there is one company in the world right now that's heading for a hull loss then its Vietnam airlines. Especially from what I witnessed on the 777 fleet.
The whole system is fundamentally wrong.
There will be more incidents you can be guaranteed of that.
I personally think it won't be long before their put on the "banned" list for Europe, and already Australia has been raising eyebrows at some of the recent incidences on the 330 going into Melbourne.
PappyJ,
What's the source of your info? I have not been able to find any references in the local media.
What's the source of your info? I have not been able to find any references in the local media.
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I personally think it won't be long before their put on the "banned" list for Europe, and already Australia has been raising eyebrows at some of the recent incidences on the 330 going into Melbourne.
I am not arguing with you at all, but I can not see any reference to this incident, can you pls send some more details so I can find more info please.
I am not arguing with you at all, but I can not see any reference to this incident, can you pls send some more details so I can find more info please.
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Isn't it a member of Star alliance or somethin'? And what do
the other carriers say about this nonsense? I haven't heard a
damn thing.
It will probably reach the point when pax just won't touch VN
and demand another connecting carrier, and then the Alliance
members themselves will get fed up and recruit a safe carrier
like JSP or something.
the other carriers say about this nonsense? I haven't heard a
damn thing.
It will probably reach the point when pax just won't touch VN
and demand another connecting carrier, and then the Alliance
members themselves will get fed up and recruit a safe carrier
like JSP or something.
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it seems like you are a very bitter people pappy and b777-200er no one put a gun to your head and ask you to join vietnam airlines,if you are a pilot in vietnam then you should just leave....seems like all this stress will give you a heart attack.
all airlines have their share of little screw ups,look at qantas...they have had some news breaking problems with their planes...does this mean they are not safe?
what about american airlines which overshot the runway in jamaica ? or the 2 idiots from northwest which missed their TOD coz they were bitching about the airline?
you seem very biased and should leave if you are indeed working here. or wait maybe you can't as the states and europe are still messed up !
all airlines have their share of little screw ups,look at qantas...they have had some news breaking problems with their planes...does this mean they are not safe?
what about american airlines which overshot the runway in jamaica ? or the 2 idiots from northwest which missed their TOD coz they were bitching about the airline?
you seem very biased and should leave if you are indeed working here. or wait maybe you can't as the states and europe are still messed up !
Last edited by angelgabriel; 16th May 2012 at 08:57.
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I left the airline. I couldnt work with them. "all" of my intake of 777 pilots did the same. They were terrible. You can talk them up and try and put a different spin on them, the truth is, the evidence is speaking loud and clear all by itself.
They'll be more too.
They'll be more too.
PappyJ,
So was there a tailstrike or not?
So was there a tailstrike or not?
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India, when incidents happen in this part of the world by locals, it doesn't get in the news, you won't read about the facts the next day, but this type of situation is certainly not limited to SE Asia, I can name a pretty big EU country that has the same practices. 
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Yes I left the airline, and until I joined Vietnam Airlines I have never been compelled to write anything up about anything or even join pprune before. Im not a renegade or someone with a grudge, but the things I saw at VN were unbelievable. On top of that, they were nasty, Incompetent and made it very clear that expats were not welcome on their coverted fleet of old 777's.
They were looking for any angle to try and shaft you, and dock your pay.
Ive had the benefit of working with proffessionals in my career and first class airlines. People who are qualified for the positions that they hold and know what their doing. I cant say that of Vietnam Airlines.
The standards at VN were low. Very low and the calibre of trainers and capts there also very low.
As I stated previously, there will be more incidents. It will be as a direct result of having inexperienced and unqualified people in positions of management and the flight training department.
Its only a matter of time before Vietnam Airlines has a major incident. I would not allow my family to fly with them for that reason.
They were looking for any angle to try and shaft you, and dock your pay.
Ive had the benefit of working with proffessionals in my career and first class airlines. People who are qualified for the positions that they hold and know what their doing. I cant say that of Vietnam Airlines.
The standards at VN were low. Very low and the calibre of trainers and capts there also very low.
As I stated previously, there will be more incidents. It will be as a direct result of having inexperienced and unqualified people in positions of management and the flight training department.
Its only a matter of time before Vietnam Airlines has a major incident. I would not allow my family to fly with them for that reason.