IndiGo Airlines - Sunita the Snake and her dog named Blue
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Ahh, Miss Sunita. She wouldn't meet with me and my friend in Delhi until I called a senior check airmen in IndiGo to sort her out! Then she was all, "yes sir, yes sir"! From what I hear, IndoGo lacks check airmen and this Sim Center in Miami deal is total BS! Only trust worthy airline I saw in India was GoAir, but they don't have a very big operation.
Don't even bother with India... Complete BS... As for the DGCA, they're always on a tea break when you need them! And the foriegn embassies really don't care for your problems... they know India is corrupt and have bigger things to deal with!
Don't even bother with India... Complete BS... As for the DGCA, they're always on a tea break when you need them! And the foriegn embassies really don't care for your problems... they know India is corrupt and have bigger things to deal with!
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Hello folks
Read with lot of interest happenings in Indigo. Got a personal interest.
For all of you intrepid souls.
The management reads PPRuNe. So there are two things you can do.
(1) Go hide or
(2) Use the anonymity of this forums to let vent your angst out and let the management know what you feel.
A word of caution!! Don't ever disclose your identity. You know what the so called PILOT FRIENDLY old man can do.
They are there to screw you. This is the only way you have to fight back.
For the management! Change your ways or else you have an exodus when the situation improves.
Cheers and happy landings
Read with lot of interest happenings in Indigo. Got a personal interest.
For all of you intrepid souls.
The management reads PPRuNe. So there are two things you can do.
(1) Go hide or
(2) Use the anonymity of this forums to let vent your angst out and let the management know what you feel.
A word of caution!! Don't ever disclose your identity. You know what the so called PILOT FRIENDLY old man can do.
They are there to screw you. This is the only way you have to fight back.
For the management! Change your ways or else you have an exodus when the situation improves.
Cheers and happy landings
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Heard that a busload of first officers are due for their ATPL endorsement. Almost 40 at last count i heard. Looks like IndiGo is doing something right.
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So shakti is gone..huh..good for a lot of expats..many of us can now come back...btw any preparation for international ops on? that could mean more fun for some of us
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Sunita the snake and Indigo CAE selection
This is the inside information for all oy you wannabees thinking floodgates have opened with Indigo CAE programme.
The first round of selections was held on 7 Apr and out of 25 candidates only TWO got through the written exam. any guesses who these two are.
No. 1 - a dud guy who just happens to be a nephew of Sunita the snake.
No.2 - son in law of and Ex-FID now with Indigo as TRE.
So any of you wannabees having hopes of getting through CAE selection, you know whom to approach. THE SNAKE OF COURSE as that is the only way apparently to get through this programme.
ALL THE BEST GUYS.
The first round of selections was held on 7 Apr and out of 25 candidates only TWO got through the written exam. any guesses who these two are.
No. 1 - a dud guy who just happens to be a nephew of Sunita the snake.
No.2 - son in law of and Ex-FID now with Indigo as TRE.
So any of you wannabees having hopes of getting through CAE selection, you know whom to approach. THE SNAKE OF COURSE as that is the only way apparently to get through this programme.
ALL THE BEST GUYS.
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The grim story about Indigo..
Hey Guys, just a note on this backlog since it was brought up here..
The intention is not to discourage but to let the public know of the dirty situation indigo has gotten about 120 type rated pilots into.
i am one of those type rated pilots who got in last year 2011 through the indigo exam and have been waiting for more that 9 months on the ground after type rating and there are about 90 pilots who are after my batch waiting after being type rated.. no exaggeration there as we have an forum on FB.
Basically the problem is that they have taken in more that 485 pilots in the past year inclusive of the KF guys,and whilst all this expansion, indigo being the very business minded LCC that it is has decided to take ppl like you me and everyone alike for a ride as all the investment is on us and they dont share any liabilities.
Indigo is an irresponsible Corporate money making airline which views pilots as numbers and not as people, which is clearly reflected by their callous attitude towards all of us..
they do not keep us informed and we havent heard from these idiots for the past 7 months .. do not reply to emails..do not pick our calls..quite a PATHETIC HR and hiring situation headed by that incumbent Capt.Patrick Singh!!
and to top all that they go ahead and advertise their On TIME policy which clearly is lacking in this case..!
Basically they have a commitment with CAE to send X number of students for a type rating and recieve a kick back from CAE..a commission if you will, so what indigo is doing right now is going ahead and sending hapless souls to get type rated irrespective of there being no demand for pilots whatsoever..as they have nothing to loose as we foot the bill via loans from banks who already have started knocking on our doors asking to pay back the money rightfully so ..
they are actually inducting once every 3 months which explains the HUGE backlog waiting and doing nothing .. ive lost abt 15 months of my life since last year waiting fro this heartless, conscious-less airline which simply doesnt care as to what happens to its pilots.
So ppl writing the exam now will only get into the company post mid 2014..!! yes im serious..2014 as these guys show no inclination of hiring.. all of us are mere Tampons in the Managements eyes , stacked on a shelf to plug a leak in the no of pilots if anyone decides to go out to different airlines opening up, a sort of back up if you will..
All our LOIs have been renewed as they couldnt accomodate the hiring .. a case of pathetic planning and paltry execution..!!
if you do have any other airlines you can get into , please do get in immediately.. get your hours there and then join indigo as then they would favour you .. if not then go join the club of unemployed, type rated, anxious, under informed pilots who have been taken for a ride by the Greedy Corporation headed by Capt.Salim Zaheer (VP flight Ops ) who basically doesnt give a **** as the company sweeling with pride is winning awards after awards.
All that is well and good now as these awards are only an indication of the past and present while Indigo is ruining its future by demoralising willing , responsible able pilots who have been caught in this mess.
i know that the management ppl read PPRuNe, so all id like to say is .. go on Indigo , be proud , be arrogant revelling in your short lived success and build a dark future by treating pilots like objects, do not inform us anything and ignore our calls..when you face the same fate as AI ,KF and the rest , then we'll shall see who's going to ignore calls and just not report to work ..
u know what they say about Pride right..that it goes before DOWNFALL!
Hey Guys, just a note on this backlog since it was brought up here..
The intention is not to discourage but to let the public know of the dirty situation indigo has gotten about 120 type rated pilots into.
i am one of those type rated pilots who got in last year 2011 through the indigo exam and have been waiting for more that 9 months on the ground after type rating and there are about 90 pilots who are after my batch waiting after being type rated.. no exaggeration there as we have an forum on FB.
Basically the problem is that they have taken in more that 485 pilots in the past year inclusive of the KF guys,and whilst all this expansion, indigo being the very business minded LCC that it is has decided to take ppl like you me and everyone alike for a ride as all the investment is on us and they dont share any liabilities.
Indigo is an irresponsible Corporate money making airline which views pilots as numbers and not as people, which is clearly reflected by their callous attitude towards all of us..
they do not keep us informed and we havent heard from these idiots for the past 7 months .. do not reply to emails..do not pick our calls..quite a PATHETIC HR and hiring situation headed by that incumbent Capt.Patrick Singh!!
and to top all that they go ahead and advertise their On TIME policy which clearly is lacking in this case..!
Basically they have a commitment with CAE to send X number of students for a type rating and recieve a kick back from CAE..a commission if you will, so what indigo is doing right now is going ahead and sending hapless souls to get type rated irrespective of there being no demand for pilots whatsoever..as they have nothing to loose as we foot the bill via loans from banks who already have started knocking on our doors asking to pay back the money rightfully so ..
they are actually inducting once every 3 months which explains the HUGE backlog waiting and doing nothing .. ive lost abt 15 months of my life since last year waiting fro this heartless, conscious-less airline which simply doesnt care as to what happens to its pilots.
So ppl writing the exam now will only get into the company post mid 2014..!! yes im serious..2014 as these guys show no inclination of hiring.. all of us are mere Tampons in the Managements eyes , stacked on a shelf to plug a leak in the no of pilots if anyone decides to go out to different airlines opening up, a sort of back up if you will..
All our LOIs have been renewed as they couldnt accomodate the hiring .. a case of pathetic planning and paltry execution..!!
if you do have any other airlines you can get into , please do get in immediately.. get your hours there and then join indigo as then they would favour you .. if not then go join the club of unemployed, type rated, anxious, under informed pilots who have been taken for a ride by the Greedy Corporation headed by Capt.Salim Zaheer (VP flight Ops ) who basically doesnt give a **** as the company sweeling with pride is winning awards after awards.
All that is well and good now as these awards are only an indication of the past and present while Indigo is ruining its future by demoralising willing , responsible able pilots who have been caught in this mess.
i know that the management ppl read PPRuNe, so all id like to say is .. go on Indigo , be proud , be arrogant revelling in your short lived success and build a dark future by treating pilots like objects, do not inform us anything and ignore our calls..when you face the same fate as AI ,KF and the rest , then we'll shall see who's going to ignore calls and just not report to work ..
u know what they say about Pride right..that it goes before DOWNFALL!
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Does anyone have information about new aircraft that were inducted into IndiGo's fleet recently? Someone I know has close acquaintances within IndiGo and was told last week that they have received 3 new aircraft. The same person also said that IndiGo keeps 15 pilots per aircraft (I don't quite understand how that calculation works, but that's what he said), so around 45 of the backlogged people have been taken out of the queue.
Is that true?
Is that true?
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New aircrafts are coming and old are going back so it turns out to be the same number...!!!and if I am not wrong then 15 would be too high a number for the 320...I think they should be working with maybe 12 or 13...!!!
About the backlog...well it's not clearing but it's just increasing by the day...I have a friend of mine who is 154 in the waiting list ....so u can judge for yourself..!!
About the backlog...well it's not clearing but it's just increasing by the day...I have a friend of mine who is 154 in the waiting list ....so u can judge for yourself..!!
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IndiGo is definitely not cutting down on the total number of aircraft in the fleet......
Well atleast not according to publicly available information .
Here is a news article about their 50th aircraft delivery
IndiGo gets delivery of its 50th Airbus A-320 aircraft - Economic Times
Newest aircraft registered is VT-IEZ according to the DGCA database on 23rd of July which was this week
That takes the total fleet count to 60 airframes . You can look it up on the DGCA website under the operator name IndiGo ( 4 aircraft registered under this name )
The rest are registered under Interglobe .
IndiGo website shows official fleet count at 57 aircraft . Should be updated soon........
For a low cost carrier 15 Pilots per aircraft seems to be on the higher side ( typical range 10-15 )
If its true that they maintain 15 pilots per airplane then thats good news for the rest of us .
Delivery plan as mentioned above is for 64 aircraft by the end of the year .
Anyone has the roadmap for upgrading existing first officers to captains ?
I believe this should create more vacancies and hence clear the backlog
Well atleast not according to publicly available information .
Here is a news article about their 50th aircraft delivery
IndiGo gets delivery of its 50th Airbus A-320 aircraft - Economic Times
Newest aircraft registered is VT-IEZ according to the DGCA database on 23rd of July which was this week
That takes the total fleet count to 60 airframes . You can look it up on the DGCA website under the operator name IndiGo ( 4 aircraft registered under this name )
The rest are registered under Interglobe .
IndiGo website shows official fleet count at 57 aircraft . Should be updated soon........
For a low cost carrier 15 Pilots per aircraft seems to be on the higher side ( typical range 10-15 )
If its true that they maintain 15 pilots per airplane then thats good news for the rest of us .
Delivery plan as mentioned above is for 64 aircraft by the end of the year .
Anyone has the roadmap for upgrading existing first officers to captains ?
I believe this should create more vacancies and hence clear the backlog
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well 60 a/c * 15 pilots/aircraft = 900 pilots.
the numbers in the company right now are 800 something.
So are you saying that they are understaffed???
one of my friends got inducted in Feb this year ..and is done with his training and also his supy. For the last two months, he is at home and is waiting for his checks for the right seat. He says it's going to take a very long time.
he also says the average flying per month has come down to 50-55 hours per month, which used to be 70-80 earlier.
i think 15 per a/c is too high a number. i don't see why they would require more than 2+2+2 (for the 3 domestic sorties daily) + additional 2 (as stand by) = 8 or max 10 per a/c
the numbers in the company right now are 800 something.
So are you saying that they are understaffed???
one of my friends got inducted in Feb this year ..and is done with his training and also his supy. For the last two months, he is at home and is waiting for his checks for the right seat. He says it's going to take a very long time.
he also says the average flying per month has come down to 50-55 hours per month, which used to be 70-80 earlier.
i think 15 per a/c is too high a number. i don't see why they would require more than 2+2+2 (for the 3 domestic sorties daily) + additional 2 (as stand by) = 8 or max 10 per a/c
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5.5 sets (11 pilots) is what is needed for a domestic LCC like IndiGo...with intl ops perhaps a bit more...there was a time when indigo had less than 5 sets...so obviously the airline is overstaffed! As someone rightly mentioned its due to huge bunch of guys joining from KF in a very short time....experience pilots are not easy to find. IndiGo (or for that matter any airline) cannot NOT hire such experienced guys..reality is that there is a whale of a difference between fresh and experienced guys...unfortunately that's the sad truth....
I know a lot of you guys are upset and want to vent your frustration, but you need to hang in there..it's just a matter of time....hit your FCOMs instead...
IndiGo is the only airline in India that's growing (and making money!).. It's the only airline that has NEVER failed to pay employees on time! the only airline that kept paying bonus as they made profits! they must have done something right...isn't it?? It's not always fate!
Airline is volatile Business.. plans change accordingly...in this bargain, I agree indiGo cadets have suffered temporarily...things will change soon!
Cheers,
I know a lot of you guys are upset and want to vent your frustration, but you need to hang in there..it's just a matter of time....hit your FCOMs instead...
IndiGo is the only airline in India that's growing (and making money!).. It's the only airline that has NEVER failed to pay employees on time! the only airline that kept paying bonus as they made profits! they must have done something right...isn't it?? It's not always fate!
Airline is volatile Business.. plans change accordingly...in this bargain, I agree indiGo cadets have suffered temporarily...things will change soon!
Cheers,
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Three Greens,
You are slightly low because you need to account for vacations, days off, training and sick days. Also Check Airman are usually not able to fly full lines due to their other duties. Since senior captains get more vacation than junior F/O's and since they are older and tend to use more sick time, airlines often also require a higher captain count than F/O's. The exception being if they use F/O's as international relief pilots then they might carry more first officers.
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You are slightly low because you need to account for vacations, days off, training and sick days. Also Check Airman are usually not able to fly full lines due to their other duties. Since senior captains get more vacation than junior F/O's and since they are older and tend to use more sick time, airlines often also require a higher captain count than F/O's. The exception being if they use F/O's as international relief pilots then they might carry more first officers.
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I think what they are trying to say Dexter is that you should chicken out and just shut up.That's one disgusting advice when you have a bank knocking on your door while they make money....like you mentioned.
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I definitely think there is a need for this thread .. cause how does the fraternity get to know of the high handedness of this airline..? i mean half the pilots out there still believe in the fluff of ON time Performance and the lot..which isnt true..knowledge is power VIjay Mallya, if not now.. it will come in handy some day ..so yes this thread is required.