SIA, RBA, MAS
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SIA, RBA, MAS
hi, i know this is a REALLY bad time to ask.
But does anyone have any idea when sponsorships are on again?
I'm Malaysian and a Brunei Resident which qualifies me for MAS and SIA. not RBA though..
i know what you guys are thinking, why the hell fly for SIA when i've heard so much rumours about them?
well, sometimes, some of us are desperate enough
But does anyone have any idea when sponsorships are on again?
I'm Malaysian and a Brunei Resident which qualifies me for MAS and SIA. not RBA though..
i know what you guys are thinking, why the hell fly for SIA when i've heard so much rumours about them?
well, sometimes, some of us are desperate enough
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Sorry to tell you that MAS is in a bad shape now and there are no cadet courses planned for the near future. If you have your CPL IR with Frozen ATPL you may be lucky to get in to AirAsia here as they plan expension in the next few years. But I wouldn't do a full course just to count on that. As with SIA, I'm not sure if they are still recruiting cadets right now but it would be worth it to write in to them and ask.
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Hey, thanks for the reply.
Just as i thought, the answer wouldn't be very good. But it's okay, i guess i'd just have to wait
I;m about to start on my PPL as soon as my next salary comes out, the way i see it, it's gonna take me almost two bloody years to get it
Just as i thought, the answer wouldn't be very good. But it's okay, i guess i'd just have to wait
I;m about to start on my PPL as soon as my next salary comes out, the way i see it, it's gonna take me almost two bloody years to get it
sirsushi,
Would suggest you read the following posts on pprune Steps Of Becoming An Airline Pilot at http://www.pprune.org/cgibin/ultimat...&f=12&t=007399 .
It is just as relevant to you and might save some heart ache and a few (lot) of RM.
Would suggest you read the following posts on pprune Steps Of Becoming An Airline Pilot at http://www.pprune.org/cgibin/ultimat...&f=12&t=007399 .
It is just as relevant to you and might save some heart ache and a few (lot) of RM.
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Hey, thanks for referring the thread. Yeah, i know that things are pretty ****ty at the moment, or for the future, but i can;t let myself down again, i took a diploma in hotel management because it was "normal". Not that i regret it ever taking this course but when i look up and a plane flies over, you know the rest 
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I just read the website of RBA in training page it says they have 8 Bruneians attained command rank and other 28 are in F/O position very interesting is the other technical crew are recruited from Great Britain, Australian and New Zealand, I have not agains this 3 nationalities but what is the reason, while the flops manager is from Britain and already very2 long term in RBA. are this some kind of discrimination or just taken opportunity to save the nice job as expatriate for "just between us only"
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Hey Broer, great to see you online again. I can't seem to find the website you mentioned, all i can find is the official SBA website which does not mention anything about pilots. Please advise
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Broer: Yes RBA is a colonial British Club for pilots just like Cathay Pacific.
I am not saying that all British guys are bad it just that Brunei aviation had been hijacked by the rots of England.
I am not saying that all British guys are bad it just that Brunei aviation had been hijacked by the rots of England.
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FL600, you sound a bit pissed off. Is it that you have been rejected by both RBA and CPA.
The fact that RBA take most of their pilots from New Zealand, Australia and UK, is simply, that is where they can find the best pilots that meet their employment criteria. Licence and experience.
Get a life....
The fact that RBA take most of their pilots from New Zealand, Australia and UK, is simply, that is where they can find the best pilots that meet their employment criteria. Licence and experience.
Get a life....
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Big Kahuna : "The fact that RBA take most of their pilots from New Zealand, Australia and UK, is simply, that is where they can find the best pilots that meet their employment criteria. Licence and experience"
You can go and tell that to the marines.
In the early 60's when Brunei was fighting for independence the Sultanate was against it. There was a rebellion against the old Sultan. The British army was called to quell the rebellion. The old Sultan stepped down but the royalty got 30% and the British got 70% of the oil. The country got nothing much except free of taxes.
So now you know how the present Sultan ended up to be the richest man in the world more than Bill Gates.
After that event the Sultanate never trust its own people. Even the palace bodyguards are manned by the Gurkhas under the British command.
It was no surprise that the airline industries were treated the same.
Your argument about getting the best pilot does not hold water if you don't know (don't want to know, or trying to conceal) the history of the region.
You can go and tell that to the marines.
In the early 60's when Brunei was fighting for independence the Sultanate was against it. There was a rebellion against the old Sultan. The British army was called to quell the rebellion. The old Sultan stepped down but the royalty got 30% and the British got 70% of the oil. The country got nothing much except free of taxes.
So now you know how the present Sultan ended up to be the richest man in the world more than Bill Gates.
After that event the Sultanate never trust its own people. Even the palace bodyguards are manned by the Gurkhas under the British command.
It was no surprise that the airline industries were treated the same.
Your argument about getting the best pilot does not hold water if you don't know (don't want to know, or trying to conceal) the history of the region.
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FL6000,
I think you are confusingfact and fiction. If you had a look a bit more closely at the
real asian airlines, and their performance, you would seee a big difference. In some Countries they have a bloody big
carpet where a hell of a lot gets swept underr.
Would you like to lift up the carpet and compare.
Your history lesson relates to the political environment, and not the aviaation one.
I think you are confusingfact and fiction. If you had a look a bit more closely at the
real asian airlines, and their performance, you would seee a big difference. In some Countries they have a bloody big
carpet where a hell of a lot gets swept underr.
Would you like to lift up the carpet and compare.
Your history lesson relates to the political environment, and not the aviaation one.
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Old history effects the present enviroment.
How come airline such as SIA,MAS,Garuda,Thai Int.,and PAL in this region have their nationals as a majority. It's their respective government policy.
Would you like say South East Asian as a majority in British Airways.
Come, come... western airlines failed too...Just look at Eastern Airline, Ansett,Pan Am, TWA and countless others.
I had known of a few very capable Brunei local pilots with 10 years and 7000 hours (with ATPL) being seconded on our airline by RBA as a F/O for a couple of years and later return to Brunei seconded to a desk job in their civil aviation department.
This is nothing but smack of the old British Club and colonialism.
How come airline such as SIA,MAS,Garuda,Thai Int.,and PAL in this region have their nationals as a majority. It's their respective government policy.
Would you like say South East Asian as a majority in British Airways.
Come, come... western airlines failed too...Just look at Eastern Airline, Ansett,Pan Am, TWA and countless others.
I had known of a few very capable Brunei local pilots with 10 years and 7000 hours (with ATPL) being seconded on our airline by RBA as a F/O for a couple of years and later return to Brunei seconded to a desk job in their civil aviation department.
This is nothing but smack of the old British Club and colonialism.
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For an airline like RBA. It is near impossible for them to be crewed by a majority of locals.
The fact that Brunei's populations is only about 330000 plays a big part in this.
It's all about numbers....
The fact that Brunei's populations is only about 330000 plays a big part in this.
It's all about numbers....
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Big Kahuna like FL600 said not all British and Australian, New Zealand are bad, the post I write are taken from www.bruneiair.com and everybody in Bandar Seri Begawan known the Ops. Manager in RBA he was there for more than 20 yrs and for purpose of transfer knowledge, you should know if the result only 8 commanders, while if they need pilot they only want "people among us only" are they hidding something in RBA or playing Saint Nicolaus?
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If you have a job don't you qualify for credit? Interest rates are low. You could get a loan for self sponsored flight training. Many moons ago I had applied for several credit cards and charged some of my flight training costs, making minimum monthly payments on the cards. It really worked and saved me a lot of time. In the USA it's called: "Paying with plastic."
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I think I should jump onboard this thread after hearing all the 'nice' things to say about Brunei.
I was born and orginally from Brunei. However, being of a Chinese descent, the government has flat out refused to offer citizenship. And this goes for my father and grandparents' generation as well.
Instead a Pink ID card and a "stateless" or should I say useless passport were issued.
It's hysterically funny now that I go back and enquire about their cadet program, I was told I am a foreigner and to go away! Talk about professionalism, folks! This after I have done some commercial flying in Canada too.
Hearing from my friends who have worked there, it's really a sad and frustrating place to be if you were a local. The root of the problem comes with the government itself.
Am I bitter? Sure not as much as before. Then again, who wouldn't be? Being born in a country where no citizenship was offered to you and now not being able to work there! Now the government wonders why all the educated individuals with credentials left the country?
I was born and orginally from Brunei. However, being of a Chinese descent, the government has flat out refused to offer citizenship. And this goes for my father and grandparents' generation as well.
Instead a Pink ID card and a "stateless" or should I say useless passport were issued.
It's hysterically funny now that I go back and enquire about their cadet program, I was told I am a foreigner and to go away! Talk about professionalism, folks! This after I have done some commercial flying in Canada too.
Hearing from my friends who have worked there, it's really a sad and frustrating place to be if you were a local. The root of the problem comes with the government itself.
Am I bitter? Sure not as much as before. Then again, who wouldn't be? Being born in a country where no citizenship was offered to you and now not being able to work there! Now the government wonders why all the educated individuals with credentials left the country?
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Volmet, I do feel sorry for you that Brunei does not recognize you as a citizen.
But if you were really serious and interested in becoming a pilot, you would go and pay for the training yourself. Meet the requirements and apply for a job as a direct entry FO.
Life is what you make it....
But if you were really serious and interested in becoming a pilot, you would go and pay for the training yourself. Meet the requirements and apply for a job as a direct entry FO.
Life is what you make it....
