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Under NO circumstances should you ever consider going into HMA.
The delays there are mind boggling; currently 11 months for the last batch and going up. Not to mention the living conditions and new rules imposed by the current management.
Do yourself a favour and stay away. You won't regret it
The delays there are mind boggling; currently 11 months for the last batch and going up. Not to mention the living conditions and new rules imposed by the current management.
Do yourself a favour and stay away. You won't regret it
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JAA Training in Thailand ?
Hi ! I am (hopefully) about to finish my CPL Theory exams this month in the UK. I live in KL. Does anyone know of any Flight Schools in South East Asia that can do the necessary training and exam for the issued of a JAA Commercial Licence ? I checked with Melaka (MFA) - but they cannot offer this mainly due to the high cost of licensing and 6 monthly inspections etc.
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hi all..im quite new here.after reading all the scary post abt Malaysian flight training im not sure where to go.MFA definitely seems out for me.HMA after all the money issues im sure its out also.left KLIFA,GGIFA,APFT and Integrated.btw im a malaysian,holding Oz PPL.i flew in senai with Elite flying club..if money is no object,i would take JAA licence. 
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In South East Asia none a school is currently JAR, however IAC-NPU (NE Thailand) is doing a JAR fully compliant syllabus. To be fully JAR, an examination Centre must be set up in South East Asia and a twining has to be done with an european school.
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So what type of license do you end up getting? Thai CPL/IR?
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You get University certificates that you have successfully pass through JAR compliant examinations and training, a MCC certificate, a JOT certificate (equivalent to the Airbus ELT) and an ICAO CPL/IR delivered by Thai DCA.
It is not the current objective of this school to compete on the European market, enough to do in the region....
It is not the current objective of this school to compete on the European market, enough to do in the region....
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Definitively IAC is better because it is staffed by most of the best Instructors leaving Malaysia and fed up by the poor Malaysian standards.
Our syllabus is a FULLY modular JAR compliant (Ground and Flight). Syllabus as per JAR FCL1. Training, procedures manuals and quality system fulfilling JAA regulations at 99,99%..... First of its kind in all South East Asia....
Our syllabus is a FULLY modular JAR compliant (Ground and Flight). Syllabus as per JAR FCL1. Training, procedures manuals and quality system fulfilling JAA regulations at 99,99%..... First of its kind in all South East Asia....
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Yes but you dont have a JAA Licence Matey. First off who wants to come to Thailand for a Licence that boasts it Complies with JAR FCL but when you go back to Euro Land is worthless and that is a fact matey you would still need to undertake conversion work, fact also. If you want a JAA Lic stay in a JAA state Fact also.
But your graduates do not get a JAA license, correct? Just a Thai CPL/IR? So as squarecrow mentions above, after having gone through your course, pilots will still need to to a conversion back in their home countries, unless of course they're Thai nationals and wish to fly in Thailand?
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JAA Licence
If you want a JAA Licence. Yes a FULL JAA Licence come to WA Aviation College at Perth In Western Australia.
http://www.waaviationcollege.com.au/index.asp
Do both Modular and Integrated Courses.
http://www.waaviationcollege.com.au/index.asp
Do both Modular and Integrated Courses.
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1st of all i really dont know why some ppl want to get the JAA license?..
i know it easy to convert but i think it not worth it..
because u not a citizen in JAAland..
and the JAA course in Western Australia Aviation College probably bout aud 140k and u need to do ur 1st medical checkup in JAAland...
and that also doesnt confirm that u will get a job after u get the license..
it still the license no matter which country issue the license..
because u still a pilot..
i know it easy to convert but i think it not worth it..
because u not a citizen in JAAland..
and the JAA course in Western Australia Aviation College probably bout aud 140k and u need to do ur 1st medical checkup in JAAland...
and that also doesnt confirm that u will get a job after u get the license..
it still the license no matter which country issue the license..
because u still a pilot..
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Hello,
HMA's a pretty good school i think, except that it'll take you more than 1 year to get your first flying hour.
Not to mention that instructors don't clear you for your first solo, its when you land, they clear you, just so that if anything happens, they're not in trouble.
As of MFA, they've got some real good flying instructors and all CFIs are all near perfect. The only downside of MFA is the studying condition and hostel facilities, but hey, the new building is coming up in June / July 08 the last time i heard. But, as everyone has been saying, ground school in MFA has gone to dogs. The good instructors from india has gone to other flying schools (some in ipoh and others in thailand). About 50% of the new ground instructors are good, the rest are rubbish. However, no complains about flying from that school so far.
Now let's talk about the new school, KLIFA. Which is partly based in Nilai (MIAT - Malaysian Institute of Aviation Technology), they're leasing classrooms from MIAT. After some ground school there, students are sent to Australia and when they come back, with 165 hrs of single engine, they sit for their DCAT and CA6, oh by the way, they hardly have any instructors and they're currently leasing 1 PA34 (seneca 4) from HMA which has become unservicable. They've only got 1 twin and 1 single or around that region, and has promises to buy more aircrafts. We all know how long that'll take.
Regarding other schools, i don't think there's a complaint about ground school in Ipoh, however they've only 2 TB10s and so many flying student are queing up for those aircraft so that they can do their NAV flights, because the Eagles only have 3 hours endurance.
Regarding other schools, I've not much knowledge so there's no point in speculating.
In a nut shell, I've no idea what is going on in HMA, and ground instructors in MFA will eventually become more competent in their jobs, (Come on, if you're asked to do a job you're not familiar with, it'll take time for you to familiarize yourself no?) and besides, every admin in every institute will pressure departments who're not performing, no? As for KLIFA, give it at least a few years, and check back about their progress. Its still new, and perhaps its too young.
Just my 2 cents, Happy Landings
* Information above may be invalid as time progress
HMA's a pretty good school i think, except that it'll take you more than 1 year to get your first flying hour.
Not to mention that instructors don't clear you for your first solo, its when you land, they clear you, just so that if anything happens, they're not in trouble.
As of MFA, they've got some real good flying instructors and all CFIs are all near perfect. The only downside of MFA is the studying condition and hostel facilities, but hey, the new building is coming up in June / July 08 the last time i heard. But, as everyone has been saying, ground school in MFA has gone to dogs. The good instructors from india has gone to other flying schools (some in ipoh and others in thailand). About 50% of the new ground instructors are good, the rest are rubbish. However, no complains about flying from that school so far.
Now let's talk about the new school, KLIFA. Which is partly based in Nilai (MIAT - Malaysian Institute of Aviation Technology), they're leasing classrooms from MIAT. After some ground school there, students are sent to Australia and when they come back, with 165 hrs of single engine, they sit for their DCAT and CA6, oh by the way, they hardly have any instructors and they're currently leasing 1 PA34 (seneca 4) from HMA which has become unservicable. They've only got 1 twin and 1 single or around that region, and has promises to buy more aircrafts. We all know how long that'll take.
Regarding other schools, i don't think there's a complaint about ground school in Ipoh, however they've only 2 TB10s and so many flying student are queing up for those aircraft so that they can do their NAV flights, because the Eagles only have 3 hours endurance.
Regarding other schools, I've not much knowledge so there's no point in speculating.
In a nut shell, I've no idea what is going on in HMA, and ground instructors in MFA will eventually become more competent in their jobs, (Come on, if you're asked to do a job you're not familiar with, it'll take time for you to familiarize yourself no?) and besides, every admin in every institute will pressure departments who're not performing, no? As for KLIFA, give it at least a few years, and check back about their progress. Its still new, and perhaps its too young.
Just my 2 cents, Happy Landings
* Information above may be invalid as time progress
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Looks like you have no idea at all what's going on at all.
What do you mean the instructors only clear you when you land? They have to authorize your first solo BEFORE you take off. The fact that you're taking off means you're cleared for your first solo.
Oh, FYI, HMA never had any Senecas.
Please Please Please avoid HMA at all costs. I was 11 months overdue PLUS they're charging me an additional RM6K 'fuel surcharge' for the increase in price of JET-A1 when they hedged the price of fuel to RM3.90 for AVGAS. Yes, they're charging us for AVGAS when we use JET-A1 for training. Plus the additional amount for the JET-A1 price increase.
Rippoff.
What do you mean the instructors only clear you when you land? They have to authorize your first solo BEFORE you take off. The fact that you're taking off means you're cleared for your first solo.
Oh, FYI, HMA never had any Senecas.
Please Please Please avoid HMA at all costs. I was 11 months overdue PLUS they're charging me an additional RM6K 'fuel surcharge' for the increase in price of JET-A1 when they hedged the price of fuel to RM3.90 for AVGAS. Yes, they're charging us for AVGAS when we use JET-A1 for training. Plus the additional amount for the JET-A1 price increase.
Rippoff.
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there's no means for me to defend myself but I'm just saying what students in those schools tells me. Of course I double check with others.
Then again, its still difficult to believe but.. what can i say?
*Edit : And as for the seneca, this was told to me by a student who was seeking twin engine conversion in KLIFA, meaning, the management told him that the twin was leased by HM.
I am aware by the fact that they're using Diamonds.
Then again, its still difficult to believe but.. what can i say?
*Edit : And as for the seneca, this was told to me by a student who was seeking twin engine conversion in KLIFA, meaning, the management told him that the twin was leased by HM.
I am aware by the fact that they're using Diamonds.
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Well, I was from the school mentioned and no, we never owned any Senecas let alone leased them.
Probably your friend heard wrong - If I'm not mistaken the only HM product at KLIFA is Major Radzi
Probably your friend heard wrong - If I'm not mistaken the only HM product at KLIFA is Major Radzi