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For Security Clearance (SC), if I am not wrong, if you are not the PIC (who knows) and you are accompanied by instructors who has Security Clearance, it will be okay. So if instructor is Indonesian, there is no need for SC, if he is an expat and all his/her paper work done properly (not as Susi Air which really scared me), he/she can fly with those tourist without problem. Anyway, for tourists coming for fun, no one wants to put them in danger, so it is better if they fly with instructor.
Talking bout Susi Air, that is a shame. She is Indonesian although her husband is not. Why she has to do such thing to harm the reputation of her Country.
If only 10% what was said in the blog is right, their AOC should be revoked. I heard and knew a few good guys in DGCA who return "uang terimakasih" when they were given such.
We need more people of such integrity to make our Country strong.
Ok, back to Selaparang, heard that even the Governor (NTB) is not sure who is the owner. Seems API owns the majority, some belongs to the Air Force and some belongs to the City (Mataram). So, very complicated. They have had several meetings on this issue but still cannot decide. May be you have heard, the Governor is a young guy in his late 30's or very early 40's, speak several languages (5 or 6), high tech and really wants to build up NTB where he comes from.
Don't ever dream of API will give up cheap, they do not want to keep it as competitor of BIL. They just want to sell it for commercial development. Also heard that the area is swamp area used for water catchman, so City Authority do not want to change land usage.
aseanaero, thanks for your input. Please share more opinion.
Talking bout Susi Air, that is a shame. She is Indonesian although her husband is not. Why she has to do such thing to harm the reputation of her Country.
If only 10% what was said in the blog is right, their AOC should be revoked. I heard and knew a few good guys in DGCA who return "uang terimakasih" when they were given such. We need more people of such integrity to make our Country strong.Ok, back to Selaparang, heard that even the Governor (NTB) is not sure who is the owner. Seems API owns the majority, some belongs to the Air Force and some belongs to the City (Mataram). So, very complicated. They have had several meetings on this issue but still cannot decide. May be you have heard, the Governor is a young guy in his late 30's or very early 40's, speak several languages (5 or 6), high tech and really wants to build up NTB where he comes from.
Don't ever dream of API will give up cheap, they do not want to keep it as competitor of BIL. They just want to sell it for commercial development. Also heard that the area is swamp area used for water catchman, so City Authority do not want to change land usage.
aseanaero, thanks for your input. Please share more opinion.
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STOLFLYER, that's all very interesting. I have a soft spot for Lombok as it brings back many fond memories of my youth when I used to backpack there all around the island.
Anyway, I've sent you a private message, so please check it at your earliest convenience and look forward to hearing back from you.
Anyway, I've sent you a private message, so please check it at your earliest convenience and look forward to hearing back from you.
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I've been following this thread for some time and it's encouraging to hear that some new developements are in the pipeline to advance and expand aviation activities in Indonesia - it's long overdue.
But I can't help thinking that most of this will come to naught if the various landowners involved, be they AP1, AP2 or TNI-AU etc., will not provide proper facilities and hangarage or permit facilities and hangars to be built.
It sometimes makes me cry when, for example, I go to Halim and see all those beautiful, sophisicated, modern aircraft sitting outside baking in the sun when they should be in a hangar. I really feel for the poor mechanics who must do everything under these conditions.
Perhaps it is because so many Indonesian operators don't have access to a hangar, or simply don't care, that these mechanics sometimes, and here I must emphasise 'sometimes', don't seem to care either. I often cringe when I see the average Indonesian aircraft mechanic's toolbox, some of them would barely permit basic maintenance of a bicycle - and the toolbox is often shared with a friend - but the mechanic is expected to maintain modern aircraft to a high standard of airworthiness.
If these new operators, whoever they may be, aspire to provide a quality service to their clients then they in turn must ensure that their employees have access to quality facilities and equipment to provide such quality. There are no shortcuts.
But I can't help thinking that most of this will come to naught if the various landowners involved, be they AP1, AP2 or TNI-AU etc., will not provide proper facilities and hangarage or permit facilities and hangars to be built.
It sometimes makes me cry when, for example, I go to Halim and see all those beautiful, sophisicated, modern aircraft sitting outside baking in the sun when they should be in a hangar. I really feel for the poor mechanics who must do everything under these conditions.
Perhaps it is because so many Indonesian operators don't have access to a hangar, or simply don't care, that these mechanics sometimes, and here I must emphasise 'sometimes', don't seem to care either. I often cringe when I see the average Indonesian aircraft mechanic's toolbox, some of them would barely permit basic maintenance of a bicycle - and the toolbox is often shared with a friend - but the mechanic is expected to maintain modern aircraft to a high standard of airworthiness.
If these new operators, whoever they may be, aspire to provide a quality service to their clients then they in turn must ensure that their employees have access to quality facilities and equipment to provide such quality. There are no shortcuts.
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I often cringe when I see the average Indonesian aircraft mechanic's toolbox, some of them would barely permit basic maintenance of a bicycle - and the toolbox is often shared with a friend - but the mechanic is expected to maintain modern aircraft to a high standard of airworthiness.
The engineers had worked hard and totally deserved the gifts.
It put a smile on my face also watching this , sometimes tools are more appreciated than cash for those trying to do their job properly
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Does that Australian built F86 (CA27) Sabre still fly at Bandung? I saw it fly once. Was wheeled out of the big hangars, took off zipped around for 20 minutes, landed and was wheeled inside again.
Last time I was there there was also another CA27 parked on the civil side of the field complete with all instruments, armament etc but clearly un airworthy.
I took this pic - this is 2002 probably.
Last time I was there there was also another CA27 parked on the civil side of the field complete with all instruments, armament etc but clearly un airworthy.
I took this pic - this is 2002 probably.
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Hi Chimbu ,
I have about 10 sets of NOS Sabre mains and nose tyres in the warehouse (still with RAAF Roseberry stores tags on them), I'm taking a few sets up to Bandung to give to the tech college , I'll find out.
I have about 10 sets of NOS Sabre mains and nose tyres in the warehouse (still with RAAF Roseberry stores tags on them), I'm taking a few sets up to Bandung to give to the tech college , I'll find out.
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Hi
I hold a Canadian CPL+ME i currently have 238hrs ,i graduated from Harvs Air winnipeg in 2007 it has been more than 2 yrs i couldn find my first flying job ,Canada is tough as i need a work permit and i am not Canadian , can anyone PLS help me or guide me about finding a job in Indonesia i tried Susi air but no reply , i also hold a Masters in Business if this can be of any help pls guide .... i feel so helpless
i thank everyone here for their time and effort who replies and guides me .......
cheers
Rosario
I hold a Canadian CPL+ME i currently have 238hrs ,i graduated from Harvs Air winnipeg in 2007 it has been more than 2 yrs i couldn find my first flying job ,Canada is tough as i need a work permit and i am not Canadian , can anyone PLS help me or guide me about finding a job in Indonesia i tried Susi air but no reply , i also hold a Masters in Business if this can be of any help pls guide .... i feel so helpless
i thank everyone here for their time and effort who replies and guides me .......
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Part 135 AOC
What's the DGCA and other government approval costs for setting up a 135 cargo AOC ?
I have spoken with the DGCA just prior to Idul Fitri and they 'will get back to me'
I've heard figures of up to US$500,000 , does this sound correct ?
I have spoken with the DGCA just prior to Idul Fitri and they 'will get back to me'
I've heard figures of up to US$500,000 , does this sound correct ?
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I heard Sky Aviation has problem with its past management that they need to reapply their 141 school from Ground Zero
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Whatever you do, even if extremely desperate to get some kind of jet time, 737/A320 etc, take my advice and do not work for this outfit.You will be very very sorry.WHY??
There are hundreds of reasons but here are a few.
The DFO is an egotistical jerk, and he will give you a lot of mis-information.
The aircraft are poorly maintained heaps of junk.This even extends to their newish 319/320s.The 737 fleet-I wont even go there.
The terrain and weather can be very very challenging even for experienced, safety conscious pilots, but you will find the BTV pilots pushing the limits all the time.They had several runway excursions last year that I know of.
Training is not something they are good at, and it is avoided if possible.
There is absolutely no standardisation or use of an SOP system.Every Captain uses his own SOPs.The DFO invents his own procedures in the SIM.
Good luck with trying to use english in the cockpit, this is a big issue.CRM? forget it, expect to be yelled at at various times for no understandable rerason.....
I could go on and on.OH expect to get paid a joke salary, and have anything and everything offered to you over the phone interview dishonoured upon arrival in Jakarta.
Having said all that, there are many many very nice people working there, locals I mean, they are all just victims of the same crap you will endure during your "adventure" there.Cheers.......Pete!
There are hundreds of reasons but here are a few.
The DFO is an egotistical jerk, and he will give you a lot of mis-information.
The aircraft are poorly maintained heaps of junk.This even extends to their newish 319/320s.The 737 fleet-I wont even go there.
The terrain and weather can be very very challenging even for experienced, safety conscious pilots, but you will find the BTV pilots pushing the limits all the time.They had several runway excursions last year that I know of.
Training is not something they are good at, and it is avoided if possible.
There is absolutely no standardisation or use of an SOP system.Every Captain uses his own SOPs.The DFO invents his own procedures in the SIM.
Good luck with trying to use english in the cockpit, this is a big issue.CRM? forget it, expect to be yelled at at various times for no understandable rerason.....
I could go on and on.OH expect to get paid a joke salary, and have anything and everything offered to you over the phone interview dishonoured upon arrival in Jakarta.
Having said all that, there are many many very nice people working there, locals I mean, they are all just victims of the same crap you will endure during your "adventure" there.Cheers.......Pete!
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Anyone have info on the Trigana 737-300 hard landing at Wamena a few days ago ?
The grapevine says the aircraft is repairable but its going to be expensive due to the remote location
The grapevine says the aircraft is repairable but its going to be expensive due to the remote location
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Terra Firma wins another one.
Some Asean newspapers are reporting an aircraft crashed in Nabire district of Papua province in the last couple of days killing 5. Any info anybody?
Tempo Interaktif:
Tempointeraktif.com - Police Airplane Crashes in Papua, Three Bodies Found
Sadly it's the second Polisi Udara PZL Skytruck within 12 months to go down by the looks of it.
Tempointeraktif.com - Police Airplane Crashes in Papua, Three Bodies Found
Sadly it's the second Polisi Udara PZL Skytruck within 12 months to go down by the looks of it.
Hi guys,
I'm a low hour (200TT) aussie looking for work. I hold a bare CPL at the moment but am planning to go do a MECIR.
I am trying to gather some information and also opinions about working in Indonesia. If anyone can assist me with information or advice it would be greatly appreciated, whether on here or via private message.
I have read this entire thread and gone through pprunes, google and tried to contact some pilots in Indonesia but without much success.
Any info would be appreciated - also any expats (aussies?) working over there who are or were in similar positions as me - if you could share some info it would be awesome!
Thanks
I'm a low hour (200TT) aussie looking for work. I hold a bare CPL at the moment but am planning to go do a MECIR.
I am trying to gather some information and also opinions about working in Indonesia. If anyone can assist me with information or advice it would be greatly appreciated, whether on here or via private message.
I have read this entire thread and gone through pprunes, google and tried to contact some pilots in Indonesia but without much success.
Any info would be appreciated - also any expats (aussies?) working over there who are or were in similar positions as me - if you could share some info it would be awesome!
Thanks
Anyone have info on the Trigana 737-300 hard landing at Wamena a few days ago ?
Runway 15 is generally always taken by the jets even with tailwinds of up to 20 knots. The LDA for 15 is 1750m. Wamena is at an elevation of 5084 feet.
The larger turbo-props and jets tend to touch down at the 500 foot markers and the 737's especially seem to have full reverse out until they reach the opposite threshold.
The larger turbo-props and jets tend to touch down at the 500 foot markers and the 737's especially seem to have full reverse out until they reach the opposite threshold.