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info of salary, flight pay, etc
Hi Kris...
may I know the salary at tiger? for capt and fo?
I just wanna compared with Indonesian pilots.
Here, in Indonesia, capt salary average is $ 3000 - $ 3500 per month Take Home Pay, free of tax.
That's for A 320 pilots.
Thanks in advance..
manflex
may I know the salary at tiger? for capt and fo?
I just wanna compared with Indonesian pilots.
Here, in Indonesia, capt salary average is $ 3000 - $ 3500 per month Take Home Pay, free of tax.
That's for A 320 pilots.
Thanks in advance..
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Hi guys, my apologies for side-tracking off topic.
My question is - I'm a CPL holder (not rated on type) whom would like to join Tiger. Should I fork out a sum of $$ to go do a MCC/JOC ? Would that increase my chances of selection with that certification?
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My question is - I'm a CPL holder (not rated on type) whom would like to join Tiger. Should I fork out a sum of $$ to go do a MCC/JOC ? Would that increase my chances of selection with that certification?
Thanks
Keep your money in your pocket, they're not looking for F/Os at the moment unless they can be rapidly upgraded. You would need an ATPL and considerable experience, both total and on type to get a look in.
Head of training would need to be sure of your command potential as they are not looking for career first officers, so too much right seat time in a company which promotes quickly or too many employers with no progression along the way will go against you.
Emirates will look at you with 2500hrs on a modern jet and give you better pay and benefits. Command will be on a wide body but plan on around seven years before you get to sign the aircraft's legal documents.
Tiger will give a quicker upgrade and after two or three years in the left seat you can start applying for direct entry captain jobs else where. However total pay and benefits for an EK f/o are better than a Tiger captains. You choose.
Michael O'Leary has a much higher regard for his employees than the Tiger CEO, even QATAR Airway's Akbar Al Baker would be an improvement from what I'm hearing.
Head of training would need to be sure of your command potential as they are not looking for career first officers, so too much right seat time in a company which promotes quickly or too many employers with no progression along the way will go against you.
Emirates will look at you with 2500hrs on a modern jet and give you better pay and benefits. Command will be on a wide body but plan on around seven years before you get to sign the aircraft's legal documents.
Tiger will give a quicker upgrade and after two or three years in the left seat you can start applying for direct entry captain jobs else where. However total pay and benefits for an EK f/o are better than a Tiger captains. You choose.
Michael O'Leary has a much higher regard for his employees than the Tiger CEO, even QATAR Airway's Akbar Al Baker would be an improvement from what I'm hearing.
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Tiger will give a quicker upgrade and after two or three years in the left seat you can start applying for direct entry captain jobs else where. However total pay and benefits for an EK f/o are better than a Tiger captains. You choose.
well i dont think the bigger carriers (SQ/EK/CX/QR/EY) will look at you with 2-3 years with tiger as a capt for DEC.
new F/O basic with tiger i think is S$3000 with 70$ per hour of flying
cheers,
FK
well i dont think the bigger carriers (SQ/EK/CX/QR/EY) will look at you with 2-3 years with tiger as a capt for DEC.
new F/O basic with tiger i think is S$3000 with 70$ per hour of flying
cheers,
FK
well i dont think the bigger carriers (SQ/EK/CX/QR/EY) will look at you with 2-3 years with tiger as a capt for DEC.
EK - Doubtful, but you never know depending on their requirements
CX - Don't think they take DECs on the pax fleet ?
QR - Yes it has happened
EY - Definately, many ex Tiger staff in there both f/os and A320 DECs. Some of the A320 DECs now in the left seat of the A330.
Vietnam - Definately some in already, many soon joining
Hong Kong Airlines - Definately, several going DEC on A330
seems to me that no one will answer my questions.....hmm..
just wondering why?
just wondering why?
Rent will be about $3000/month, private school fees $1800-2500 per child per month depending on age and school. Worlds 11th most expensive city for expats.
Is Tiger as "bad" as people said?
It isn't a career airline with good benefits and a union like SQ.
Any truth they tried to recruit some Indian pilots but were rejected when heard the pay?
Are they the lowest paid A320 drivers in Asia?
He now refuses to admit he got it wrong and pay the going rate. Flights are being cancelled almost every day, Captains are all just under the flight time limits. New aircraft are arriving later this year and new destinations are being advertised whilst the current schedule can't even be maintained.
Only the older Captains (60+ and not employable elsewhere), and recent upgrades without the experience to move into the same seat at a new company are staying.
Few first officers left who are able to be promoted, even the "career" ones are being looked at just in case.
Talk of Indonesians coming in to plug the gap but even if they all get through the training, which is doubtful given the airsafety record in that country, it still won't be enough.
Emirates will be head hunting in Singapore and KL next month. Many of Tigers F/Os will qualify with 2500hrs on the baby bus. A free apartment, widebody command in 6-7 years, full service airline benefits, party town Dubai with all those flight attendents, driving a nice car and tickets home could prove attractive to some of the guys.
Rumours of a new contract being looked at so apply if interested but do not accept the current deal, tell them to call you back when they've got a sensible offer
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Hi Kris.
Thank you about your info.
And about "plug the gap" with Indonesian pilots it's true.
Tiger wants to take few pilots from Mandala (which is Tiger's sister company).
M
Thank you about your info.
And about "plug the gap" with Indonesian pilots it's true.
Tiger wants to take few pilots from Mandala (which is Tiger's sister company).
M
Tiger are desperate for Captains with three flights canceled tomorrow according to the airport website.
Anyone who is considering applying should not accept the current terms, they are a race to the bottom. Sooner rather than later they will have to pay the going rate to stay in the game and it will work out more expensive than it would have been to have kept their departing crew happy and employed with them.
Awkward questions will soon be asked of those responsible as the cost of all these cancellations hits home, not to mention the bad publicity.
Some in SQ don't want the Tiger contract being used as a bench mark next time our own conditions are being negotiated.
Anyone who is considering applying should not accept the current terms, they are a race to the bottom. Sooner rather than later they will have to pay the going rate to stay in the game and it will work out more expensive than it would have been to have kept their departing crew happy and employed with them.
Awkward questions will soon be asked of those responsible as the cost of all these cancellations hits home, not to mention the bad publicity.
Some in SQ don't want the Tiger contract being used as a bench mark next time our own conditions are being negotiated.
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Originally Posted by krismiler
desperate for Captains with three flights canceled tomorrow according to the airport website
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Tiger CPP
Originally Posted by Macarto
Thats correct, Cadet Pilot Programme.
If they have it, you must be a Singaporean (or may be an Australian) to qualify for the programme.
Also, there are "tons" of Singaporean pilots. Tiger rather train those qualified ones for rating than spending money and time on CPP.
Kris is correct re Tiger. It is now a race to the bottom and the management appear to believe that they can get away with it. They are cancelling a couple of flights every day because they haven't got Captains to fly them (not because they have no passengers). That must be pretty expensive - a lot more expensive than paying their pilots a decent salary and keeping them. One captain told me that even his sim training was being cancelled to operate flights. There are Mandala pilots joining soon but Tiger is desperately short of training captains so I wonder how they'll be trained. At least four trainers have resigned with more to come and of course the Chief Pilot left a few weeks ago. Will they cut corners in training same as they are doing with salaries? Probably.
Don't forget, this is a company that has made profits for the past three years yet has never given their pilots a pay rise while the CEO gives himself a handy 10 million shares in the IPO.
Yet another case of the rich getting richer and the poor having to make do with 3K a month which won't cover your rent in Singapore. Sure go there if you're desperate but don't expect to make a living wage. Use them the same way they'll use you. If you don't need that, then stay away. In any case Jetstar is offering a better deal in Singapore so why go to Tiger when that option is open?
Emirates are here in Singapore early August (and in KL and Hong Kong) and just watch the Tiger and Jetstar guys get snapped up because they have what Emirates want and there are many ex-Tiger and ex-Jetstar guys in Emirates so the sand kaffirs know that the standard is OK.
Only when the likes of Tiger have airplanes parked on the ground for want of drivers will the bosses get sense. Many of us will drink a bevvy or two when that happens to Davis and Co. The sooner the better, so that pilots can again have a decent standard of living for their families in Singapore.
Don't forget, this is a company that has made profits for the past three years yet has never given their pilots a pay rise while the CEO gives himself a handy 10 million shares in the IPO.
Yet another case of the rich getting richer and the poor having to make do with 3K a month which won't cover your rent in Singapore. Sure go there if you're desperate but don't expect to make a living wage. Use them the same way they'll use you. If you don't need that, then stay away. In any case Jetstar is offering a better deal in Singapore so why go to Tiger when that option is open?
Emirates are here in Singapore early August (and in KL and Hong Kong) and just watch the Tiger and Jetstar guys get snapped up because they have what Emirates want and there are many ex-Tiger and ex-Jetstar guys in Emirates so the sand kaffirs know that the standard is OK.
Only when the likes of Tiger have airplanes parked on the ground for want of drivers will the bosses get sense. Many of us will drink a bevvy or two when that happens to Davis and Co. The sooner the better, so that pilots can again have a decent standard of living for their families in Singapore.