Singapore Airline's employment of Russian and Indian pilots
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The Malay faces you see are Singaporean Malays. Velvet puurr probably does not understand the difference between a Malay Malaysian as apposed to a Chinese Malaysian.
In the Singapore Airlines vs. Mike DeMarco, SIA produced names of pilots (for reason not relevant to this topic).
85 pilots assigned to B747-400 during a given period of time in 1992 to 1995.
15 Malaysians, (all Chinese, 0 Malay)
01 Thai
45 Singaporean,(3 Malay)
13 Australian
09 United Kingdom
01 Norway
01 Yugoslav
No gosip, no tabloid, just facts. Do not make me list their names and staff number.
In the Singapore Airlines vs. Mike DeMarco, SIA produced names of pilots (for reason not relevant to this topic).
85 pilots assigned to B747-400 during a given period of time in 1992 to 1995.
15 Malaysians, (all Chinese, 0 Malay)
01 Thai
45 Singaporean,(3 Malay)
13 Australian
09 United Kingdom
01 Norway
01 Yugoslav
No gosip, no tabloid, just facts. Do not make me list their names and staff number.
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Gladiator: I certainly know the difference between the various races and nationalities in Singapore. Could you please answer the question I asked a few posts ago. Do you still stand by the statement : It is no secret that SIA employs only Chinese Malaysians?
Please review carefully and revert.....and try to avoid the foot with the gunshot.
Please review carefully and revert.....and try to avoid the foot with the gunshot.
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Of the Malaysians employed for placement on the B747-400 in 92 to 95, 87% were Chinese, 13% Indian, 0% Malay.
The point is there are no Malay Malaysians at lease in that period. May Be you can tell us the ratio of Malay Malaysian vs Chinese Malaysians. As I said before I only know of one.
The point is there are no Malay Malaysians at lease in that period. May Be you can tell us the ratio of Malay Malaysian vs Chinese Malaysians. As I said before I only know of one.
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Gladys I'm quite capable of differentiating between racial aub-types. Perhaps though my English is not clear enough for you - I stated that they were European. However, my contention and CheersandBeers is that you made a statement, which was basically inaccurate. Now you quote figures which underline your error (are these supposed to impress us). No amount of wriggling will get you off the hook, you're wrong pure and simple.
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Many articles have appeared in the Straits Times regarding this topic. One story was how the Malaysian cabin crew are better than the Singaporean cabin crew at folding blankets. Another story told to me by an IFS while out station was about a new hire Singaporean cabin crew that had forgotten to bring her passport, her excuse was, "the maid did not pack my passport".
these are not facts, they are gossip.
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Many articles have appeared in the Straits Times regarding this topic. One story was how the Malaysian cabin crew are better than the Singaporean cabin crew at folding blankets. Another story told to me by an IFS while out station was about a new hire Singaporean cabin crew that had forgotten to bring her passport, her excuse was, "the maid did not pack my passport".
these are not facts, they are gossip.
[This message has been edited by VelvetStrokes (edited 08 August 2000).]
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Gladiator: Thank you for your satistics. In the light of them, do you consider the 13% Malaysian Indians who were employed for placement on the B744 as Malaysian Chinese?
For the third time: Could you please answer my query to you. Do you stand by your statement that "Singapore Airlines employs only Malaysian Chinese"?
For the third time: Could you please answer my query to you. Do you stand by your statement that "Singapore Airlines employs only Malaysian Chinese"?
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Velvet puurr get a boyfriend.
Cheersnbeers, from statistics, the ratio of Malay Malaysians as apposed to non-Malay Malaysians are such to safely say 99% are non Malay Malaysians.
Show me statistics that proves otherwise including but not limited to 1992 to 1995.
Remember I have names, staff numbers, date of hire and date of appointments.
Cheersnbeers, from statistics, the ratio of Malay Malaysians as apposed to non-Malay Malaysians are such to safely say 99% are non Malay Malaysians.
Show me statistics that proves otherwise including but not limited to 1992 to 1995.
Remember I have names, staff numbers, date of hire and date of appointments.
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Well Gladiator {Vala) you relly are a bitchy little piece. You were the one who complained about one off the threads turning into a pi55ing competition but it is obvius to all that this is your form of attack. Personal insults, inuendo, and slander to try to discrdit others.
You deserve everything Singapore Airlines gives you. Personally i hope it costs you bucketfulls.
Go Singapore GO!
You deserve everything Singapore Airlines gives you. Personally i hope it costs you bucketfulls.
Go Singapore GO!
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Gladiator: Could you please tell me whether you stand by your original statement.
Malaysia consists basically of Malaysian Malays, Malaysian Chinese, Malaysian Indians and Malaysian Natives (Idegenous) people. By quoting the statistics that you have, IMHO you have:
a. shown that SIA employs not only Malaysian Chinese.
b. shown that you have no clue about Malaysian population make-up
c. shown that you will attempt to avoid answering a straight question with a straight answer.
d. shown that you do not practise what you profess to teach ie loss of face is as much a problem to you as it is to those you are fighting.
e. shwon that you cannot be honest and truthful enough to admit you made a mistake.
Malaysia consists basically of Malaysian Malays, Malaysian Chinese, Malaysian Indians and Malaysian Natives (Idegenous) people. By quoting the statistics that you have, IMHO you have:
a. shown that SIA employs not only Malaysian Chinese.
b. shown that you have no clue about Malaysian population make-up
c. shown that you will attempt to avoid answering a straight question with a straight answer.
d. shown that you do not practise what you profess to teach ie loss of face is as much a problem to you as it is to those you are fighting.
e. shwon that you cannot be honest and truthful enough to admit you made a mistake.
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What is the question? Please ask your question again more directly and more clearly. The statistics are not mine. They are names of pilots provided by SIA.
Would you care to access the entire SIA pilot list. Let us discover the ratio of Malay Malaysians as apposed to Chinese and Indian Malaysians.
Are we on the same page?
Would you care to access the entire SIA pilot list. Let us discover the ratio of Malay Malaysians as apposed to Chinese and Indian Malaysians.
Are we on the same page?
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Gladiator: Please refer to my 3 previous posts for the question. The stats may be SIA's but did you interpret them correctly to say " SIA employs only Malaysian Chinese". I asked you three times and now please for everyone's sake don't feign not knowing what it was.
The stats you presented showed 13% Malaysian Indians were hired surely this fact in itself negates your proposition.
The stats you presented showed 13% Malaysian Indians were hired surely this fact in itself negates your proposition.
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The core of the discussion was the ratio of Chinese Malaysian as apposed to Malay Malaysian. If you so wish I will change it to Chinese Malaysian as apposed to Malay Malaysian and other.
That still does not change the core of the discussion. The ratio is still 87% Chinese, 13% Indian and 0% Malay.
That still does not change the core of the discussion. The ratio is still 87% Chinese, 13% Indian and 0% Malay.
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So what's the relevance of this? How many Iranian Iranees - as opposed to American Iranees - does Alaska Airlines employ?
There were Malay Malaysians employed by SQ until the early 90's, however they volutarily left for a quick Command with MAS. But you already know that, Gladiator.
You also know the reason WHY the Malaysians [and you have stated that there are Malay Singaporeans employed] adopt Singapore citzenship, Gladiator.
So again i ask, what is your point here?
There were Malay Malaysians employed by SQ until the early 90's, however they volutarily left for a quick Command with MAS. But you already know that, Gladiator.
You also know the reason WHY the Malaysians [and you have stated that there are Malay Singaporeans employed] adopt Singapore citzenship, Gladiator.
So again i ask, what is your point here?
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Frankly who gives a sh it about the number of chinese,malays, indians or other indegenous groups that Sq employ. The facts are that Sq take mainly Chinese Malaysian(notice I said fact) and do not take many Malay Malaysian and the pilots that fly on SQ know this. These are not hearsay or rumour but are pure and simple facts. Why some of you may cry? Well,frankly it stinks of racism or a loath for the latter but the facts speak for themselves. There might be a thousand reasons which I won't go into, suffice to say that the Malay Malaysians are not a welcome lot.
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Of the 11 International Human Rights Treaties Singapore has signed - NONE!
Don't waste your breathe on racial and sexual discrimination matters in Singapore as the Courts have yet to progress that far, for all the reasons stated above.
Enough has been said - thread closed.
Don't waste your breathe on racial and sexual discrimination matters in Singapore as the Courts have yet to progress that far, for all the reasons stated above.
Enough has been said - thread closed.