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[vserian]

Just wait and see what will happen with the cadets. Most of them will end up here and it does cost huge money as well to train them on the mainline. And there is a reason why they are looking for cadets especially Indians, no not because they love Indians, If there was no reason behind this then I dont see why cadets from all the countries should be welcomed (just like etihad did) or is there not enough singaporeans CPL holders or even cadets to fly their own aircrafts???

[etops777]

I am sure the pay won't be that bad just minus the allowances for school and housing. I suspect it would be in line with Tiger and Jetstar Asia with a base of 8000-10000 SGD plus flight pay and per diem. This would equate to about 16000-17000 SGD roughly per month for about 80 hours of flying.

Captains at Jetstar Asia doing 80 hours a month will get around 16700 sgd. This is not a bad salary for a LCC..

[dl_88]

if there was no reason behind this then I dont see why cadets from all the countries should be welcomed (just like etihad did) or is there not enough singaporeans CPL holders or even cadets to fly their own aircrafts???

there isnt any way for one to get a CPL in singapore unless you're employed with a company(correct me if i'm wrong). The highest license one can get is a PPL(R). If one wants to get a full licence, one has to go over to malaysia to complete the navigation portion of it.
I think there are quite a few singaporeans doing their CPL and flying over here in aus(me included).
For singaporean male citizen, we have to be 26yrs of age to apply to SQ. The few avenue to become a pilot with a singaporean licence is to either go with jetstar cadetship, Airforce route or Singapore Airline Cadetship. The expensive way is leave the country to go and learn flying overseas.

[Stallone]

you see, doing an international cadet thingy ala Etihad is way too time consuming and require lots of effort, so SQ won't bother. And as you can see, Etihad last did it in 2008/2009. Last year's was non-existence

why choose India? Bigger pool of "talents", and SQ now requires them to have at least a university degree so as to sieve out the "undesirables"

CPL holders in Singapore? haha, this place ain't India, CPL holders aren't aplenty.

and with them being so high in standard when choosing potential cadets from both Singapore and Malaysia, there's bound to be a lack of cadets, thus they head to India.

[CDRW]

Etops777 - yea I think you are right about the package. The new LCC - what ever it will be called (SIA Saver??) , will offer what the other LCC's are offering - maybe a tad more ( say + S$500/ month) to make it "attractive". Most likely another productivity based package - with no guaranteed hours buts lots of verbal hype that if you do 80 hrs you get a decent wage. Just don't go on leave or get long term sick!!

Build it and they will come????!!! Where will Captains come from? One source may be all the ex SQ 744 guys that were given the right old flick a few years ago and are now in Qatar?? Depends who they dislike more. Etihad, Emirates = maybe a few Asian fellows who left SQ to join a middle east carrier, now have their commands and want to get back to Asia. But would anyone leave EK to join a SIA LCC??? Would anyone leave any 777 operation to a SIA LCC?

Fourgolds - I think you are wishful thinking to the max. The very nature of LCC dictates max hours. Just ask any AirAsia pilot.

I suspect that the HR department are not too worried if they don't get the expected interest. One of the largest pools of 777 crew are right on their doorstep. Mainline 777 pilots will be "seconded" to fly the LCC. After all who is the daddy in all this. SQ!! And if anyone think that they wont put cadets onto the LCC fleet to be trained, then you are in cloud cuckoo land.

[vdaff]

@stallone

did you know that not even 1 single India got selected in Etihad cadet programme in its history?

SIA is taking in Indian because they are the ones who are ready to accept slavery contracts

[Stallone]

well nobody forced them to sign on the line on contracts offering substandard terms

if the terms are significantly lower than what is usually offered, well then they have nobody to blame if they're eventually "reshuffled" to fly for the LCC

[rotatejunkie]

@ Stallone---
You're opening a can of worms.

Can it mate.

[hobbes234]

Originally Posted by stallone

...why choose India? Bigger pool of "talents", and SQ now requires them to have at least a university degree so as to sieve out the "undesirables"...

I sense frustration... LOL

[dl_88]

i don't blame him for feeling that way mate. Won't say i'm a happy camper too.

[Twinotterguy]

As soon as I saw they need Indian cadets, I knew they are going to give a crap contract because Indians are probably the last "talented" cheap workers

and not to mention they are talented in faking hrs, marksheets and corrupting the whole country

[Fluke]

hey fourgolds, come to Turkish. I am doing 450 hrs year on 777 for bugger all money. Great life, green grass and Beer during Ramadan !

[fourgolds]

Heard TK is a good gig. Just wish they would start hiring again on the 777.
Perhaps soon . Alas I,m off to start my 97 hrs for this month ! Anything is looking better long term. The sandpit can keep their money , the boys are starting to get sick .

[fourgolds]

Heard TK is a good gig. Not hiring at the moment though on the 777.
Perhaps soon . Alas I,m off to start my 97 hrs for this month ! Anything is looking better long term. The sandpit can keep their money , the boys are starting to get sick .

[millerscourt]

fourgolds

We heard you first time

[vserian]

Fourgold

I really feel for you guys in the sandpit, just thats too much flying there. I can never imagine myself touching 90hr mark, the highest I have ever done is 83 and not to mention few years ago I was very close to quit my job here to fly with EK but my wife and kids were not prepared to move, now I can thank them for saving me. Like I said I am sorry I just cant fly that much a month, I hope it gets better for you guys over there.

[Pin Head]

so whats the package then for a FO?

[gottofly]

any idea when SQ LITE will start hiring and their start date?

[bangbounceboeing]

any more details about this operation?

[JMEN]

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