Kingfisher sinking like the Titanic
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good time comes only after seeing bad time
@kingfisher .....started with good time...and is throu bad phase.....good time will come again....
hi all
think what kingfisher gave you
kingfisher gave you job
kingfisher gave you new a/c to fly
kingfisher gave you among the best uniform to be proud of.
kingfisher gave you decent salary
kingfisher is new airline, need to cultivate it now, to wait for the fruits.
donot try to take fruits coming in baskets from kingfisher.
kingfisher has gone throu fuel crisis,bank crisis,global crisis etc.
kingfisher has also gone throu this thread for almost a year now and still flying.
no staff of kingfisher should be a burden on kingfisher.
and no parasite must remain @ kingfisher.
this airline can make or break all,not only the staff of kingfisher.
divided we stand....this job is done by the management but sadly pilots are divided .making management job simple.
need to wake up and fly now....politic at home.
it will fly
hi all
think what kingfisher gave you
kingfisher gave you job
kingfisher gave you new a/c to fly
kingfisher gave you among the best uniform to be proud of.
kingfisher gave you decent salary
kingfisher is new airline, need to cultivate it now, to wait for the fruits.
donot try to take fruits coming in baskets from kingfisher.
kingfisher has gone throu fuel crisis,bank crisis,global crisis etc.
kingfisher has also gone throu this thread for almost a year now and still flying.
no staff of kingfisher should be a burden on kingfisher.
and no parasite must remain @ kingfisher.
this airline can make or break all,not only the staff of kingfisher.
Pilots in different lobbies viz. expat, local, Ex Indian Airlines, Ex Air India, Ex Military etc. etc. and hence no unified voice or culture. A normal thing for startups but pilots need to evolve as an organisation grows and not stick to their previous employers ethos.
need to wake up and fly now....politic at home.
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salary!
to all concerned, salary credited a few hours ago...there's no point predicting the slow death of KF...we all gain if it survives..black or white..local or expat!
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to all concerned, salary credited a few hours ago...there's no point predicting the slow death of KF...we all gain if it survives..black or white..local or expat!
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You are a SAPP. Don't drink anymore of the Kool Aid. 
The truth be known, I and a bunch of my colleagues were gonna pack up and leave our present job to go with KF. We're thanking our lucky stars today that we didn't
The truth be known, I and a bunch of my colleagues were gonna pack up and leave our present job to go with KF. We're thanking our lucky stars today that we didn't
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Thank you ABACUS, SKY DANCER and a few others for their valuable comments about the issues that affect KF. That seems to be in line with what I've heard from those that ventured out to this upstart and burnt their fingers.
They also mentioned about the likes of SAP...(?) who speak very positively on anything but not knowing a thing. How every true, it's called 'Ignorance', yaar?
There's no point in talking of free this and free that, what matters is whether a Company has its priorities right so that its employees are not ditched because of their own excesses and corruption! KF is NOT going anywhere except in their dreams. First pay your dues and then put your house in order. Too many had burnt their fingers to even start believing in the BS that is being dished out by SAP.. who has his/her knickers in a twist.
They also mentioned about the likes of SAP...(?) who speak very positively on anything but not knowing a thing. How every true, it's called 'Ignorance', yaar?
There's no point in talking of free this and free that, what matters is whether a Company has its priorities right so that its employees are not ditched because of their own excesses and corruption! KF is NOT going anywhere except in their dreams. First pay your dues and then put your house in order. Too many had burnt their fingers to even start believing in the BS that is being dished out by SAP.. who has his/her knickers in a twist.
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They also mentioned about the likes of SAP...(?) who speak very positively on anything but not knowing a thing. How every true, it's called 'Ignorance', yaar?
i agree with you and others
but why these affects pilots didnot come out and discuss the problems they faced and..........................
why abacus is not speaking?
stories you heard...or i heard won"t sell.
what matters is whether a Company has its priorities right so that its employees are not ditched because of their own excesses and corruption! KF is NOT going anywhere except in their dreams.
my post was just that rescue these guys...airline must run...so we all get jobs.
abacus already got a job so he care a f++k for others.
where we stand as pilots...tell me...
has anybody gave his experience while dealing kingfisher management?
i wrote kingfisher
not the management.
every fruit basket which comes to you cost 100$
and 200$ goes on company bill....
why you take this fruit and donot say any thing......
same is with hotel n other free frisbies
i think we need to save the airline save the jobs.
i have already said in my post ....pilots have no say...operations have no say 2 kingfisher.
ABACUS was the perfect pilot who is got the job n can save airline+ jobs.
he is missing.
no working pilot will say any thing.
he/she may loose job.
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Dear Saperaa, you got sillier by the day. May be you have been working for this outfit for too long? ABACUS and the rest have given up on you.....don't you get it?
As for the prices of fruits and vegetables and the reason why we didn't decline them when offered - or was that your question? Well, we are talking here of professional Pilots and not street vendors whose job it would be to check on those prices or the Police who would have to check on who is robbing whom.
That's why we are discussing here about the fate of those who believed in the Indian miracle - THAT NEVER CAME!!! Sorry to have disturbed your slumber, please go back to sleep and let the professionals discuss things which are at a higher level.
As for the prices of fruits and vegetables and the reason why we didn't decline them when offered - or was that your question? Well, we are talking here of professional Pilots and not street vendors whose job it would be to check on those prices or the Police who would have to check on who is robbing whom.
That's why we are discussing here about the fate of those who believed in the Indian miracle - THAT NEVER CAME!!! Sorry to have disturbed your slumber, please go back to sleep and let the professionals discuss things which are at a higher level.
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I totally Agree! New News is that KFA has paid all their ATR Dues all over the world and this is confirmed news!
ALl command upgrades in the airline is Via the ATR now
And 25 pilots in whole have put in their resignation to join indigo!
Happy flying all!
ALl command upgrades in the airline is Via the ATR now
And 25 pilots in whole have put in their resignation to join indigo!
Happy flying all!
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There does appear to be some foundation for the above statement although with National holidays in France and Thailand last Friday and tomorrow again being a holiday in Thailand, not possible to confirm.
However, what guarantees are there that the training providers will welcome KFA back?
Once bitten, twice shy!
However, what guarantees are there that the training providers will welcome KFA back?
Once bitten, twice shy!
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I too saaps have had just about enough of your posts and may start using stronger language than i would like to do.
Dagar, at least Saaps wears his heart on his sleeves unlike others who snipe from behind covers and egg on the frontliners who take the first bullets. So go take a Flying f..k at the moon or come up with something original.
Dagar, at least Saaps wears his heart on his sleeves unlike others who snipe from behind covers and egg on the frontliners who take the first bullets. So go take a Flying f..k at the moon or come up with something original.
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abascus
due respect to your experience please PM me about kingfisher since you have worked at kingfisher.
i understand you donot wish to share or save anybody.
it may help me in my future.
i visited India on tourist visa n found perfect for me.
i think if you had taken tourist visa you might have saved burning your fingers.
Personally I left an extremely well paid position, - Yes even better than KF! - to experience flying in a different part of the world, and give my experience to KFA when they needed it. I did not do it just for the money, and like everyone else took the risk. I am a big boy, I can handle
i understand you donot wish to share or save anybody.
it may help me in my future.
i visited India on tourist visa n found perfect for me.
i think if you had taken tourist visa you might have saved burning your fingers.
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You guys seem to be discussing something totally not related to the thread!
Btw KFA is slowly coming back on track... news is that 320 training bills also will be paid slowly over 2 months.
All this stacked up because deccan had a huge debt KFA dint knw about!
Btw KFA is slowly coming back on track... news is that 320 training bills also will be paid slowly over 2 months.
All this stacked up because deccan had a huge debt KFA dint knw about!
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KFA is paying all the debts and money by the loan they secured from different banks (national and intl')... So, if you see it in a different way they still have to pay the money (now to a different party though)... 
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Another good post 'Moderate'.
Saperaa!
There is absolutely no point in continuing a pointless discussion!
Those that manipulate the levers in KFA - I hesitate, with one or two notable exceptions, to call them management - are not interested in the slightest about what the rest of us think!
The airline may survive, it might not. Whether it does or not will not be up to likes of your or I!
Perhaps the apparently 'huge' turnover of the UB Group may see them through, perhaps not!
Only time will tell.
And by the way, even though I do have a job, does NOT mean I don't give a F
K for my ex-colleagues!
That particular sentiment could well be directed much closer to home!
Saperaa!
There is absolutely no point in continuing a pointless discussion!
Those that manipulate the levers in KFA - I hesitate, with one or two notable exceptions, to call them management - are not interested in the slightest about what the rest of us think!
The airline may survive, it might not. Whether it does or not will not be up to likes of your or I!
Perhaps the apparently 'huge' turnover of the UB Group may see them through, perhaps not!
Only time will tell.
And by the way, even though I do have a job, does NOT mean I don't give a F
K for my ex-colleagues!That particular sentiment could well be directed much closer to home!
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Lets wait and see
KFA has debts and liabilities of over INR8500 crores.
Don't for one minute believe the oil bills are paid!!
Has anybody heard why the ATR training bills are being paid??? Are they planning any more international flts with ATRs?
KFA has debts and liabilities of over INR8500 crores.
Don't for one minute believe the oil bills are paid!!
Has anybody heard why the ATR training bills are being paid??? Are they planning any more international flts with ATRs?
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Lets wait and seeKFA has debts and liabilities of over INR8500 crores.
Don't for one minute believe the oil bills are paid!!
Has anybody heard why the ATR training bills are being paid??? Are they planning any more international flts with ATRs?
N4790P
Has anybody heard why the ATR training bills are being paid??? Are they planning any more international flts with ATRs?
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Screrballburlig:What's your problem with YOUR BOSS being in Cannes,try to become at least even a "small" boss and then we will see how you behave.He is rich,he does what he wants with his money,if you're not happy go back home...
ZFT:At your age you should not be complaining,what's your problem about the "suppliers",was is better in your former company?If yes,what are you still doing here??
ZFT:At your age you should not be complaining,what's your problem about the "suppliers",was is better in your former company?If yes,what are you still doing here??