Pay Comparision in Asia Pacific
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Hi.....Ek-approx salary in hand....INR-1,60,000 PM
Silk-1.75
SIA-1.65(due higher training costs)
Goair-1.20
Spice-1.35
AIE-1.10
Indigo-1.30
Kingfisher-1.20
Sahara-1.40
These are ALL in INR....PM....and NET...ie TAKE HOME salary. Of course all are minus all training costs!! And at nthe overtime limit. BTW....Indian now pays the highest amongst ALL indian carriers.Obviously to negate the effect that Indigo is gonna create.Approx 1.40 in hand.A lotta med/insurance benifits with Indian of course.Being that its a govt company.Speed.....stop posting on a perfectly good thread and destroying its essence! And pleeeease take the advice on the thread and go get an (english) grammar lesson b4 ur next post.And 9w.....dont be a winder.What Vim says is perfectly legit.And nothing can change it.....lol.Including all your "pursuasive" posts.....
.TC fellas.Blue skies always..........BD.
Silk-1.75
SIA-1.65(due higher training costs)
Goair-1.20
Spice-1.35
AIE-1.10
Indigo-1.30
Kingfisher-1.20
Sahara-1.40
These are ALL in INR....PM....and NET...ie TAKE HOME salary. Of course all are minus all training costs!! And at nthe overtime limit. BTW....Indian now pays the highest amongst ALL indian carriers.Obviously to negate the effect that Indigo is gonna create.Approx 1.40 in hand.A lotta med/insurance benifits with Indian of course.Being that its a govt company.Speed.....stop posting on a perfectly good thread and destroying its essence! And pleeeease take the advice on the thread and go get an (english) grammar lesson b4 ur next post.And 9w.....dont be a winder.What Vim says is perfectly legit.And nothing can change it.....lol.Including all your "pursuasive" posts.....
.TC fellas.Blue skies always..........BD.
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Hey B787
Thanks for the very useful info. I hope your figures are correct, you seem quite well informed.
On another note, thank you for putting speedtwoten in his place aswell. I thought I was the only one out there who was having difficulty in comprehending what he was saying. (Or trying to say)
Thanks for the very useful info. I hope your figures are correct, you seem quite well informed.
On another note, thank you for putting speedtwoten in his place aswell. I thought I was the only one out there who was having difficulty in comprehending what he was saying. (Or trying to say)
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OK now anyone wanna compare captains pay....
S2:2.4 net for 50hrs (1500/hr till 75, 2500/hr then on)
GOAir: 2.78 net for 75 hrs(2500/hr then on)
Indigo:same as GO.
KFA anyone?????
Guys, I wouldnt even bother replying to speeddemon..he's a windup artist, just do a search on his posts and u'll see....
S2:2.4 net for 50hrs (1500/hr till 75, 2500/hr then on)
GOAir: 2.78 net for 75 hrs(2500/hr then on)
Indigo:same as GO.
KFA anyone?????
Guys, I wouldnt even bother replying to speeddemon..he's a windup artist, just do a search on his posts and u'll see....
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Hi , thanks for the informative post BD 787 , that was an eye opener with pay conditons ... for FYI for guys out there , as far as I know , most junior F/O in JET are doing around 110 hrs a month on average , give or take a few hrs . The take home with those hours is roughly around 1.2 lakh.
Capt Prop , sorry , I have no idea of the time span , because I am yet to come across a situation such as you have described in India.
Speed , I am still unable to comprehend your post in relation to the thread, but I will say this much that you do need to understand the " english " language in order to effectively communicate your postion. ( 4 bars do seem to sit heavily on your shoulder's as it is evident that you are unable to except that there maybe people other than yourself who out perform you as a pilot and a person --- make sure u get a BIG BAG of HUMILITY)
Coming to Capts Pay in Jet and BD its around INR 3,50,000 as far as I know , unable to remember whether thats pre tax pay.
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Capt Prop , sorry , I have no idea of the time span , because I am yet to come across a situation such as you have described in India.
Speed , I am still unable to comprehend your post in relation to the thread, but I will say this much that you do need to understand the " english " language in order to effectively communicate your postion. ( 4 bars do seem to sit heavily on your shoulder's as it is evident that you are unable to except that there maybe people other than yourself who out perform you as a pilot and a person --- make sure u get a BIG BAG of HUMILITY)
Coming to Capts Pay in Jet and BD its around INR 3,50,000 as far as I know , unable to remember whether thats pre tax pay.
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Bangkok Airways
I started out in 2003 as F/O on ATR 72-500. Basic salary was THB 45,000/month (yeah, I know.....we are ont of the lowest paying pilot in the world). I dont know the THB / INR conversion, but it was THB 40/USD in those days. Per diem is different for each sector.
Now I am F/O on A320. My basic salary is THB 50,000 / month plus per diem of around 25,000-45,000 depending on my monthly schedule. O/T starts from the 71th hour at THB 400 / hour.
I think we are one of the lowest paying A320 pilot in the world.
Now I am F/O on A320. My basic salary is THB 50,000 / month plus per diem of around 25,000-45,000 depending on my monthly schedule. O/T starts from the 71th hour at THB 400 / hour.
I think we are one of the lowest paying A320 pilot in the world.
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Since we touched on the topic of English..
Aug 8, 2006
Pilots, air controllers to sit for English test
Move is to abide by global air safety standards that will kick in from 2008
By Karamjit Kaur, Aviation Correspondent
ALL Singapore pilots and air traffic controllers will be tested on their English language skills, as the Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore (CAAS) prepares to meet international standards to promote air safety.
Testing will start later this year for the more than 2,500 pilots and over 200 air traffic controllers. For those not up to the CAAS mark, they will have to go back to the classroom.
The need to push for safer skies has become more important in recent years with so many new airlines popping up, especially in Asia. The International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) has told its 189 member states that by March 2008, all pilots and air traffic controllers must have a basic working knowledge of English before they can be licensed. It means, for example, being able to pronounce words and letters clearly and being familiar with air traffic control jargon.
Candidates will be assessed and ranked on a scale of 1 to 6, with 6 being the highest level of proficiency. The minimum requirement is level 4 to be licensed but the CAAS is confident 'the vast majority' of Singapore pilots and air traffic controllers who are already required to speak fluent English will have no trouble meeting the highest level. Those who do not will be sent for classes every three or six years depending on their proficiency, a spokesman said.
Singapore Airlines supports ICAO's initiative, said its spokesman Stephen Forshaw. 'Given that the language of international aviation is English, proficiency in language communications is a critically important safety standard that the industry must follow.'
According to ICAO, more than 1,500 people have died worldwide in air traffic accidents due to communication problems between pilots and air traffic controllers.
The International Air Transport Association, which represents 261 airlines, supports the move too, said spokesman Albert Tjoeng. With less than two years before the new standards kick in, industry players gathered here last week to discuss what is required of airlines and airports. About 100 delegates from 31 countries, including representatives from ICAO and the International Federation of Air Line Pilots Associations, attended a three-day conference last week organised by the Singapore Aviation Academy.
Aug 8, 2006
Pilots, air controllers to sit for English test
Move is to abide by global air safety standards that will kick in from 2008
By Karamjit Kaur, Aviation Correspondent
ALL Singapore pilots and air traffic controllers will be tested on their English language skills, as the Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore (CAAS) prepares to meet international standards to promote air safety.
Testing will start later this year for the more than 2,500 pilots and over 200 air traffic controllers. For those not up to the CAAS mark, they will have to go back to the classroom.
The need to push for safer skies has become more important in recent years with so many new airlines popping up, especially in Asia. The International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) has told its 189 member states that by March 2008, all pilots and air traffic controllers must have a basic working knowledge of English before they can be licensed. It means, for example, being able to pronounce words and letters clearly and being familiar with air traffic control jargon.
Candidates will be assessed and ranked on a scale of 1 to 6, with 6 being the highest level of proficiency. The minimum requirement is level 4 to be licensed but the CAAS is confident 'the vast majority' of Singapore pilots and air traffic controllers who are already required to speak fluent English will have no trouble meeting the highest level. Those who do not will be sent for classes every three or six years depending on their proficiency, a spokesman said.
Singapore Airlines supports ICAO's initiative, said its spokesman Stephen Forshaw. 'Given that the language of international aviation is English, proficiency in language communications is a critically important safety standard that the industry must follow.'
According to ICAO, more than 1,500 people have died worldwide in air traffic accidents due to communication problems between pilots and air traffic controllers.
The International Air Transport Association, which represents 261 airlines, supports the move too, said spokesman Albert Tjoeng. With less than two years before the new standards kick in, industry players gathered here last week to discuss what is required of airlines and airports. About 100 delegates from 31 countries, including representatives from ICAO and the International Federation of Air Line Pilots Associations, attended a three-day conference last week organised by the Singapore Aviation Academy.
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Your salary is one part of the equation, the second one is what you can do with it. Cost of living is very different in Singapore in Laos or in Myanmar.
Working conditions are also an important factor.
I suggest you work on that and propose a balanced equation which will comprises salary, cost of living, welfare and working conditions.
In Europe, 10 or 15 years ago, we were all complaining about our conditions: Lufthansa is better than Air France, British Airways has better life than Air France but Air France has better salary than British Airways....and so on.
At the end, european unions worked together on a common comparison study.
The result was we were around an average with some plus and minus: when a plus salary then negative working conditions... At the end it was refleting also the different trend of the various national societies.
If you want to compare the salaries, it is a good idea but you have to enlarge your study on other aspects to be fair.
Your salary is one part of the equation, the second one is what you can do with it. Cost of living is very different in Singapore in Laos or in Myanmar.
Working conditions are also an important factor.
I suggest you work on that and propose a balanced equation which will comprises salary, cost of living, welfare and working conditions.
In Europe, 10 or 15 years ago, we were all complaining about our conditions: Lufthansa is better than Air France, British Airways has better life than Air France but Air France has better salary than British Airways....and so on.
At the end, european unions worked together on a common comparison study.
The result was we were around an average with some plus and minus: when a plus salary then negative working conditions... At the end it was refleting also the different trend of the various national societies.
If you want to compare the salaries, it is a good idea but you have to enlarge your study on other aspects to be fair.
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'Given that the language of international aviation is English, proficiency in language communications is a critically important safety standard that the industry must follow.'
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Vimd23 - "Capt Prop , sorry , I have no idea of the time span , because I am yet to come across a situation such as you have described in India."
OK, but does anyone have any info on the "new" contracts that are around now?
"Join now and have your upgrade in 12 months!"
Any ideas??
/CP
OK, but does anyone have any info on the "new" contracts that are around now?
"Join now and have your upgrade in 12 months!"
Any ideas??
/CP
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Upgrades
I have no idea as to upgrade time for these new contracts , to be honest , I have not heard of any such new contracts involving Expat F/O 's on any fleet . I do know , that deccan has F/O on the ATR fleet . Will let you know when I have some concrete info.
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Hi there , it may be true as I believe that we have taken over 100 pilots in the last year. As of now I have not heard anything , am going to mumbai soon , will let you know in a weeks time what I hear there.
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Last I heard , they have decided to go slow on local F/O recruitment , as their 777's training schedules hace been pushed to feb/march next year . Another reason is that there are 100 or so local f/o's in various stages of training , from doing the exam to waiting for DGCA endorsement to waiting for LOFT . So its a bit quiet now.
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Well , 9w , i joined mid last year , just completed my training and loft , salary is 91 K in hand , I just found out that they revised it a bit. It jumps to 1.8k gross in 6 months from now. The EMI is around 17000 per month , so its steep and its for 5 yrs.
The other salary bands in India as far as I know are for newly released F/O are:
1. AI -- Inr 180000.
2. IA -- Inr 150000.
3. Spicejet -- Inr 200000.
4. KFA -- Inr 150000
5. Blue Dart -- Inr 180000
Anyways , this is info.... kinda surprised that no one else has posted !!!!
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The other salary bands in India as far as I know are for newly released F/O are:
1. AI -- Inr 180000.
2. IA -- Inr 150000.
3. Spicejet -- Inr 200000.
4. KFA -- Inr 150000
5. Blue Dart -- Inr 180000
Anyways , this is info.... kinda surprised that no one else has posted !!!!
Cheers
vimd23
Hi.....Ek-approx salary in hand....INR-1,60,000 PM
Silk-1.75
SIA-1.65(due higher training costs)
Goair-1.20
Spice-1.35
AIE-1.10
Indigo-1.30
Kingfisher-1.20
Sahara-1.40
These are ALL in INR....PM....and NET...ie TAKE HOME salary. Of course all are minus all training costs!! And at nthe overtime limit. BTW....Indian now pays the highest amongst ALL indian carriers.Obviously to negate the effect that Indigo is gonna create.Approx 1.40 in hand.A lotta med/insurance benifits with Indian of course.Being that its a govt company.Speed.....stop posting on a perfectly good thread and destroying its essence! And pleeeease take the advice on the thread and go get an (english) grammar lesson b4 ur next post.And 9w.....dont be a winder.What Vim says is perfectly legit.And nothing can change it.....lol.Including all your "pursuasive" posts..... .TC fellas.Blue skies always..........BD.
Silk-1.75
SIA-1.65(due higher training costs)
Goair-1.20
Spice-1.35
AIE-1.10
Indigo-1.30
Kingfisher-1.20
Sahara-1.40
These are ALL in INR....PM....and NET...ie TAKE HOME salary. Of course all are minus all training costs!! And at nthe overtime limit. BTW....Indian now pays the highest amongst ALL indian carriers.Obviously to negate the effect that Indigo is gonna create.Approx 1.40 in hand.A lotta med/insurance benifits with Indian of course.Being that its a govt company.Speed.....stop posting on a perfectly good thread and destroying its essence! And pleeeease take the advice on the thread and go get an (english) grammar lesson b4 ur next post.And 9w.....dont be a winder.What Vim says is perfectly legit.And nothing can change it.....lol.Including all your "pursuasive" posts.....
.TC fellas.Blue skies always..........BD.So in the case of Kingfisher - they just take post dated cheques , nothing upfront , but then do they recover training costs from your salary . what abt the thing that if you serve them for 5 yrs then your tr is free ?!?!
Looking at this it appears that one makes less at 9W or am I missing a point or two here ?!?!
What are the advantages of working with 9W as compared to working with KF for a new F/O ?!?!
Thank you all ....
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Well , 9w is in the process of increasing F/O pay , as they realise they are losing guys. The thing about 9w is the training is good , but its takes a year to get online , there is steady transition to the widebody if you so desire to go and command is up in 3 years as well. But I still think 9w can do better , I also think the Mr N G is now looking into things more closely.
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