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I read this in the Philippine Star newspaper, i think it answers a lot of questions. According to sources 40 more sponsorship places are available with 50% of the course cost covered by Cebu Pacific.
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i read CIA's website again, i stand corrected on the simulator. Gokongwei owns it and CIA helps in maintaining it & training the pilots who will use it.
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i read CIA's website again, i stand corrected on the simulator. Gokongwei owns it and CIA helps in maintaining it & training the pilots who will use it.
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Have been told they are now recruiting for the next course starting August 06th. I was advised that if you pass all the criteria you can get 50% sponsorship from CebuPac. Good luck to you all. Check the advert again in my previous post.
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yup, i got a sponsorship. good luck with your application. if you're absolutely certain of being accepted in CIA, i recommend that you accomplish the ATO medical clearance as soon as possible... it's advisable to take your blood chemistry and ecg stress test elsewhere. the ATO doctor is in every weekdays from 10-12 for the checkup.
yup, i got a sponsorship. good luck with your application. if you're absolutely certain of being accepted in CIA, i recommend that you accomplish the ATO medical clearance as soon as possible... it's advisable to take your blood chemistry and ecg stress test elsewhere. the ATO doctor is in every weekdays from 10-12 for the checkup.
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I'm really interested about this organisation. On their brochure, there's a job guarentee after you complete A320 TR and base training.
People say it's too good to be true. what do you think?
People say it's too good to be true. what do you think?
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Terrain Terrain... Pull Up!!!
with 200 hours + 320 type rating + Clark Training = a very big disaster!! The only reason a company would hire a pilot with that low experience is coz they cost less. Lets face it.... it isn't because it is safer! It isn't because they are the nicest people in the world!!! Its because it costs less. I'm not saying the best pilot trainee couldn't do it... i'm saying that the majority of pilot trainees with that kind of experience would be a liability to the safety of the flight. At best the FO would be a passenger... being so far behind the aircraft that it would be over before it started. There are reasons for minimum flight time.
Nothing is guarenteed in the world, especially when it comes to Aviation. So when reading a brochure on the Clark institute... take it with grain of salt.. examine your options carefully coz as the saying goes... if it sounds too good to be true, IT USUALLY IS!!
Nothing is guarenteed in the world, especially when it comes to Aviation. So when reading a brochure on the Clark institute... take it with grain of salt.. examine your options carefully coz as the saying goes... if it sounds too good to be true, IT USUALLY IS!!
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lively debate is occuring on the Pilot Wannabe forum under the topic of "MPL - Is it Mickey Mouse?".
I started the debate going and whilst i've received a lot of constructive comments, bot for and against, it's still something I'm weighing up.
I started the debate going and whilst i've received a lot of constructive comments, bot for and against, it's still something I'm weighing up.
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with the ATO medicals, you can do the treadmill stress test and blood chemistry (ask the ATO clinic what you'll specifically need) elsewhere... everything else must be completed in their clinic. you'd have to wait one week for the results of the drug test and the treadmill stress test so it should take a week if everything else goes smoothly as planned.
with the ATO medicals, you can do the treadmill stress test and blood chemistry (ask the ATO clinic what you'll specifically need) elsewhere... everything else must be completed in their clinic. you'd have to wait one week for the results of the drug test and the treadmill stress test so it should take a week if everything else goes smoothly as planned.
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i believe i've already started a thread on this topic
requesting moderator to merge this thread with the link above.
@lee_apromise - i'll send you a pm about it.
as i've mentioned in other threads, i'm not in a position to defend or critique the MPL since i've only been in ground school at Clark for a couple of months and our first batch of cadets are still waiting to fly our school's light aircraft. Cebu Pacific Airlines truly believes in the potential of the MPL because it's in their business interests. pioneering? let's just wait how my upper batch colleagues will do when they take to the skies early next year.
we're less than 80 cadets here and growing each month... there are the foreigners, the loyal Cebu Pac employees that qualified for the sponsorship, and those whose benefactors could afford the tuition (including the would-be 2nd generation pilots, don't ask why some of us didn't go to PAL Av School instead) who are also sponosored by Cebu Pacific.
those who wish to castigate Clark Aviation and the MPL may do so in the thread provided by Mach086.
Cheers!
requesting moderator to merge this thread with the link above.
@lee_apromise - i'll send you a pm about it.
as i've mentioned in other threads, i'm not in a position to defend or critique the MPL since i've only been in ground school at Clark for a couple of months and our first batch of cadets are still waiting to fly our school's light aircraft. Cebu Pacific Airlines truly believes in the potential of the MPL because it's in their business interests. pioneering? let's just wait how my upper batch colleagues will do when they take to the skies early next year.
we're less than 80 cadets here and growing each month... there are the foreigners, the loyal Cebu Pac employees that qualified for the sponsorship, and those whose benefactors could afford the tuition (including the would-be 2nd generation pilots, don't ask why some of us didn't go to PAL Av School instead) who are also sponosored by Cebu Pacific.
those who wish to castigate Clark Aviation and the MPL may do so in the thread provided by Mach086.
Cheers!
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Well Australia is on its way to approving it. All early students of all of the MPL schools will be closely monitored during and after they complete the program by the international aviation community. After the first classes graduate and they start flying we will see if the program has any value. 12 months of training is alot of time if the program is well thought out and presents the right information.
http://casa.gov.au/fcl/multicrew/index.htm
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it's already approved here in the Philippines; however our aviation autorities are still keeping a close eye on the training as this is the first of its kind in the world (Clark's ground school is based on JAA APTL courses by Bristol Groundschool in the UK, we'll only have 70 hours of light aircraft using Alpha Robins, and it's the CAE A320 simulator all the way until we get rated to fly the Airbus A320)
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I really believe that many people are shooting from the hip.
1) The MPL concept was an ICAO initiative to address the very real problem of a shortage of correctly trained airline pilots. This programme was the end result of around 20+ member states so by inference, 20+ member states will approve it.
2) Clark and Alteon are running MPL programmes that exceed the ICAO requirements
3) Comments such as “200 hours + 320 ( or any other ) type rating = disaster are just plain ridiculous. Airlines such as British Airways and Lufthansa have been doing just this for over 20 years, albeit in the more traditional training format.
4) All MPL programmes and students are being and will be more closely monitored than any other student has ever been/will ever be.
5) Where this idea that the MPL is a cheap solution comes from is beyond me. In most environments it could actually cost more. It’s prime objectives are time savings and competency, not $$$$
6) Just how successful the MPL will be is still uncertain as of course no MPL license has yet been issued. However if the MPL isn’t a success, there are going to be a lot of airframes parked up in deserts as no one else has come up with an alternative solution to address the pilot shortage and possibly a more critical shortage, that of flight instructors. Asia has the problem now. Europe is not far behind. Because of their unique GA situation the US may be able to survive without changing training philosophies, but at least Clark, Alteon and others are doing something.
1) The MPL concept was an ICAO initiative to address the very real problem of a shortage of correctly trained airline pilots. This programme was the end result of around 20+ member states so by inference, 20+ member states will approve it.
2) Clark and Alteon are running MPL programmes that exceed the ICAO requirements
3) Comments such as “200 hours + 320 ( or any other ) type rating = disaster are just plain ridiculous. Airlines such as British Airways and Lufthansa have been doing just this for over 20 years, albeit in the more traditional training format.
4) All MPL programmes and students are being and will be more closely monitored than any other student has ever been/will ever be.
5) Where this idea that the MPL is a cheap solution comes from is beyond me. In most environments it could actually cost more. It’s prime objectives are time savings and competency, not $$$$
6) Just how successful the MPL will be is still uncertain as of course no MPL license has yet been issued. However if the MPL isn’t a success, there are going to be a lot of airframes parked up in deserts as no one else has come up with an alternative solution to address the pilot shortage and possibly a more critical shortage, that of flight instructors. Asia has the problem now. Europe is not far behind. Because of their unique GA situation the US may be able to survive without changing training philosophies, but at least Clark, Alteon and others are doing something.
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