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Old 9th Jan 2011, 16:09
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Garuda and Eaglejet pilots

Thanks trolf!
It's good to hear from someone who's actually flying for an Indonesian airline.

I was wondering if you've been in contact with ex-Lionair-Eaglejet P2F pilots? The rumour is that after (or even before) finishing their 12 month contract, they succeed in securing a job at Garuda air.
Could you confirm this?

Have you got any news on the current financial/employment situation at Lionair and Batavia air?

I've been looking to kick-start my aviation career, and since I feel I have no time to waste, the P2F programs look very appealing to me.
I know, I'd rather not, but it I don't think I have the luxury of waiting until thinks improve. (If they ever will in Europe?)

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Old 16th Jan 2011, 06:09
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What's P2F? Pay to Fly or something?

There's one guy here who was with Lionair before. He got into Garuda but he told me that Lionair now makes it difficult for expat pilots to leave for Garuda. Otherwise there will be nobody left to fly the Lionair planes. I don't know the exact story on how they do it, but your employer has to sponsor you to get a working visa. Even if you already have one for a different company. So to prevent your employees from leaving is simply a matter of bribing the right people at the immigration department.

I don't have any info on the financial situation at any airline.

We can start a lengthy discussion about paying to work, but ultimately it's a difficult decision that you have to make yourself, and there are reasons to do it and reasons not to do it.

Good luck!

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Old 16th Jan 2011, 17:19
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Trlof,

Thank you for sharing accurate information with us -I am glad you are enjoying yourself - Indonesia is a fascinating country...........

You made reference to working 6 days a week. How many days a (calendar?) month do you get off each month?.
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Old 16th Jan 2011, 18:57
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You made reference to working 6 days a week. How many days a (calendar?) month do you get off each month?.
I get one day off a week, so 4 or 5 each month.

Here's the deal: pilots employed by Garuda get two days off each week. Contract pilots get one day off, and after three months work, we get two weeks off. In essence you save one day every week to get time off after three months.

Keep in mind though that employees get vacation time on top of their weekly days off, and contract pilots do not.
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Old 16th Jan 2011, 19:31
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Trlof,

Thank you for a quick factual reply. If I was not planning on taking my wife with me it would not be an issue.
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Old 11th Mar 2011, 06:05
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Any news ?
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Old 19th Mar 2011, 10:05
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hello people,
So i tihnk of moving to Indo for Garuda and apply for FO post in 737 NG
But here is the thing I know about Indonesia a little as my borther lived there for some time.
The question is;
Do they have an opportunity like it is in KAL ( 11 days off each month for you to travel around or go to your home base)
This is the main thing for me so if you please help me about it i'd love to hear

And i think the salary is around 5000$. Do they give you free tickets once in a while?
I hope I come there to share the atm there but first of all i need to know this off day thing
thanks
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Old 22nd Mar 2011, 13:26
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Garuda from what I hear pretty good these days!

Should be joining Sky Team and are off EU Blacklist......

So on their 'A Game' at the moment....

Although, as history shows.....have had their fair share of problems!!
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Old 29th Mar 2011, 10:06
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Dont be fooled by by the media hype.

GIA is not for the faint hearted and you should give it some serious thought.

Jakarta is absolutely no place to bring a family.

My advice, look for something closer to home.
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