INDIA!!! BEWARE PARAMOUNT AIRWAYS
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Originally Posted by rookie_pilot
well said...
some of these expats forget that they are still in india when they enter the cockpit.
some of these expats forget that they are still in india when they enter the cockpit.
...and this (=forget that they are still in India=) is, even if you don't want to hear it rookie_pilot , an evidence, a proof of the highly qualified expats, you should be lucky to fly with
...if these expats enter a cockpit they work IN A COCKPIT(= neutral area) and they are not working IN INDIA. A cockpit is a working place, the same ALL OVER the Rest of the World, (even in India my friend) with same basic standards everywhere like safety, CRM, etc and has nothing, but absolutely nothing to do with COUNTRY, CULTURE, ETC
It seems obviously to be lack of intelligence (sorry) that you don't understand that a cockpit of an airliner is just a cockpit, worldwide, and has nothing to do with the flag painted outside on the fuselage!!
BTW - Did you pass your CRM course ?
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INDIAN ATPL INFOS
To my knowledge, the Indian ATPL is based on the old CAP 509 syllabus is not it? Sure more difficult that a FAA (or similar) syllabus but less that the JAR ones. From the info I have, questions are rather old they needs to be seriously updated.
Can you confirm?
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To my knowledge, the Indian ATPL is based on the old CAP 509 syllabus is not it? Sure more difficult that a FAA (or similar) syllabus but less that the JAR ones. From the info I have, questions are rather old they needs to be seriously updated.
Can you confirm?
Thank you
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Asian Frog,
You are absolutely right, the questions are very old. But they have started asking questions on RVSM, ETOPS and EGPWS adn Wx Radar. But somehow they still manage to ask lots of old questions based on very old technology. If you like I can send you a couple (only a couple as I'd have to type those questions) of sample questions.
This should give you some idea of the syllabus for Indian ATPL http://dgca.nic.in/cars/d7b-b6.pdf
You are absolutely right, the questions are very old. But they have started asking questions on RVSM, ETOPS and EGPWS adn Wx Radar. But somehow they still manage to ask lots of old questions based on very old technology. If you like I can send you a couple (only a couple as I'd have to type those questions) of sample questions.
This should give you some idea of the syllabus for Indian ATPL http://dgca.nic.in/cars/d7b-b6.pdf
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A321,
Left Wing and Rookie_Pilot they just never seen other countries they just grow up flying in India, so don't give them such question they don't understand about CRM there is non such thing's in India
Left Wing and Rookie_Pilot they just never seen other countries they just grow up flying in India, so don't give them such question they don't understand about CRM there is non such thing's in India
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hello a321
you dont have to get so personal...
i am just going by my experiences...
you might be a nice guy....but in general expats have to understand indian sentivities and culture....
the other day, i was flying with this british guy, and he seemed to think india was still a british colony going by his attitude to the crew and ground staff. on one more instance, one of the captains was making an absolute full of himself by imitating an 'indian accent' in the cockpit..not everyone speaks like that you know...and also 'doing a 360' in converstional english means doing an about turn...saying something and then saying something the exact opposite!!! god!!!
i am just going by my experiences...
you might be a nice guy....but in general expats have to understand indian sentivities and culture....
the other day, i was flying with this british guy, and he seemed to think india was still a british colony going by his attitude to the crew and ground staff. on one more instance, one of the captains was making an absolute full of himself by imitating an 'indian accent' in the cockpit..not everyone speaks like that you know...and also 'doing a 360' in converstional english means doing an about turn...saying something and then saying something the exact opposite!!! god!!!
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Originally Posted by rookie_pilot
you dont have to get so personal...
and also 'doing a 360' in converstional english means doing an about turn...saying something and then saying something the exact opposite!!! god!!!
and also 'doing a 360' in converstional english means doing an about turn...saying something and then saying something the exact opposite!!! god!!!
Perhaps that may be so in your own special Indlish / Hinglish dictionary.
But according to several authoritative websites on ENGLISH , the proper word is 180. Do have a look:
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/defi...1557&dict=CALD
http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/180
Note also that there is no corresponding meaning for 360:
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/resu...searchword=360
http://thesaurus.reference.com/search?q=360
So are you still going to insist that all of us are wrong and only you are correct?
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Asian Frog and anyone else who is considerting taking the Indian ATPL exams, here are mock exam paper for NAV exam:
http://www.britflight.com/cons/India...le%20paper.pdf
http://www.britflight.com/cons/India...conversion.pdf
Good luck.
http://www.britflight.com/cons/India...le%20paper.pdf
http://www.britflight.com/cons/India...conversion.pdf
Good luck.
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PARAMOUNT
RISHWORTH HAS JUST ADVERTISED (MAY 29TH) FOR CREW FOR PARAMOUNT.CAPTAINS $7000 per month
F/O's $5000 " "
Of course the scum bags at rishworth are getting their cut from this also.
What next
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Logical progression. Was expected as soon as DGCA permitted expat F/Os to fly ATRs. Now field is open to all expat F/Os to fly in India on any type they are rated on. Are there no CPL freshers in India who can be inducted as Trainees and progress to F/Os?
Or is it that India is just not producing CPL holders to match the growth rate of airlines? In the long run if airlines in India do not open ab-initio training academies and induct cadet pilots they will suffer losses and their bottom lines will be affected badly.
Aeronotix.
Or is it that India is just not producing CPL holders to match the growth rate of airlines? In the long run if airlines in India do not open ab-initio training academies and induct cadet pilots they will suffer losses and their bottom lines will be affected badly.
Aeronotix.
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Training Indian Cadets
A lot of people are looking for training cadets for India, but setting up a Flying school of QUALITY is not an easy thing and implies very serious discussions at all level, and takes time. Such a thing must not be done in a rush. In the short term, India has no choice but hiring expats: it is the only reasonable way to find suitable qualified people. Then is coming the training of cadets: first India has to adapt its syllabus to modern Airliners, without decreasing the standard: it is a huge temptation to privilege numbers instead of quality. Results of poor standards are obvious through accident statistics unfortunately. (China in the previous years for example)
Already some used car sellers are promoting the Monkey Pilot Licence (MPL)as a miraculous cure to the pilot shortage. We have to stop them in spite heavy interests are behind.
And last thing, , CRMs told us that we have some different behaviors on the Flight deck due to our cultural differences, so it is a good prevention to get a ratio of mixed cultures in an Airlines, even in a wealthy situation:long time ago, Japanese have learnt that through series of accidents, unfortunately.
To be an Airlines Pilot is a wonderful INTERNATIONAL job, very rich because we can meet people of different races and cultures, everyday we learn and experience new things. But it is fundamental to respect each other through our diversity.
I fight the underlying racism I find in some posts on PPRUNE, I find this as particularly non relevant in our job. The exacerbed nationalism locking the jobs only to national participates to this underlying racism as the criticisms of some expats who must not forget they are guests and have to make the effort to understand the cultural difference.
As a conclusion, I am too old to fly now, but I transmit my knowledge to young generations and I expect I will train soon Indian cadets and other ones from other skies.
Cheers
Already some used car sellers are promoting the Monkey Pilot Licence (MPL)as a miraculous cure to the pilot shortage. We have to stop them in spite heavy interests are behind.
And last thing, , CRMs told us that we have some different behaviors on the Flight deck due to our cultural differences, so it is a good prevention to get a ratio of mixed cultures in an Airlines, even in a wealthy situation:long time ago, Japanese have learnt that through series of accidents, unfortunately.
To be an Airlines Pilot is a wonderful INTERNATIONAL job, very rich because we can meet people of different races and cultures, everyday we learn and experience new things. But it is fundamental to respect each other through our diversity.
I fight the underlying racism I find in some posts on PPRUNE, I find this as particularly non relevant in our job. The exacerbed nationalism locking the jobs only to national participates to this underlying racism as the criticisms of some expats who must not forget they are guests and have to make the effort to understand the cultural difference.
As a conclusion, I am too old to fly now, but I transmit my knowledge to young generations and I expect I will train soon Indian cadets and other ones from other skies.
Cheers
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Originally Posted by ASIAN FROG
To be an Airlines Pilot is a wonderful INTERNATIONAL job, very rich because we can meet people of different races and cultures, everyday we learn and experience new things. But it is fundamental to respect each other through our diversity.
I fight the underlying racism I find in some posts on PPRUNE, I find this as particularly non relevant in our job. The exacerbed nationalism locking the jobs only to national participates to this underlying racism as the criticisms of some expats who must not forget they are guests and have to make the effort to understand the cultural difference.
As a conclusion, I am too old to fly now, but I transmit my knowledge to young generations and I expect I will train soon Indian cadets and other ones from other skies.
Cheers
I fight the underlying racism I find in some posts on PPRUNE, I find this as particularly non relevant in our job. The exacerbed nationalism locking the jobs only to national participates to this underlying racism as the criticisms of some expats who must not forget they are guests and have to make the effort to understand the cultural difference.
As a conclusion, I am too old to fly now, but I transmit my knowledge to young generations and I expect I will train soon Indian cadets and other ones from other skies.
Cheers
I have been flying commercially for the last 20 years as an expat, in S.E.Asia, Africa and now in the South Pacific. I have never flown in my own country (India) and might never do so. I have never felt unwanted, some countries have different cultures and views,some were strange to me but it is their country, I am only a guest there to do a job and pass on my skills to their own people in return I got financial reward. Also I have made some good friends over the years and learnt about different cultures. I still get greeting card from friends I have made in various countries. Lets face it most Expats would not leave their home unless you made more money overseas then in your own country (my home is now Australia).
Lets stop this racism and be professional pilots.
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Yes xpat FO are welcome to apply...most airlines will ask for type rated but guys with 3000+ turbine or tubo time will get looked at for ATR and other turbo jobs.
Corp aviation is close to a stand still in India as well, they hire in xpat FO & Capts..type rated only
Corp aviation is close to a stand still in India as well, they hire in xpat FO & Capts..type rated only