What the hell is happening in MAS?
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It has never been the practice in MAS to make the persons responsible accountable for all the screw-ups that have occured over the years of its existence. This lack of accountability has led to a culture of irresponsible behaviour on the part of the senior managers who made the decisions that caused the airline to almost go belly-up. And yet not one manager has been made to pay the price. Why?
Like most staff I feel very strongly about MAS. It's been a major part of my life and my affection for the airline remains unabated even at this stage. Unfortunately my affection does not extend to those who caused this disaster. Why are these imbeciles still inhabiting their ivory towers and enjoying their luxury limos at our expense? Make them pay, and pay dearly.
6500 staff will be released at the end of the MSS exercise. Why? They were not responsible. But the ones that called the shots get off scot-free. What message does it send to all of us at the bottom of the food chain?
The staff have no confidence in the senior managers. They are the same ones that brought the airline to its knees. And they are the same ones who now tell the staff to pull up their socks. I would gladly remove my socks and shoes and shove them up their ***es!!!
I cry for you MAS.
Like most staff I feel very strongly about MAS. It's been a major part of my life and my affection for the airline remains unabated even at this stage. Unfortunately my affection does not extend to those who caused this disaster. Why are these imbeciles still inhabiting their ivory towers and enjoying their luxury limos at our expense? Make them pay, and pay dearly.
6500 staff will be released at the end of the MSS exercise. Why? They were not responsible. But the ones that called the shots get off scot-free. What message does it send to all of us at the bottom of the food chain?
The staff have no confidence in the senior managers. They are the same ones that brought the airline to its knees. And they are the same ones who now tell the staff to pull up their socks. I would gladly remove my socks and shoes and shove them up their ***es!!!
I cry for you MAS.
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I agree MAStake. I really do want to give this new MD and his team all the chance they need, but surely some heads aught to roll by now.
Sorry! I shouldn't have said that
Sorry! I shouldn't have said that
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It's interesting to note that the Camel, Doctorcon, Joseph and 001 did not have to pay for the way they destroyed Flight Operations Dept.
In the case of the latter he's still at it.
Da Toad is busy tending to horses and carrying luggage.
In the case of the latter he's still at it.
Da Toad is busy tending to horses and carrying luggage.
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the mad doctor has revealed that his half-past-six policies has created the problem of the half-past-six managers and half-past-six companies. so the half-past-six managers with their half-past-six MBA; can they be expected to do the right thing? their animal instincts are taking over. they want to preserve their species (their children). to do the right thing will mean pain and suffering for them. history tells us that in the end all their effort will fail.
so the elite half-past-six managers will cause untold suffering to the thousands in the months to come. they will not be punished. so live with it?
so the elite half-past-six managers will cause untold suffering to the thousands in the months to come. they will not be punished. so live with it?
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I heard MAS is going to "SELL" cabin crew to QR, interview is going on now, at the same time they are talking to SQ as well about the same deal, emmm........... wonder whether they are going to have a "MEGA-SALE" soon and pilots are included ..........
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I have personally had it with waiting for the heads to roll. If in the past I have taken the stance of. "lets wait and see" " Give the guy a chance".
Well, Now its really getting to be too late.
The post about the half pas six MBA's is what woke me up la.
Cause thats the whole truth. The right people for the job are still not doing it.
Well, Now its really getting to be too late.
The post about the half pas six MBA's is what woke me up la.
Cause thats the whole truth. The right people for the job are still not doing it.
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The fact is that the people in the office are all political appointees. They are not the most qualified or the most suitable. One of the recent appointee wants to be the youngest captain with the title of Datuk. This title comes from the state with most Datuk Captains.
Being political appointees, they will obey their political masters like the TOAD without question. And being politicians they make decisions based on politics. They label others as racists but all their decisions are race-based.
They will use crude methods, foul language to threaten others.
Every time a new MD/CEO/whatever take over MAS new projects are announce, new aircraft bought.
the 777
A380
5-star hotel in Langkawi.
new computer system
MSS
who benefits?
Being political appointees, they will obey their political masters like the TOAD without question. And being politicians they make decisions based on politics. They label others as racists but all their decisions are race-based.
They will use crude methods, foul language to threaten others.
Every time a new MD/CEO/whatever take over MAS new projects are announce, new aircraft bought.
the 777
A380
5-star hotel in Langkawi.
new computer system
MSS
who benefits?
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One of the recent appointee wants to be the youngest captain with the title of Datuk. This title comes from the state with most Datuk Captains.
Being political appointees, they will obey their political masters like the TOAD without question. And being politicians they make decisions based on politics. They label others as racists but all their decisions are race-based.
Being political appointees, they will obey their political masters like the TOAD without question. And being politicians they make decisions based on politics. They label others as racists but all their decisions are race-based.
Could that person you talking about by any chance be .......Hmmn......I don't think thats where the problems in mas are bro. By young, I can only assume that you may be refering to ...... He is difinitely not a proxy or a ball carrier bro.
In fact ....I must say "that office" for many many years has been quite impressive, company wide.
The pilots in the office have shown great courage. Of course there are a few who are in it for the "blaze of glory", but these few always go down that way, not up.
IMO , and its only that guys....an opinion based on the little that I know.....the problems in MAS are more deep rooted going way beyond the usual suspects. A good application of "roundup" is what will save the day.
The "cepat kaya" syndrome is alive and well.
cepat kaya= get rich quick.
This syndrome is unique in its own way in this country. Its nearly policy, and this is why this turnaround plan is going to have to be repeated again in the future. Unless and until they realise that the walking stick is actually making a criple out of a potential athlete, we are ALL going to be anchored down by dole mentality.
.....not realising that this is the foundation of all things corrupt. Yupp! the foundation is set.
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My dearest ex- colleagues,
So much grumblings, so much despair over so many years...
What are you guys waiting for? Those that have left since 1997, 1998, 1999 and so on have got on with their expat lives and doing well for themselves and their family.
Vote with your feet now!!! It will not change for the better even if you decide to hang on for a few more years. That's a few hundred thousand dollars down the tubes. Seriously, think about it. After all the world is such a small place now, you can always go home during the holidays. What's the worry???
So much grumblings, so much despair over so many years...
What are you guys waiting for? Those that have left since 1997, 1998, 1999 and so on have got on with their expat lives and doing well for themselves and their family.
Vote with your feet now!!! It will not change for the better even if you decide to hang on for a few more years. That's a few hundred thousand dollars down the tubes. Seriously, think about it. After all the world is such a small place now, you can always go home during the holidays. What's the worry???
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BTW, how good is the MSS?
Do you really think pilot is on the "go lists"? I don't think so!
The F-50 & Otter guys are more worried come 1st Aug. Has MAPA done anything concrete for them? Has Flt Ops really has anything for them?
Sorry, an outsider now, concern to my former colleagues.
BTW good luck guys...
Do you really think pilot is on the "go lists"? I don't think so!
The F-50 & Otter guys are more worried come 1st Aug. Has MAPA done anything concrete for them? Has Flt Ops really has anything for them?
Sorry, an outsider now, concern to my former colleagues.
BTW good luck guys...
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Hey there guys, im sure all the the guys are here looking at whats happenin back home. Well i'll fill u in with what i know at the moment.
MSS has been offered to ALL permanent staff in the company (labour law), now its up to the company to decide if they can release any of the pilots. I know of quite a number of them who have applied. As for the guys in SSB, they would all be brought back to KL (redeployment). All otter boys would be going right seat 737. Fokker capt's with seniority would go left seat and the rest right seat. Those who came down from wb might go back there. All stripped of 1 bar, and to maintain perks except for productivty.
I guess they dont have much of a choice, but its not to bad, considering all those people they had bypassed to get where they are now. AA has not been an option for them as they might just be put back on the fokker with AA, plus AA has stopped hiring direct entry 737 capts, some have been offered F/o's position with command prospect's subject to "recomendations". We all know what that means! So i guess this guys dont really have much of a choice. The new company in SSB is going to be operating out of MYY and BKI. $6000 otter capt, $9000 fokker capt.
MSS has been offered to ALL permanent staff in the company (labour law), now its up to the company to decide if they can release any of the pilots. I know of quite a number of them who have applied. As for the guys in SSB, they would all be brought back to KL (redeployment). All otter boys would be going right seat 737. Fokker capt's with seniority would go left seat and the rest right seat. Those who came down from wb might go back there. All stripped of 1 bar, and to maintain perks except for productivty.
I guess they dont have much of a choice, but its not to bad, considering all those people they had bypassed to get where they are now. AA has not been an option for them as they might just be put back on the fokker with AA, plus AA has stopped hiring direct entry 737 capts, some have been offered F/o's position with command prospect's subject to "recomendations". We all know what that means! So i guess this guys dont really have much of a choice. The new company in SSB is going to be operating out of MYY and BKI. $6000 otter capt, $9000 fokker capt.
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Oooo Thunder storm and Daaatoooo Bonsai will fill us with the bright future. Spend more money on I see a mess and upgrade some royal families. We be alright.
Don't worry. Stay on. Mas will and shall survive. It is the pride of the country.
Stop worrying and stop bickering. If you are Not happy !!! then ... leave.
My good friend once said " plenty of airline up north and down south "
Today that is also true but there are opportunities everywhere especially in Vietnam, Mideast,India and the usual KAL and Dynasty.
Leave MAPA alone man. They can't do much. Those guys are doing a pretty good job. I know all the exec council personally. It is the system.
MAS " mana ada system ? " It is true.
the new MD will have to use " round up " in order to turn aroung the company. The corruption is from top to bottom. The Chairman is full of s+++ and a free loader. A cheap charlie who potrays himself as a successful man. One thing for sure he is 267787.
Get on with your life
enjoy the flight always
Don't worry. Stay on. Mas will and shall survive. It is the pride of the country.
Stop worrying and stop bickering. If you are Not happy !!! then ... leave.
My good friend once said " plenty of airline up north and down south "
Today that is also true but there are opportunities everywhere especially in Vietnam, Mideast,India and the usual KAL and Dynasty.
Leave MAPA alone man. They can't do much. Those guys are doing a pretty good job. I know all the exec council personally. It is the system.
MAS " mana ada system ? " It is true.
the new MD will have to use " round up " in order to turn aroung the company. The corruption is from top to bottom. The Chairman is full of s+++ and a free loader. A cheap charlie who potrays himself as a successful man. One thing for sure he is 267787.
Get on with your life
enjoy the flight always
