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Old 28th Dec 2010, 11:12
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Sorry, I was out flying for a living!

KLM pilots being there is a well known fact, actually reported on this website also.

I asked about your licence and passport to see where you would be best trying, as all of the places you mentioned in your post you have the added hoops of not being able to legally work there or having their licence without going through additional processes.


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If I will stay in Indonesia, for several years, Lion will be able to a good solution ?Pt6
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It is not easy for you to stay there.. Because your licence can be validated for a max of two years.

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thus in your opinion, any solution in Indonesia, however there are a lot of people who have a different opinion.
Could describe your career?
Do you live in Indonesia?
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No it's not my opinion it's the rules of the DGCA (Indonesia)

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But your are in Indonesia?
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I had been there n a wet lease so I'm well aware of how things work there (or don't)

Work your hardest to get a job in Europe I promise you in the long run you will be better off.

Keep the money in your pocket for now, or you could end up like the guy in the thread you commented on today... Getting one type rating then the airline needing another... Then you will be out of pocket and still needing to pay to get a Job.

I have lost count of the amount of guys I have met that have been promised a job if they just pay for the type, and then are out of work!

I met many of the EJ pilots on Indonesia, so I got the information from them first hand.

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Old 28th Dec 2010, 16:06
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KLM pilots being there is a well known fact, actually reported on this website also.
If it's a well known fact and reported here, then show us the proof. I was talking to a Garuda pilot a few months ago and he categorically said they had no foreign pilots there. I understand since that conversation, Garuda has started hiring foreigners, but cadets for KLM?? I never heard of that 'well known fact' as you call it. I'd be happy to be proven wrong...
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Old 28th Dec 2010, 16:10
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Give me a bit and I will find it... But I know it's a fact as I was chatting to a TRE and a cadet from KLM in DPS.

Look on the NET they are going to take on LOTS of experienced expats, it is upsetting the local pilots as they can't join from say Capt. At Lion to Capt at Garuda, but the expats can and on more money.

Lots of support was given to Garuda to get them off the blacklist and to pass the IOSA audit.

Going back to the expat pilots being there, it was even recently reported in the Jakarta press.

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Old 28th Dec 2010, 16:19
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Your main advise is to wait for?
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Old 28th Dec 2010, 16:22
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An airline than can provide you the type either with bond or other agreement after which you become an employee of the airline. Get a solid experience like that - then if you want to fly in Asia go back as a contract pilot and enjoy the flying along with a tax free salary and nice hotel!

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Old 28th Dec 2010, 16:25
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The search function turns up lots of its for expats at GA

http://www.pprune.org/south-asia-far...l-flights.HTML

http://www.pprune.org/south-asia-far...ng-garuda.html

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Old 28th Dec 2010, 16:33
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thus you advise to do my line training and after will come back with an expat contract?
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Old 28th Dec 2010, 16:35
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No! To get a JOB first get 3 years or so then decide if it is even what you still want to do.

Buying these hours from EJ is bordering on crazy! All the guys I spoke to there had no job, there was even a guy paying to be a Captain there
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Old 28th Dec 2010, 17:43
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But other pilots say who have job!!!!!!!Garuda, Batavia, or other in asia, who must I believe?
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Old 28th Dec 2010, 17:48
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Have a job? Or are paying to fly there or working as a slave.....

I have nothing in this fight, just trying to help you before you make what could be a huge mistake....


You seem to be wearing blinkers, so this is the last I will say on the matter.

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ok, if other peoples have an experience in line training, this will be great!!!
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Old 28th Dec 2010, 18:02
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Thanks for those links PT6A, the first one didn't work for me, and the second makes no mention of Garuda having cadet pilots from KLM, which you stated, 'is a well known fact'.

I'm aware that Garuda are now hiring foreign pilots but doubt very much your claim that they have cadets from KLM. You also suggested that a foreigner can not work for more than 2 years in Indonesia due to government regulation. That is incorrect; my initial contract with an Indonesian airline was 3 years; the thread you linked mentioned 5 years max with a possibility of this being extended by the DGCA.

I appreciate you trying to help with information, but misinformation doesn't help anyone.
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Old 28th Dec 2010, 18:59
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I wouldn't do it but it's a calculated risk. Make sure you have plan B in case you don't get a job after doing your 500 hrs. Don't think it can't happen to you.
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Old 28th Dec 2010, 19:49
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just I want testimony...about line traning
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