Low hour expats (aussies) working in Asia Question
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Massey058's list is a good place to start for any low timers looking for an airline job in Indonesia. When I did my medical in Jakarta there were quite a few youngish foreign pilots doing the same ... infact, at the time, the number of foreign pilots out numbered locals at the medical centre.
And just to put things into perspective, the airline I'm with doesn't only hire low timers from Australia. We have pilots from India, Japan, France, Korea, Malaysia and New Zealand.
And just to put things into perspective, the airline I'm with doesn't only hire low timers from Australia. We have pilots from India, Japan, France, Korea, Malaysia and New Zealand.
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sounds like your talkin about susi air. Yeah maybe you're right.. they probably do take the expats with low hours.Might be worth it for the aussies...its near home.
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Do you fly in this area? You don't seem to have a clue about what's going on around here.
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well i believe you need to be type rated? i dont think they would take u in with low hours and non type rated. And to answer your question, no i dont fly in indonesia.But i have friends who does. 
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I can't speak for other airlines in Indonesia, but the one I'm with pays for our type rating but we're bonded for two years. And yes, we do have a lot of low time expat guys and girls.
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Hi training wheels, I'm very much interested with what you've posted and would welcome any opportunity to fly. Times are tough and securing a flying job isn't as easy. Would you mind PM-ing me details of the airline you're currently flying with? Would be very much appreciated. 
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Hi training wheels, I'm very much interested with what you've posted and would welcome any opportunity to fly. Times are tough and securing a flying job isn't as easy. Would you mind PM-ing me details of the airline you're currently flying with? Would be very much appreciated.
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It must be with Garuda.
Lion will bear you with P2F scheme.
Batavia will give you 4 yrs of contract, with crapped-maintained aircraft
Try your luck, although I would've agree with duyen, if aussies (immigration, government, consulates, or whatever ) don't welcome Asians to work in their continent, why would they welcome you?
Just get your hours and go back home. Don't even think of getting upgraded..
Lion will bear you with P2F scheme.
Batavia will give you 4 yrs of contract, with crapped-maintained aircraft
Try your luck, although I would've agree with duyen, if aussies (immigration, government, consulates, or whatever ) don't welcome Asians to work in their continent, why would they welcome you?
Just get your hours and go back home. Don't even think of getting upgraded..
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Mr.duyentranvan said:
go back to where u belong aussie... the asians dont welcome u
How do you know Mr.duyentranvan?
I can tell you that a large Indonesian airline advertised on the afap.org.au website earlier this year, looking for low time copilots for their airline and it
wasn't a Cessna Caravan job.
If Aussies weren't welcome then the airline wouldn't have advertised.
Please have a think about that one mr.duyentranvan.
go back to where u belong aussie... the asians dont welcome u
How do you know Mr.duyentranvan?
I can tell you that a large Indonesian airline advertised on the afap.org.au website earlier this year, looking for low time copilots for their airline and it
wasn't a Cessna Caravan job.
If Aussies weren't welcome then the airline wouldn't have advertised.
Please have a think about that one mr.duyentranvan.
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go back to where u belong aussie... the asians dont welcome u
go back to where u belong aussie... the asians dont welcome u
If they are not welcome then why are they employed there ?
Some of the locals might not be welcome to them but this does not stop many people wanting to work there.
What are you doing there Mr Duyentranvan (as a foreigner) ?
Don't be such and hypocrite and maybe you should be the one to go back to where you belong (in your own nice words)
You say
And you guys turn up in an asian airline and start to whine about how bad the rostering guys are treating you and shi*s... If you want facts, go and have a look at the fragrant harbour threads.Nearly everyday you guys cry and whine about something
Just because pilots whine and cry does not mean they are not welcome there.
I have had a look at many of your past posts Duyentranvan. Whenever someone asks a genuine question on pprune you always use it as an opportunity to degrade, humiliate and insult people. Some of your replies are completely outrageous and totally unwarrented. Whats your problem mate ? Hope your not like this in real life.'
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Hi 1013, welcome to Asia buddy 
There is some good advice here, don't leave Oz to come to some third world s**thole in Asia, where if the diseases don't kill you the pollution will ( talking 'bout HKG, China ).
We are only here because they need us, a point that is lost on those who have not been walking upright for too long
If they had enough of their own trained up drivers I can assure you we would not be here ( that is law, not racism ).
Unlike the D/Hs that run Australia, around here they look out for their own, if a local can do the job, they can't hire a foreigner ( yes, that is what we are called )
Not going to get into a slanging match at level 3 ICAO english on here but feel free to PM me.
God luk
There is some good advice here, don't leave Oz to come to some third world s**thole in Asia, where if the diseases don't kill you the pollution will ( talking 'bout HKG, China ).
We are only here because they need us, a point that is lost on those who have not been walking upright for too long
If they had enough of their own trained up drivers I can assure you we would not be here ( that is law, not racism ).Unlike the D/Hs that run Australia, around here they look out for their own, if a local can do the job, they can't hire a foreigner ( yes, that is what we are called )
Not going to get into a slanging match at level 3 ICAO english on here but feel free to PM me.
God luk
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Japanam:
A person needs a bucket load of money, to leave their country for the purposes of finding a pilot job in a foreign country, especially for low time pilots.
I don't know any low time pilot that's sent a resume/c.v to an aviation company on the other side of the world and they were given a job.
You have to do your research and get on a flight and the people have to see you. That takes a lot of courage to do, as it's like playing a poker machine. Take a punt.
A person needs a bucket load of money, to leave their country for the purposes of finding a pilot job in a foreign country, especially for low time pilots.
I don't know any low time pilot that's sent a resume/c.v to an aviation company on the other side of the world and they were given a job.
You have to do your research and get on a flight and the people have to see you. That takes a lot of courage to do, as it's like playing a poker machine. Take a punt.
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How do you apply for positions in an Indonesian (or any other asian co for that matter) company is it a matter of sending cvs or is it a case of show up and knock on doors? I do know things do opperate differentley in this part of the world. What kind of hours would a company opperating say a Twotter or metro require for an fo?
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Knock on the door is a good thing to do in that country.
Recently I heard 23 foreigner just joint the Merpati to fly Twin Otter or MA 60 (china made turboprop). Contracted for 2 yrs, got only 1100 Aus$ a month, to gain hours. They're all low timers.
Recently I heard 23 foreigner just joint the Merpati to fly Twin Otter or MA 60 (china made turboprop). Contracted for 2 yrs, got only 1100 Aus$ a month, to gain hours. They're all low timers.
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The MA60 is a 21 tonne, 56 seat turbo prop with an EFIS cockpit and an FMS. It uses PW 127 engines (same as the ATR). The first group of expats have just completed sim training for the type endorsement and now awaiting for base check and line training to commence. Not all are low timers, some have close to 1000 hours TT, some around the 250 TT mark.
As for the pay, the amount quoted above is the basic monthly salary; you also get flight pay as well as allowances when on duty. Those who are also flight instructors for the flight school are already flying and earning a decent monthly wage. But correct, most are here for the experience and not the money although the money is enough to live comfortably in Indonesia, well for me anyway.
As for the pay, the amount quoted above is the basic monthly salary; you also get flight pay as well as allowances when on duty. Those who are also flight instructors for the flight school are already flying and earning a decent monthly wage. But correct, most are here for the experience and not the money although the money is enough to live comfortably in Indonesia, well for me anyway.
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Living in Indonesia
Well, boys and girls,if you want to be a pilot and you want to live in Indonesia or any other S.E.Asian country, you will have to put up with the millions of dumb monkeys, filthy dirty pollution, Continually being sick by the crappy, ****ty, disgusting food carts on the streets and not to mention the millions of prostitutes trying to get into your pants everyday of the week.
Well, if thats not enough, you will be expected to work for nothing as a professional pilot, like the dim-wits at Suzi Air or any other bent airline operator here in S.E.Asia.
Yeah, its just Paradise
Well, if thats not enough, you will be expected to work for nothing as a professional pilot, like the dim-wits at Suzi Air or any other bent airline operator here in S.E.Asia.
Yeah, its just Paradise
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and you want to live in Indonesia or any other S.E.Asian country, you will have to put up with the millions of dumb monkeys, filthy dirty pollution, Continually being sick by the crappy, ****ty, disgusting food carts on the streets and not to mention the millions of prostitutes trying to get into your pants everyday of the week.
You are a grade 1 prat. I live and work with these so called monkeys and some of them are the finest people you will meet. I've never been healthier and I eat regularly off of food carts. As to the millions of prostitutes, I suspect that's the only way would could attract anyone with your attitude.