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Old 18th Apr 2007, 08:43
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Question Sri Lankan Airlines Whats going on?

Ayubowan every one.

What's happening to our airline. We are not in a good situ are we. Country in shambles airline is staggering.

Is Mihin Lanka taking over the show?. I guess its someone elses turn. Am I right.
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Well i guess its time to start a new thread huh. Since the other one got shut down and some got banned...no surprises there.

I dun think mihin airs gunna take over anytime soon, they flew to some indian destination(not sure which) and were unable to return due to technical difficulties.
Until they get some decent aircraft they won't be making any headlines. that being said they have the president on their side, its his brainchild and i can forsee loads of money being put it to make it work.
As to sri lankan, i have no idea, last i heard we were just making a profit..only just!

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mihin air

As far as I know they are going to train local pilots by next year< but dont know what how selection will be made.

Well lets hope that mihin air doesnt become AIRFORCE 1 of srilanka.

Well as for srilankan the contract with emirates is still under negotiation ending next year March.If they extend the contract for 10 years they are planning to replace the current fleet of 330/340 with 350/787 & 346/777 after 2012. (2012 since the orders are not made yet and uncertian of the future of contract)

Sad thing for us as pilots is the that srilankans expansions are limited because of uncertainty and limits cadet pilots intake.
 
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Hi Guys,
Thank God the moderator finally turned up and put a stop to some of our friends posts ...it was getting out of control....but that's been the sri lankan mentality ever since independence! Crabs in a basket trying to get out!

Yes, it doesn't look good for UL, the goverment snubbed EK again by not attending the arranged meeting by sending a sms the previous night to management cancelling the meeting, again my first statement stands true.

I only hope sanity prevails...

You would have heard that the DGCA has taken up another posting due to the interference from the top where he was unable to perform his duties rightly....great guy, but what a waste, some croony will replace him who will be a YES man.

It's a waiting game now....
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ul ek deal

well with less than a year to go for the contract is over no one knows where there going. well its bad not just for th airline but the country and
future cadets.

without a clear cut indication the airline cannot expand then it limits the cadet intakes(no new a/c joining the airline)

since emirates has 43% of stake they will not just walk out when those guys strike a deal they stay hit ,no turning back irrespective of anything, that the thier attitude and ego.

we all know after the 9/11 attacks the global aviation industry was cutting them self out, but EK WENT ON TO ORDER 45 A380S

IF THE GOVERNMENT CANCELS THE EMIRATES DEAL THEN THEY WILL ALSO CUT OTHER VENTURES NOT TO MENTION THE EMPLOYMENT OF SRILANKANS IN DUBAI WOW THEN WERE THE HECK ARE WE GOING TO GET SOO MUCH OF FOREIGN INCOME.

CANCELING MEETINGS IS ONLY THING THE GOV. CAN DO NOTING MUCH . Because never heard of any privatized company coming back to state control.
 
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I think the answer to your question is a plain and simple 'Yes'.

The fact that the President now uses Mihin Air for his official trips seriously undermines Sri Lankan's status as national carrier.

Once Mihin Air starts scheduled operations it will take over traffic rights to whichever UL destination it chooses, since as a solely government-owned airline it will get priority access to routes based on inter-government agreements. With Mihin Air targeting the Indian and Middle East sectors, which is probably where most of UL's income comes from, loss of these sectors will seriously affect UL's bottom line.

The traffic rights UL had acquired over the years was probably the only thing that attracted EK in the first place. If Mihin Air has priority access to these rights, UL would be a lot less attractive to EK.

EK was never comfortable with the unionised staff and employee-friendly labour laws it had to contend with in Sri Lanka, and would not be able to cut staff strength to a level needed to stay in the black as UL lost profitable routes. Since the funds for all the Voluntary Severance Schemes so far have been from EK, given the evolving situation it is highly unlikely that EK will spend on another VSS.

EK itself has massive financial commitments with its own fleet expansion, and the last thing they'd want on their hands would be the kind of uncertainty that UL and Sri Lanka have to offer right now.

I have heard many people argue that job opportunities for Sri Lankans in the Middle East would be affected by a breakdown in the EK deal. That is of course assuming that good relations between Sri Lanka and Dubai hinges solely on the UL/ EK agreement, which is certainly not the case. Moreover, Dubai is no where close to being the main destination for Sri Lankan labour migration to the Middle East, so even a tightening of entry requirements for Sri Lankans would not make a large dent in Sri Lanka’s income from inward remittances, while depriving the UAE of a source of educated cheap labour. However I do feel that the means by which the government is trying to get out of the EK agreement will probably have many potential investors backing off at a time when Sri Lanka is badly in need of FDI.

Frankly the only advice I can honestly give my friends at UL is to bail out while they still have marketability, because that drops drastically when the situation at UL becomes apparent to prospective employers. Those who were around when Air Ceylon went belly up know the sad situation the staff found themselves in. If you hang around to turn the lights out, God help you.

While Mihin Air does not have the expertise of SQ to back them up, there is no shortage of local expertise, which was one of the greatest drawbacks at the time of the transition from Air Ceylon to Air Lanka.

I hear that many good staff are already in line for jobs at Mihin Air, though there are still quite a few who have convinced themselves that Mihin Air will never make it. It was the same in 1979, when UL was struggling to get things going with two rickety leased B707's and the Air Ceylon staff who were laid off waited quite happily for UL to flame out and Air Ceylon to come back. Eventually most of them lined up at the gate and took whatever jobs were offered them at greatly reduced salaries. A hungry family has a way of clearing the fog of great expectations.

Sadly for the many good people at UL, I think the writing is on the wall for a company which had an uncanny knack for bouncing back relatively unscathed from the hardest of times.

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Bailing Out When They Can

WELL AS PER ETIHAD AIRWAYS CAREERS PAGE FOR FLIGHT CREW THEY HAVE VACANCIES FOR 300 F/O & 100 CAPTAINS.

TOTAL TIME FOR F/O 2500HRS TT(1000 HRS IN JET EXCESS
60TONS)
BASIC SALARY 24500 DHS
FLYING PAY 2600 DHS (40PER HR *65 HR PER MONTH)
HOUSING ALLOWANCE 9583 DHSPER MONTH(115000DHS PER ANNUM)
MEAL ALLOWANCE 3500 DHS
PROFIT SHARE(USUALLY A MONTHS BASIC SALARY OR TWO)
CHILDRENS EDUCATION FOR 4 CHILDREN 25000-30000 DHS PER ANNUM PER CHILD
42 DAYS OFF + MANY OTHER BENIFITS MEDICAL TICKETS

COMMAND FOR F/O IS APPROX. 4 YEARS FROM DATE OF JOINING

TOTALS AROUND 55000DHS PACKAGE (INCLUDES INSURANCE PROFIT SHARE AND ASSUMING 2CHILDREN FOR EDU.) THERE FOR ITS AROUND 15000US$ (1 US$ =3.67 DHS) FOR F/O.

TOTAL TIME FOR CAPTAIN 7000HRS TT (4000HRS JET 60TONS>)
BASIC SALARY 33000DHS
FLYING PAY 3250 DHS(50 PER HR*65HR PER MONTH)
HOUSING ALLOWANCE 10000DHS PER MONTH(120000PER ANNUM)
MEAL ALLOWANCE 3500 DHS
PROFIT SHARE CHILDRENS EDUCATION MEDICAL 42 DAYS OFF SAME AS F/O)
TOTAL 68000 DHS OR 18528 US$

ETIHAD WILL BE GETTING THEIRA380 BY 2009 SO ALL HIGH EXPERIENCED F/O & CAPTS CAN LOOK FORWARD TO FLY THE BLUE WHALE OF THE SKY


BESIDES A LOW COST CARRIER BASED IN SHARJAH CALLED AIR ARABIA OPERATES A320

F/O 1500 TT 800HRS ON A320

PAYS AROUND 28000DHS OR 7692US $

CAPTAINS 5000TT 800 PIC HRS ON A320

PAYS AROUND 36500DHS OR 10000US $

SEE NOTE BELOW********

QATAR HAS TEMPO STOPPED RECRUITMENT BUT WILL CALL FOR APPLICATIONS WITHIN 6 MONTHS FOR BOTH F/O AND CAPT.ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE GIVEN A MASSIVE SALARY HIKE FOR PILOTS.

PREVIOUSLY HIRED F/O WITH ONLY 1000HRS AIRLINE OPERATIONS AS PER TYPE WHICH THEY FLEW PRIOR JOINING.
AND CAPTAINS WITH 6000 HRS TT

BASIC FOR CAPT 28000QR
HOUSING 12000QR
FLYING PAY 7200 QR
MEAL ALLOWANCE 3000QR
+ PROFIT SHARE +EDUCATION +INSURANCE +TRAVEL BENEFITS

TOTALS AROUND 55000QR (15500US $)+ ANNUAL INCREMENT
1 US $ =3.65 QR

F/O BASIC 18500
HOUSING 10000QR
FLYING PAY 4200QR
MEAL ALLOWANCE 3000QR
+PROFIT SHARE+EDUCATION +INSURANCE+TRAVEL BENIFITS

COMMAND REQUIREMENTS FOR F/O 3YEARS WITH QATAR & 5000TT

TOTAL 40700QR (11150US$)

RETIREMENT AGES ARE 62 FOR QR SOON ETIHAD PILOTS WILL BE ALLOWEDTO FLY UNTIL 65 BY GCAA(EMIRATES PILOTS ARE ALREADY GIVEN THE OPPERTUNITY AS PER THERE RECRUITMENT PAGE)

THEY LIVE A 5 STAR LIFE WITH PEACE IN MIND NO WAR LESS CRIMES

NOTE :- IF A PILOT WISHES TO JOIN EMIRATES IN LONG RUN THEY COULD DO SO BY FLYING FOR AIR ARABIA FOR 3 YEARS BEFORE THEY CAN SWITCH TO EMIRATES.MANY LOW TIME AIR ARABIA PILOTS HAVE DONE SO INCLUDING ONE FEMALE PILOT CALLED MARTHA PABONE A COLOMBIAN NATIONAL.

AND WHAT DO OUR GUYS GET AT UL WITH HEAPS OF HEAVY JET HRS????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

WELL ASK SOME OF OF THE FOLKS WHO LEFT UL FLYING FOR QATAR & ETIHAD

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Proud to be Sri Lankan

I hope they take out this LTTE air wing, the last thing anyone would want is a bogey on their six around Katunayake airspace!

Hope the Sri lankan cricketers do well today! GO LANKA GO!!
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Shame for the cricketers...they tried hard. LTTE air wing flying high....is anyone going to stop them?
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I dno much abt our SLAF's abilities but its hard to understand how a propellor Zlin aircraft can evade being shot down by our KFIR jets and MIG's. I understand they fly without lights and have no heat signature but don't we still have the better capability.
The endless propoganda makes me sick too, no idea whos telling the truth!

Nyways getting back to Sri Lankan, is there anyone out there whos going to apply to the next cadets? What qualifications do u have? What are you doing to prepare for the dreaded tech exam?

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Extract from a statement by Sheikh Ahmed, Chairman of Emirates :

Emirates, the world's eighth-largest international air passenger carrier in 2005, operates a fleet of 102 aircraft and has another 106 on order, including 43 of Airbus's A380 superjumbo. It carried 10.5 million passengers in the second half, up from 7.52 million in the year-earlier period. The government-owned airline plans to expand its fleet to 157 and double the number of its destinations to about 170 during the next five years, adding cities in the United States, Africa and India.

Sheikh Ahmed ruled out buying stakes in other airlines such as PIA. "There's nothing in the pipeline at the moment. We're focusing on the airline [Emirates], not investing in other carriers."

Food for thought for those expecting EK to fund UL's future plans.
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Thumbs up Tech prep

Newagebird,

I am applying for the next intake...whenever it is.
Studying Aussie ATPL theory and attempting JAA/CAA questions.

If you or anyone else require help, send me a message.

My qualifications are minimal at CPL/MECIR/FIR and a whole heap of endorsements that are not required. All Australian.

Good luck
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No Night Flights

WELL ITS A WISE IDEA TO SUSPEND NIGHT FLIGHTS, BUT SRILANKAN SHOULD PROTECT THEIR A/C. THEY SHOULDNT BE LYING IN THE RAMP IN OPEN OR THE A/C SHOULD BE BASED IN ANOTHER COUNTRY FOR THE SAKE OF THE SAFETY OF THOSE A/C.

WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN 2001, 6 A/CS WERE DAMAGED & DESTROYED THATS THE LAST THING WE WANT.

SO UL MANAGEMENT SHOULD TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION AGAIST SAFE GUARING THIER AIRCRAFTS AND SOMEONE FROM UL READING THE TREAD PLEASE BRING IT TO THEIR ATTENTION IF THEY HAVE NOT PLANNED FOR IT YET.

AFTER ALL KATUNAYAKE DOESNT HAVE TO BE CLOSED IF NOT FOR THAT SLAF BASE THERE, THATS WHAT THE LTTE IS AFTER(EVEN IN 2001 THEY CAME TO ATTACK THE FIGHTER JETS AND WE ALL KNOW HOW SRILANKAN A/C GOT HIT SHOOTING LIKE MANIACS)

AFTERMATH WAS SRILANKAN AIRLINES LOOSING CLOSE TO 350 MN US$
AND AIRFORCE NOT EVEN LOOSING 10MN US $ .SO ANY ONE CAN UNDERSTAND THAT THE DAMGE EFFECTED HEAVILY ON SRILANKAN NOT AIRFORCE.

ITS A BLOODY VIOLATION OF ICAO RULES TO OPERATE A AIRFORCE BASE IN A INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT AND NO ONE SEES TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT WONDER WHY?????????????????????????????????????????????????

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YEh good idea, move the aircraft to a hangar so the LTTE knows exactly where they are!! Theres another problem, we don't have enough hangars to accomodate 14 aircraft! If they hide the planes then they'll have to do it to the other airlines' aircraft. The whole point of shutting down the airport is to hide the aircraft and (this is just a guess) i reckon the TAF use the VOR/NDB to track to the airport or maybe they have GPS! Shutting down the power means the aids dont work!

Its a crime that the SLAF cant shoot them down, but its not surprising given they have no night capable aircraft. The US pacific command told them to stop investing in expensive MIG-27s and instead get some damn night vision goggles.
The problem with the TAF is that they have light propellor planes, extremely difficult to see at night unless they have lights on.
Maybe the airforce will upgrade their facilities in Weerawila and shift down there.
Theres no solution to this problem other than neutralise the threat posed and that means shoot down the TAF.

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CERTAINLY IF THA A/C ARE IN HANGARS THEN WE ARE ASKING FOR IT.
THATS A MA.... CHI.... IDEA.

SRILANKAN SHOULD SHEDULE THEIR FLIGHTS SO NO A/C IS IN COLOMBO WHILE THE AIRPORT IS CLOSED. PROBALY ARRANGE LATE NIGHT FLIGHTS TO INDIA,MIDDLE EAST,S.E.ASIA AND KEEP THE A/C THERE AND BRING THEM IN THE EARLY MORNING WHEN THE AIRPORT REOPENS. THEN THEY COULD TURN AROUND FLIGHTS AS NECESSARY(BUT COSTLY THOUGH)
 
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I'm sure they will work out the schedule to best make a profit. However its gunna cost a fair bit of money to have 14 aircraft in a different place. the airport is only shut from 10.30 to 4.30 or so i hear so thats 6 hours an aircraft cannot land.

It doesnt sound so bad but the effect the LTTE airforce (TAF) is having on the tourism industry is of more concern than anything else. UL relies on indian businessmen, lankan expats and tourists travelling in and out of the country. Tourism industry is one of the largest SL have and if that goes down the drain then UL could be in trouble. As it is we're not making that much money. Hopefully things will improve.
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Thumbs up qatar pilot vacancies

As i have mentioned earlier qatar has fresh openings which is ongoing for both f/o and captains with their revised salary.

anyone intrested can log on to careers-flight crew of qr website for more details.

f/o openings for as little as 1000hrs tt
500hrs on type(320/330/340)
 
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Uniform Lima please stop yelling...
And MOD(S), do you condone the use of full names as stated my U.L. earlier in this thread?
I think discression is the key here lads. Lets use it.
You hide behind your "handle", U.L., and make brash statements, but put yourself in another's shoes...
We are all in a position where we want to keep our head below the radar and get the job done (for most of us it's for our entire career), and... don't kid yourself, we are all capable of getting ourselves in trouble. We don't need anyone's help. Do you know what I'm sayin', U.L.? 21 posts and a member for a month? I had a previous alias for some 11 years but a computer crash caused me to rise from the ashes as Troff. I watched but rarely spoke. If you want to pee with the big dogs...
Ask yourself: Would you like your full name splashed about on world aviation's "tattler"?
Then why not tell us who YOU really are, U.L.?


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hey troff
relax man, Uniform Lima isnt as bad as some of the guys who got kicked off the forum cuz of the last thread. I dun think hes shouting, in fact his posts always have caps and many emoticons. Let it be, all the Sri Lankan threads of the past don't exactly give us the best rep on this site atm so lets try and be a little civil. If u still wanna vent at him send him a PM. He's still entitled to his views as long as he aint attacking other members, u feel me?

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Is this the time

I have almost decided with my family to leave UL. I suppose this is the time. Its sad. But will Etihad, Qatar, SIA or Jet take us.
I was told that cpt RJ is an instructor with Qatar. Does anyone have his contact so I could get in touch with him. And any other contacts to other airlines to find out more info. Or even cpt Sunils.

Would appreciate it very much.
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