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Old 11th Jun 2007, 06:20
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I appologize it was a joke. I do like the Canadians very much. My point is lets not be so negative.
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Old 11th Jun 2007, 12:54
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You're okay Bustrash -- .... instant comprehension - you can be my wingman anytime.

Guys just an advise, see if you can get an A320 or A330 add-on to your flight sim software and read on the flight manuals and familiarize yourself with the Airbus systems and instruments. What SimCenter has allocated us in terms of the sim hours are not enough. Some may find it very difficult.

Another thing, review on your ATPL subjects if you have already done them.

PosClimb- I understand what you mean, and I don't really blame you if you're sceptical - people have been burned because of these people who promises the world but don't deliver. But it's a healthy scepticism - nothing wrong with it.


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Old 12th Jun 2007, 13:50
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Simcenter and ingido

Did someone really check if simcenter and Indigo have an agreement ?
I mean ,can someone confirm that he called\e-mail Indigo and got an answer ....
Guys ,we are talking here on lots of money ...
keep it real (and don't let it goes wrong )
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Old 12th Jun 2007, 15:24
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Hello Everyone Simcenter / Indigo

I did the research and i have a friend working as a Captain for indigo, the whole training / placement program with Simcenter is not bullet proof , all they want u guys to do is go to miami and do the Airbus Type Rating A 320 there is no contract between Indigo and Simcenter , nothing at all .
Indigo just do there pick between a few training facilities and simcenter is one of them that s all . Mr Henri Georges might be a nice guy but he works for simcenter, he is a salesman nothing else. Now there is a huge demand of pilot in Asia right now but let s get real , if u don t meet 1000 TT and 500 Multi the DGCA will never clear you and there is quite a lot of pilot with way more flight time struggling for jobs and doing the same training as everyone is talking about .
AS GOOD AS IT SOUNDS , nothing is full proof , there is no contract , no agreement , i don t care what simcenter says.
Best of luck to everyone ,
Flysafe.
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Old 13th Jun 2007, 03:01
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hey simcenter

dude!
I know you want to go get your type. I talked to henry gorge(?) and asked him what the prices were. By yourself, 12000, with a partner 10,400. So I am trying to find a partner. Do you want to go together for the July 10th class? Let me know ..email me [email protected]
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Old 13th Jun 2007, 08:32
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Sorry David Jurgens - I already have a partner. I know someone who is doing it in August.

By the way, someone has confirmed with Indigo and they will still hire SO even if you do the course in August. Also, it doesn't matter to them where you do your type rating - as long as you can pass the line check.
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Old 13th Jun 2007, 20:00
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Sorry to sound so negative!

just recieved some information from a good source that jetairways in India has put hold (or maybe stop) their FO program with randhem aviation. Rhandom provides First Officers (captains) for Jet Airways. It seems that the last DGCA exams a lot of young pilots (close to 1000) mostly FO passed their exams, so for now the airlines have first officers. But short on Captains.

You guys might go get a type but be on hold!!!

Just be careful!!

Good Luck with all!
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Old 13th Jun 2007, 22:32
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Thought I would add some info. I did my course with Simcenter. I am heading to Indigo soon through ICPilot.com, which recieved my resume from Simcenter. I also had my resume looked at from Indigo with CAE.

As long as you study the manuals, flows, and limitations, and know your regs. you will do fine. Having crew experience will help. That took awhile for me as I use to being captain - single pilot in 1900s. But a day or two I got use to it.

I would recommend Simcenter, I had a blast with pretty much all the instructors. I might run into a few of you as I am planning on doing my recurrent with them.

One last thing, I believe Simcenter is one the few schools that doesn't take your money and hide. I have always been able to get a hold of someone to answer my questions.

And I forget. I know the 1000TT 500ME and is strict. Not sure how the program is going to work for low time guys. So see you in MIA or Bangalore.

PS Some people have asked for the course material, which is all on CD.DVD so I cant email copies and need to hang on to my copies for study. And I don't have a burner on my comp., but other guys might be able to burn copies. And simcenter fedexs the package pretty fast.
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Old 13th Jun 2007, 22:57
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FAA to JAA

Actually, you aren't exempt from the 14 written exams. I am currently studying for Human Performance and Aviation Law. I have 21000 hours and fly for a major U.S. carrier. With these two written exams passed and a check ride you qualify for a limited JAA ATPL to fly UK registered aircraft only. To have an unrestricted JAA you have to pass all 14 written exams, as well as a check ride.
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Old 15th Jun 2007, 10:49
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Indigo - BAD NEWS

Sorry to be the bearer of BAD NEWS but I have received an email from ICP this afternoon and apparently Indigo has stopped the hiring of SO's as well. No solid reason was given by ICP except "might be a temporary" bull.

So, no go for the type rating for me. Anyone else got this bad news ?
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Old 15th Jun 2007, 14:56
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Yeah I heard about the bad news too....Indigo is really short on TRE's and TRI's, therefore they are having a hard time getting the SO's upto the 300hr time on type. I am thinking this is temp too as they are getting at least 5 more airplanes this year and they definitely need more pilots. Let's hope for the best guys and let's see what happens.

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Old 15th Jun 2007, 18:54
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Have you confirmed this info with Simcenter? (Just me wondering)

Are you guys going to just cancel your TR for the July 10th Class? If so, July 10th class will be empty, I was under the impression that everyone in there was going for the Indigo gig.

Better to find out now, that after having the TR.
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Old 16th Jun 2007, 04:14
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Empty classes

Empty classrooms (SimCenter) vs Empty pockets ( mine)

Better them than me. Looks like I will have to take the B737 position in Asia.

I've heard ( from someone who came from another airline ) they had a lot of FO expats with time on A320 take up the offer. Maybe the shortage of Captains, TRIs and TREs might also have contributed largely to the issue.

Gentlemen and ladies (if there is one) .... the stakes in the game has just skyrocketed. For those who will lose nothing I suggest to still go for it but to the ones who will be financially and severely affected, find another airline - quickly !!! Let me know too....


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Old 16th Jun 2007, 11:35
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Interesting, this whole Simcenter program lasted a total of 3 weeks (Rough Calculation).

For anyone that doesnt read this forum and was signed up for the class, I hope they do tell them before the class date.

Does anyone know if you can still pay for the 300 Hours of line training? Is that still an option? This is still advertised on the Simcenter website.
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Old 16th Jun 2007, 12:05
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JAA conversion

In order to fly UK registered aircraft you have to complete Human Performance and Aviation Law. This gives you a limited ATPL for UK registered aircraft only. I am currently studying for these two written exams. I have 21000 hours and ratings in A330/A320/B737/B727 several turbopprops and helos. I am a major U.S. airline A320 Captain retiring in October due age 60. In order to have an unlimited JAA ATPL (A) you have to complete remaining 12 written exams within 18 months of taking the first written.
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Old 16th Jun 2007, 21:18
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Hi there Panther06,

Thanks for the info. I am now seriously considering taking up the limited ATPL.

Don't you need some UK ancestry to work there if you do get the limited version ? The reason being someone mentioned to me before that you need to be at least a 2nd generation English, Scottish or Irish.

Otherwise HK or Middle East would be the alternative.


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Old 17th Jun 2007, 08:12
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Airbatic7eca,

Yes they still have the FO hour building program but it's on the B727.
Not unless you are aiming for the 727 then you should be asking for the A320.
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Old 18th Jun 2007, 04:49
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I don't know about you guys but speaking for myself - I'm pulling the ejection handle on this one. It's too risky. I am all for risk but it has to be a calculated risk, like Indigo will hire SO on the premise of getting a type rating risking not being employed if I don't pass the TR, interview and no time on type. But it has now gone beyond what I expect to be a "reasonable" risk. NO JOB AT THE END OF IT. I don't care what Maya says that it might be just "temporary" - I'll believe it when I see it.

Also, take into account the waiting period for the security clearance once this situation of "no hiring" has been lifted then the waiting period again of converting your license to Indian doing exams, medical and others. It's a long wait without pay gentlemen.

Find yourself a new job first then take leave to do the TR. At least you have some income while waiting.

As for me -- I'm cancelling my enrollment.

Goodluck everyone

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Old 18th Jun 2007, 13:36
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DeltaSix,

You got me on the ancestry part.Don't know about that. According to some of the FAA to JAA schools I have contacted jobs in the UK are possible with only the two written exams (I think you must pass a JAA check ride during your initial training). I am using study material from Bristol Ground School.
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Old 3rd Jul 2007, 11:20
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Listen Guys,

Having done an A320 type rating with Simcenter i have gained employment with indigo and yes this was arranged partly by simcenter. However prior to indigo, sim center did have an arrangement with air deccan...it was a nasty deal, basically having to pay ludicrous amount of dosh for the privelige. With the emergence of several other airlines in india who are willing to pay a decent salary, this better signal the end of airlines exploiting pilots chasing the dream!!

So basically for all you boys and girls with the idea of going to india here is the low down....you need atleast 1000TT, A320 type rating which is current, have to go through the mickey mouse international clearence which takes around 2-3 months.

Hope this helps
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