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in another group in the same fly-by-wire Vs computers debate :
candidate 1 : "i think fly by wire technology and computers are bad because they make pilots lazy and complacent."
candidate 2 : "yes thats a very good point. I totally agree. nowadays we hear about pilots sleeping in cockpits. its all because of reliance on computer."
candidate 3 : " NO computers can do the job very well from 50feet till landing, and in future can reduce the number of pilots in cockpit from 2 to 1 and thus save money for airlines !!!"
candidate 4 :" im sorry I dont agree at all. what if the computer crashes ? then even plane can crash !"
candidate 5 : "yes ur so right. even in flight school once the autopilot was out of service, yet I did one solo cross country for almost 6 hours with my hand. this shows that fly by wire and computers are not really necessary !"
(The above are some actual real conversations in the group discussions)
candidate 1 : "i think fly by wire technology and computers are bad because they make pilots lazy and complacent."
candidate 2 : "yes thats a very good point. I totally agree. nowadays we hear about pilots sleeping in cockpits. its all because of reliance on computer."
candidate 3 : " NO computers can do the job very well from 50feet till landing, and in future can reduce the number of pilots in cockpit from 2 to 1 and thus save money for airlines !!!"
candidate 4 :" im sorry I dont agree at all. what if the computer crashes ? then even plane can crash !"
candidate 5 : "yes ur so right. even in flight school once the autopilot was out of service, yet I did one solo cross country for almost 6 hours with my hand. this shows that fly by wire and computers are not really necessary !"
(The above are some actual real conversations in the group discussions)
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Some may find this familiar.
Probable Cause, ANC09FA001
Full Narrative ANC09FA001
On this one, my group was focused on how 'careless' the pilot was, in fact so focussed that they altogether missed the point that crash was largely due to loss of control owing to incorrect handling of power loss at takeoff. They were kind of stuck on the fact that pilot was not carrying the correction glasses.
Full Narrative NYC99LA128
Probable/Factual Cause NYC99LA128
On this one the group was more focussed on questions
1) Why did the pilot chose Fl210 for cruising (They were told that it was a Cessna, the model was kept away from them)
2) Why did the pilot took flight when auto-pilot was inoperative?
3) Poor flight planning seemed to be consensus view on this accident?
4) Second dominated view was bad judgement?
5) Why file IFR and increase work load, when you know that Auto pilot is not working?
Pilot partial incapacitation, no takers? While a statement from surviving pilot read "My remaining focus was concentrated on controlling the airspeed and keeping the wings level to assure a safe landing...When I descended through a broken ceiling at about 1,000 feet, I know I had to get the aircraft down quickly as my thought processing was diminishing. Luckily I was in farm country and spotted a field in which could safely set down the aircraft without any threat of injuring anyone. I successfully brought the plane down 'gear up'...."
On October 1, 2008, about 1140 Alaska daylight time, a Cessna U206C airplane, N29109, was destroyed following a loss of engine power and collision with a building during takeoff initial climb from Merrill Field, Anchorage, Alaska. The airplane was being operated by the pilot as a visual flight rules (VFR) personal cross-country flight under Title 14, CFR Part 91, when the accident occurred. The commercial pilot and sole passenger received fatal injuries. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed, and a VFR flight plan was filed.
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Full Narrative ANC09FA001
On this one, my group was focused on how 'careless' the pilot was, in fact so focussed that they altogether missed the point that crash was largely due to loss of control owing to incorrect handling of power loss at takeoff. They were kind of stuck on the fact that pilot was not carrying the correction glasses.
On June 3, 1999, at 1745 eastern daylight time, a Cessna T310Q, N1273G, was destroyed during a forced landing in West Laurens, New York. The certificated private pilot was seriously injured. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed for the positioning flight which originated from Waterloo Municipal Airport (ALO), Waterloo, Iowa, at 1349. The flight was operated on an instrument flight rules (IFR) flight plan under 14 CFR part 91. ...
Probable/Factual Cause NYC99LA128
On this one the group was more focussed on questions
1) Why did the pilot chose Fl210 for cruising (They were told that it was a Cessna, the model was kept away from them)
2) Why did the pilot took flight when auto-pilot was inoperative?
3) Poor flight planning seemed to be consensus view on this accident?
4) Second dominated view was bad judgement?
5) Why file IFR and increase work load, when you know that Auto pilot is not working?
Pilot partial incapacitation, no takers? While a statement from surviving pilot read "My remaining focus was concentrated on controlling the airspeed and keeping the wings level to assure a safe landing...When I descended through a broken ceiling at about 1,000 feet, I know I had to get the aircraft down quickly as my thought processing was diminishing. Luckily I was in farm country and spotted a field in which could safely set down the aircraft without any threat of injuring anyone. I successfully brought the plane down 'gear up'...."
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Scenario : A passenger travelling in first class faints. List out the actions you would take.
Immediately a lot of members wanted to issue Pan-Pan or a Mayday call instantly before doing anything else.
other members then opposed saying talking to ATC is not priority, rather ask cabin crew to first check for any medical personell on board and possibly administer first aid/CPR.
the Mayday/Pan pan fans relentlessly argued and finally one bright chap declared : "okay gentlemen ! lets all have a vote and then we can arrive at a concensus !! how many for pan-pan or mayday call .. please raise your hands ? ... how many for cabin crew/first aid ?? ... OK .. done! we first issue May day or pan pan call and then only ask cabin crew to check passenger and first aid if necessary.
one member was silent throughout (and this guy by the way got selected
) .. I'd say remaining silent in the hell house seemed to be safest option !
he did keep nodding his head and used few words like "oh umm yeah .. " ".. umm yes I agree." .."um .. you're right" "hmm thats a good point !"
Immediately a lot of members wanted to issue Pan-Pan or a Mayday call instantly before doing anything else.
other members then opposed saying talking to ATC is not priority, rather ask cabin crew to first check for any medical personell on board and possibly administer first aid/CPR.
the Mayday/Pan pan fans relentlessly argued and finally one bright chap declared : "okay gentlemen ! lets all have a vote and then we can arrive at a concensus !! how many for pan-pan or mayday call .. please raise your hands ? ... how many for cabin crew/first aid ?? ... OK .. done! we first issue May day or pan pan call and then only ask cabin crew to check passenger and first aid if necessary.
one member was silent throughout (and this guy by the way got selected
) .. I'd say remaining silent in the hell house seemed to be safest option !he did keep nodding his head and used few words like "oh umm yeah .. " ".. umm yes I agree." .."um .. you're right" "hmm thats a good point !"
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one member was silent throughout (and this guy by the way got selected 
) .. I'd say remaining silent in the hell house seemed to be safest option !
) .. I'd say remaining silent in the hell house seemed to be safest option !
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Heyy alll, anyone has any clue of the date of interview results' date??
I was told by the interviewers that they ll be out in 7 days or so (my interview ws on the 25th, wednesday)!!
Speculations assumptions and guestimates can be avoided!
I was told by the interviewers that they ll be out in 7 days or so (my interview ws on the 25th, wednesday)!!
Speculations assumptions and guestimates can be avoided!
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to what i remember, on my gd day which btw was the last gd, told us that the result will be out by the end of the month which is today n tomorrow.
but again no body knows the exact date.
i m expecting today, lets see.
but again no body knows the exact date.
i m expecting today, lets see.
which ain't funny. 
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Hey guys, any idea how the Simulator Test is going to be?
Anyone having any idea, please post it here!
Thanks
(P.S. I received the mail at around 10:30am - appeared for the intview on 25th)
Anyone having any idea, please post it here!
Thanks
(P.S. I received the mail at around 10:30am - appeared for the intview on 25th)