Korean Air Interview Profile
Are they really short on crews?
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With the depreciating greenback, it's far cheaper for them to employ foreigners. For the locals their T&Cs involves lots of down time off days and extra classese like English proficiency, safety seminars, national service refreshers etc. Also, paying big $s for pilots' kids studying in prestigious Korean & foreign varsities. My korean F/Os tell me that the company also find their pilots from Jeju cadet school are rebellious, prone to staging strikes and sit outs. So KAL is contend to wait for the military to release pilots as these are very compliant to company demands. However the numbers from the military does not meet their requirements, so their stop gap measure.......foreign suckers coming in as f/os. Seems that these foreign f/os hope to be upgraded, after hearing of upgrades of foreign B737 skippers to the B744 two or three years ago.
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Suckers?
I think those "suckers" are living in their home countries about 12 days a month or more and pulling in about 9400 usd (with Perdiem) a month. Not bad for a bunch of "suckers". 
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I don't know if I called them suckers, but the expat 737 FOs aren't making 9000 a month, they're making 6x00 a month, only have 9 hard days off, 3 "soft" (commuting) days, and there is no way they're gonna have a chance to upgrade or transition into anything bigger/better becuase the KAL union won't allow it. There's one thing bringing in ex-pat captains with a lot of command experience in type, but Korean Air won't waste the time and effort upgrading and/or transitioning expat FOs. If they did that, most would leave after a couple years having the type and a couple thousand hours command under their belt and not finish the contract, and Korean Air ain't that dumb. So if growth and/or upward movement is something you value, then Korean Air is not where you want to go. If you're furloughed and just need a job though, then this is better than nothing.
And if any of the contract agencies say there is a potential for upgrade and/or transition, they are just blowing smoke up your APU becuase they want you to sign with them. Ain't gonna happen. Korean Air's union actually has some teeth, unlike the pathetic attempt of a union Asiana has.
And if any of the contract agencies say there is a potential for upgrade and/or transition, they are just blowing smoke up your APU becuase they want you to sign with them. Ain't gonna happen. Korean Air's union actually has some teeth, unlike the pathetic attempt of a union Asiana has.
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If they did that, most would leave after a couple years having the type and a couple thousand hours command under their belt and not finish the contract, and Korean Air ain't that dumb
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KAL training
A friend of mine just finished his interview 5 days ago...5/27/08...He said it was very respectful and he was impressed. I spoke with him about all these posts on this thread and asked what he thought. He spoke to 3 different Captains all Expats and they said a bunch of Delta guys helped change things drastically over the last 3 to 4 months. I just received my invitation to interview and was informed that once in training Alteon in Seoul provides it all. These guys are American's or Foreigner's so has the intimidation training changed?? Does anyone have very recent intel? thanks 
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They are hiring a bunch of B737NG Captains, does anyone know if it is as bad as the B777 program? I am looking at doing the July interview and want to know what to expect at the interview. Is the Sim ride in the 737 or what ever aircraft is available? The contract is with CCL, do they give you the sim profile? I already have the type, so no loss.
Thanks for the help in advance
Thanks for the help in advance
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sim
My Buddy got a 28 page packet and was paired up with another interviewed guy, an old Aloha friend. You get V1 cuts single engine app to miss, rejected TO with the engine failing, not on fire. 2 engine 30 Knot Xwind landing and a flap problem. This was split between 2 guys though. The instructors weren't as concerned about the flying as they were about the procedures, which you use your own from your last company. He said it was positive. Might see you there..
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KAL interview
ukipilot,
look up the korean interview thread, you will find lot's of information there.
As I know the 737 guys just did fine here, and CCL provides you with the sim profile too, so so can prepare.
SIM is pretty straightforward, on 737-800.
Good luck,
Tom 744
look up the korean interview thread, you will find lot's of information there.
As I know the 737 guys just did fine here, and CCL provides you with the sim profile too, so so can prepare.
SIM is pretty straightforward, on 737-800.
Good luck,
Tom 744
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Straight forward
Getting thru the interview and SIM is straight forward, the medical is a little thorough for some people who are not used to the NASA-test in GMP.......
The training is still the biggest Lottery you have. If you have a Rebel-IP then you can relay on it, if he is from the Old Guard.... ?!?! what is then Tom? He won´t pass you, you can fly like a Eagle and a Condor together but if the Callout is not where it should be you are toast and you know that.
Fly safe and land happy
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The training is still the biggest Lottery you have. If you have a Rebel-IP then you can relay on it, if he is from the Old Guard.... ?!?! what is then Tom? He won´t pass you, you can fly like a Eagle and a Condor together but if the Callout is not where it should be you are toast and you know that.
Fly safe and land happy
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how long did u have to wait?
For those of you who went for the job as Captain with Korean Air how long did you have to wait after the SIM/med/interview to hear from them again on whether you got the job or not?
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Thanks
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Kal ****
Guys n Gals -
NOTE:
1. There will NEVER be a Foreign GAL in the left seat in KAL land.
2. Divorce rate in Korea is 60%
3. The attitude some have experienced and noted on this thread ref
'arseho!e' IP/LCPs is the same attitude that is dished out to Korean
ladies.
4. How many other airlines in the world have parked (10-11?) acft 'off rwy'?
5. Korean Society is 5000yrs old. They think all other societies are inferior
to their level of 'perfection'
6. If a KAL stewardess is seen 'socialising' with foreign crew - she is
TERMINATED.
7. Even if KAL paid US$19,400/mth, I would NOT fly for them!!!!!!!!!
I would rather drive a rubbish truck - at least the trash is honest.
NOTE:
1. There will NEVER be a Foreign GAL in the left seat in KAL land.
2. Divorce rate in Korea is 60%
3. The attitude some have experienced and noted on this thread ref
'arseho!e' IP/LCPs is the same attitude that is dished out to Korean
ladies.
4. How many other airlines in the world have parked (10-11?) acft 'off rwy'?
5. Korean Society is 5000yrs old. They think all other societies are inferior
to their level of 'perfection'
6. If a KAL stewardess is seen 'socialising' with foreign crew - she is
TERMINATED.
7. Even if KAL paid US$19,400/mth, I would NOT fly for them!!!!!!!!!
I would rather drive a rubbish truck - at least the trash is honest.
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Jack....good on you! The KAL **** may really stink for the likes of you, but there are very many who love that cesspool besides waxing lyrical on their highly appreciated 9 continuous days off and deadheading in 1st class. The former bush drivers and people from " fly by night, hide by day " outfits never had it so good.......wow first class service to paxing crew! It's heaven, until the day they arrive at the pearly gates for an audience with good old Peter after becoming a KAL statistic whilst happily paxing or as augment crew! There may be some fairly rich widows though!
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Thanks for all the information. I have just found out that I can take a 2 year leave of absence so I updated my info with PARC and sent my stuff to Rishworth. I got a notice that I am qualified for the 777 non typed Captain contract. I am current on the 757, typed on the 767 with 3100 hours capt on the 757, 7200 hours capt on the A 320 series and 21000 total time.
It sounds like I may be marginally qualified in the eyes of some Korean LCPs. I was actually hired at Asiana back in 1995 on the 737 as capt but I did not take the contract due to my company cancelling LOAs. I am familiar with the need for learning the profiles by rote, it sounds like little has changed in 14 years, but I would still like to do something different, particulaly since my airline sucks right now and I would like to bank some cash and a new type for a couple of years.
Does anyone know what the actual T and Cs are? I would like a little more information before I decide to commit to going through this process.
It sounds like I may be marginally qualified in the eyes of some Korean LCPs. I was actually hired at Asiana back in 1995 on the 737 as capt but I did not take the contract due to my company cancelling LOAs. I am familiar with the need for learning the profiles by rote, it sounds like little has changed in 14 years, but I would still like to do something different, particulaly since my airline sucks right now and I would like to bank some cash and a new type for a couple of years.
Does anyone know what the actual T and Cs are? I would like a little more information before I decide to commit to going through this process.
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KAL T & C's
cactusbusdrvr,
look up www.cclaviation.com or www.gapaviation.com .
There you will find actual T & C's , and I would highly recommend one of these 2 agencies if you consider KAL.
Concerning the training BS I can tell more when the actual course is through; but if you can leave the door open to your current job I would say you are safe.
Good luck
look up www.cclaviation.com or www.gapaviation.com .
There you will find actual T & C's , and I would highly recommend one of these 2 agencies if you consider KAL.
Concerning the training BS I can tell more when the actual course is through; but if you can leave the door open to your current job I would say you are safe.
Good luck