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Old 6th Mar 2009, 10:33
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I remember the Cabin Crew checking all provisions uplifted in BOM right down to counting the number of sugar sachets supplied for a wide body flight. This was to ensure nothing was 'missing'.
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This thread amazes me!

Folk’s generalizations are only a show of one's ignorance!

A little over a year ago a Captain in a U.S. Regional Airline was caught helping himself to an iPod at security. A South African Airlines crew was arrested at Heathrow recently on drug related charges. Sure DOES NOT mean all U.S. Regional pilots are crooks, or South Africans are drug dealers!!

Wouldn't it be great if we keep the country bashing and misplaced patriotism away from these forums! Times are tough, let’s try to help each other out instead.

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Old 6th Mar 2009, 13:35
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A number of years ago an Ansett pilot was caught shoplifting in Japan.

Mustafa Centre also caught one of the bodyguards of Robert Mugabes wife stealing. She was furious about it, hates competition I guess
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I steal the FA's newspapers all the time.
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what a load of horsedung

so all airindia and indian airlines pilots are just a bunch of over fed,spoilt,petty thieves is it?why dont we just take them all out and have them shot at dawn by a bunch of arrogant,ignorant and blinkered guys like you?always remember bud,that there are always two sides to a story,so maybe someone to should give the guy a chance to explain his side before bashing him on the world wide web and causing irreparable damage to his name..you need to get out of the dark ages dude...
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otherside of story

research on shop-lifting is going on in many countries.


Pilot treatment program for shoplifting in eating disorders.

Birmingham CL, Hlynsky J, Russell B, Gritzner S.
Eating Disorder Program, St Paul's Hospital, University of British Columbia, Vancouver, Canada. [email protected]
OBJECTIVE: There are no established treatment programs for shoplifting in eating disorder patients. Our objective was to observe the effect of an established behavioural treatment program in a series of eating disorder patients. METHODS: Patients with eating disorders who shoplift voluntarily took part in an 8-week behavioral treatment program at the Elizabeth Fry Society of Greater Vancouver, British Columbia. They completed assessments at the first session, last session, and at 1 and 6 months post intervention. RESULTS: Six patients enrolled in the study and three patients completed the treatment program. Only one patient reported a decrease in shoplifting frequency. All subjects reported an increase in self-esteem and ability to control shoplifting impulses. DISCUSSION: Our findings suggest that behavioral therapy may be effective in treating shoplifting in eating disorders, but that longer sessions and follow-up may be necessary to show benefit. A randomized control trial with longer-term follow-up is needed to determine whether there is a benefit.


well looking at this i can say body gaurd of Mugabe"s wife and this guy @ mustafa had the same fishy thing @ mustafa restourent and got the urge



when i flew first time to singapore i was briefed by captain
if you want to buy perfume buy from duty free shop,
perfume from mustafa is same as one available in chennai for 100 Rs.
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Old 7th Mar 2009, 07:25
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Shouldn't generalize if one Indian pilot was caught stealing....
Such acts do degrade the company' image as is happening here. But this act is no proof of the company being not a good carrier. I am sure that the Pilots of Air India planes are one of the best with extra-ordinary capabilities.
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Old 7th Mar 2009, 11:43
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Let's get one thing straight.I've not been critical of the carrier but about the individual.I have flown with pilots with both Air India and Indian Airlines and I am proud to say that some of them have been second to none.That does not mean that all of them are great or all of them are bad.I think this would be the case with all the carriers aroung the world.It all boils down to the individual.However an act by one individual goes a long way towards elevating or destroying the reputation of an airline.Both these carriers have been tolerating nonsense for quite some time.If they are serious about their image , it's time they sack this guy , no questions asked.People are watching and if they see this guy go back to his job , they'll wonder what kind of a organization he works for.I called these guys pariahs because they are outcasts in the Indian pilot community as not all crew do this.There is nothing racial about it....read the meaning again my friends..
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I feel sorry for the intended recipient of the perfume. Just imagine how she feels knowing this guy didn't want to spend a cent on her!
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Old 7th Mar 2009, 15:14
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otherside of story

this is the only thread where people believed the media report and passed the judgement also.
most of other threads it was not same level of acceptance about media reporting.
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Old 7th Mar 2009, 15:21
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I feel sorry for the intended recipient of the perfume. Just imagine how she feels knowing this guy didn't want to spend a cent on her!
maybe he had a bad case of B.O and the perfume was for his personal use!
 
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Tricky, doing that. Could attract attention, welcome or otherwise. Otherwise might wake up with a **** **** and 100 rupees in stuffed in ones hand.
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Old 9th Mar 2009, 10:05
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Hello Schumi - Red ,

This link,is rather inappopriate here and I
wonder what you were trying to highlight by this?
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Old 9th Mar 2009, 10:48
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Yes it certainly is off the topic and not of much relevance here.But just to let you know , around 15 - 17 years ago , an Indian Airlines aircraft was hijacked by a single male pax who concealed a weapon in a leg brace/cast and got through security saying that it was part of his brace/cast.He was subsequently killed by the Black Cat commandos.You really can't blame the CISF for doing their job eventhough it may be a bit irritating at times.These days you really cannot take things easy especially with security....
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Old 9th Mar 2009, 17:09
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But i think that there should be some other measures for handicap people.

you can tell the the measures for them.

lets help them

and if you have nothing to help them you can use simple word for addressing them
PHYSICALLY CHALLENGED people

which is more polite and respectful
which is tought in all rural as well as urban schools of India.

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Old 9th Mar 2009, 17:52
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Hello Schumi - Red .

"But do people with leg braces have to strip in order to get the security clearance... I am not here to fight it was wrong or right. The CISF did it's job perfectly. No ques asked. But i think that there should be some other measures for handicap people.

I apologize if i am wasting the space and time and will delete the posts"

You have credited CISF and at the same time asked a question regarding measures! One of the most obvious as given in that article is a disability certificate.
We all will do good by not reacting to sensational journalism and posting it on the site .
waiting for you to delete this post!
Regards
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Old 9th Mar 2009, 18:30
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Well it wil not be an issue if you have the right contacts within the management.

A vey senior Captain ( PJ) got caught for shop lifting in Singapore.But he ended up being the Flight Ops manager and now he flies for Jet Airways.Also his son joined Sri lankan Airlines as well few years ago....

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Old 9th Mar 2009, 18:59
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Kleptomania, is more prevalent in certain regions than others. Oh yes, along with selective amnesia. These disorders are treatable over a period of time but relapses are quite common.

BTW, the Taliban, for example, have a good record of putting these urges (stealing) into remission.

Would be great to see a lot more "left handed" politicians in future, worldwide. Thank God for the divine law of Sharia.
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Old 10th Mar 2009, 02:29
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Mate... i can't understand whats ur point.... How does flying club affects the person.... I don't think that there's any flying school which teaches this.... Shop lifting has nothing to do with urban or rural india.... It's about being self righteous and knowing what is wrong and what is right...

you are right
no airline or flying school teach shoplifting,
but when kids see what others doing they try to experiment, and get stuck like this guy @ mustafa.

one pilot in india used to appear for flight with new hair color every time.
over period of time while night stopping in one perticular hotel he had collected all the bed sheets,towels,lamps etc
then he was given last layover by the company to put back all hotel items,but was not sacked.
some time later this pilot resigned from company.
TODAY HE HAS DISAPPEARED FROM THE AVIATION SCENCE.

when i see some cases like this ,urban and rural education does have impact on indian students going to most urbanised countries and on return they return with extra knowledge instead of what they were supose to aquire, and this extra half cooked skills lands them in all sort of sh*t.
lets see from where this airindia guy return from ? his flying school.

thanks for giving some leads on..... urban & rural

some kind of set patren may emerge when we look in to few cases.
at the same time thousands have gone to urban world for flying and one odd case happenned like this one, it could be related to individuals own state of mind at that perticular time.

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Old 10th Mar 2009, 04:38
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There were manuals and flight documents being stolen from the cockpit of an airliner in india.... It all stopped when the pilots were told that they would be searched after their flight....

It is an individuals act but defames the whole airline/country...... esp. if that airline is facing such charges again and again.....
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