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Old 19th Jan 2008, 04:01
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A320

TR for the AB is about $15K US... REALLY!!!
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Old 19th Jan 2008, 04:02
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Smile cost in WA

on the western side of aus. just to give you an idea, i did my CPL/ multi endorsement in 2005. i spent around A$60-70k in total including cost of training, accommodation, food, car (you need one to go around), etc.

just my two cents worth.
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Old 21st Jan 2008, 09:38
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Western Australia

Hi Flapless2x! That was in 2005, so by now it should be a bit more expensive... Hehe! What school in Western Australia did you attend?

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Old 21st Jan 2008, 12:31
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The Philippine Peso has been steadily appreciating.

If your savings/income is in Philippine Pesos, then the cost of training outside the Philippines has gone down. Search the web for the PHP's trend. Some say it'll be USD1:PHP38 in 2008.

Its a good time to buy imported goods

Australia and the US have relatively low inflation compared to the Philippines. Prices there haven't increased as much as in the Philippines.

my 2 centavos ...
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Old 22nd Jan 2008, 00:56
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Flight Training Organisations WA

go to:

Royal Aero Club of Western Australia - a friend trained there and he reckons they're great.

Air Australia - professional and warm outfit.
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Old 22nd Jan 2008, 06:39
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Thanks Kaptin Kook and pinoypiloto!

I never thought that the appreciation of the peso will have a good effect on my plans of pursuing my flight training abroad... Hehe!
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Old 24th Jan 2008, 16:42
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Costs

My Korean friend got his TR on AB320 at Natco, Eagan, MN for $13,000++ only. 320 TR isn't that expensive actually.
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Old 24th Jan 2008, 22:14
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Alpha Aircraft Manufacturer closing shop

http://www.alphaaviation.co.nz/

How will this affect CA's plan to have a fleet of Alpha 120s for their Core Flying? Does this mean a new set of aircraft from another manufacturer?

Or a long term relationship with Omni's 152s?
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Old 27th Jan 2008, 22:24
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But fascinating for me to see the IP addresses

Keep it clean children

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Old 28th Jan 2008, 06:32
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As far as I know there is no reason the Alpha’s can not still be used for training even if the company goes out of business. The few they have will be good for a while. If I what I heard was correct they spent a lot for them, shame to sell them for a big loss. With the US dollar being weak and aircraft prices being low it would be a good time for them to buy up a few used C172’s. Good C172’s with low time airframes (3000-4000 hrs) that have never been used as a trainer can be had for around $40,000 US. (1970-1975 vintage) You overhaul the engines in the US before bring them over, do a structural survey and standardize the panels. Price before shipping would be approx $60,000 each. Figure two to container shipping is $2000 each. Paint and basic interior in Philippines $5000 each . So for around $67,000 USD or 2.75 Million Peso you have a zero time engine C172. ( plus what ever the import duty is) Figure 2000 hour TBO and not counting any damage that is only $34.00 an hour. Then if you rebuild the engine the next cycle is cheaper. Having owned a few C172’s there is very little that can really go wrong if they are maintained well.
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Old 28th Jan 2008, 15:41
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I do agree that bringing in a new type was a bad decision, but they seemed to make a lot of them. I would stick to C172's over C150's if I was them. C172's are move avaiable in better shape, allow for an observer, and would be more sellable when necessary. Does not make any sense to source C172's from down under. They are much more expensive and most of them have alot of hours from being used up as trainers. I see at least 2 planes a month being shipped to Aus. (of course if it is another deal to make someone money and not look after the the best interests of CIA) The big difference is you can find low time airframes never used by a school that have been well cared for. Here is an example.

http://www.controller.com/listings/a...A2BDDCC55C41DA
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CTC also ordered 26 Alphas. Are they Amateurs as well?
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Old 1st Feb 2008, 04:13
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hi Alexander1018

No bank in the world will lend you money if they think you won't be able to pay it back. So, to answer your question - Yes, you would need a backer or a guarantor to get a loan. Not unless you have a job earning good money and a clean credit rating.


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Slatch - I've answered your PM. You are most welcome.
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Re Australia

Thanks 8 ball! I guess I still have to ask help from my old man!
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Old 3rd Feb 2008, 00:06
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SKills Skills Skills

I agree with ECAM Actions.

70 hours is a long way from the website min. of 1500. I don't understand why Lancelot agreed to this.

By the way what happened to puliszaido on the other thread. He seems to have good information about CIA.
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Old 5th Feb 2008, 07:55
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Its the only FTF where the CEO dances.

I hope the parents of the students get to see that video on the other thread.
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Old 6th Feb 2008, 09:40
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manina

Its a classic case of pay now fly later.

They want to get all the money first then play it by ear if all the BSing will be bought by the parents and students.

Sad to say the Filipinos became the test subject for this. and even Lancelot exposed himself with these people.

sad sad sad
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Old 7th Feb 2008, 15:16
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Eight ball,

Is it true that there is no A320 Sim in Clark I.A.? So, why are students resigning from the program?

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Old 7th Feb 2008, 20:24
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Not true. Cebu Pacific's own A320 FFS is installed there. 2nd sim might be installed by now also?
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Old 8th Feb 2008, 03:24
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Alpha12039,

I don't know where you're getting you're information from but don't put words in my mouth. Who is ACCRA ?... don't even know them.

So, please stop making things up.


Hi Cessna1052 - they have a simulator. There's one here now and I'm afraid I can't disclose here anymore than that. PM me and I'll tell you how many more is on it's way. And did someone say students RESIGNED ???.... who ???? Geezzz..... some people are really envious of the school that they are willing to destroy it by spreading bad rumours.

Let me know when you're in the Philippines next pards and we'll go for that drink. .
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