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Go for it Sheep Guts 
I am very amazed with the amount of tantrums I read in this topic alone, I am new to this part of the forum and the bickering between members is unbelievable and I thought this kind of behaviour was only in D&G forums…
I am very amazed with the amount of tantrums I read in this topic alone, I am new to this part of the forum and the bickering between members is unbelievable and I thought this kind of behaviour was only in D&G forums…
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What does religion gotta do with aviation?????? Planes fly because of prayers??? Or planes crash into buildings because or prayers?????
The standard of cadets depends on the training school. If cadets have very good flying skills when recruited,do they need to be send for training at the flying school??? If MFA produces lousy pilots for MAS,AA or private students......you are just one of them (that's assuming you passed that 'lousy' course).
ahh I see...so it has nothing to with personal ability or the basic motivation of the students? What about the general malay thinking of "lets just do enough to get pass"?
What other choice to MAS or AA have? Malay government has stated pilots must be trained in malaysia since the 1997 crisis. Before they use to be sent overseas where they couldnt pass exams by cheating which in turn meant the cadets had to WORK to pass...
bck2basic I agree that it sucks that these low time expats are buying there way into AA. I means less jobs for us unless you are a cadet... But Malaysians are also expats too. Have a look at airlines over in the middle east...
MAS and AA have said time and time again that MFA is terrible. The students that come out of there are nothing short of PPL from other countries. But with DCA only allowing MFA and LATC to conduct commercial training, its seems the the quality of Malaysian pilots will continue to decline.
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So what are the the chances of a 500hr Ausie pilot with frozen Malay ATPL geting in??? should i waste my time converting my licence? and do you think they will only take type rated applicants?
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Dazza,
Without type rating - very slim. Chances on A320 nearly negligible - pretty much cadets from 2006 onwards (pass rate could change that). Chances on B733 also unlikely - F/Os in surplus right now to cover the changeover. Would only need more guys in the event of unplanned attrition.
Give it a go, but don't hold your breath.
Without type rating - very slim. Chances on A320 nearly negligible - pretty much cadets from 2006 onwards (pass rate could change that). Chances on B733 also unlikely - F/Os in surplus right now to cover the changeover. Would only need more guys in the event of unplanned attrition.
Give it a go, but don't hold your breath.
Join Date: Nov 2004
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Its a fact that MFA students regardless of batch are the nicest of people and the most useless pilots.
Blame it on the indian clowns running the academy, with the principal being an absolute waste of space.
Is that a general feature of Indian Air Force/ Ex-Indian Air Force pilots?
Plenty of decent and well-educated instructors there, but with inertia from the indian-clown-posse dragging their behind, absolutely nothing but liability on flight-safety is accomplished.
Instead of blaming EU/ AUS/ NZ-expats, some malay (read: DCA) should own up and clean the place up!
Blame it on the indian clowns running the academy, with the principal being an absolute waste of space.
Is that a general feature of Indian Air Force/ Ex-Indian Air Force pilots?
Plenty of decent and well-educated instructors there, but with inertia from the indian-clown-posse dragging their behind, absolutely nothing but liability on flight-safety is accomplished.
Instead of blaming EU/ AUS/ NZ-expats, some malay (read: DCA) should own up and clean the place up!
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Robert Palmer to lump a whole batch or even the whole lot in MFA as useless speaks volumes of your attitude
Can't agree fully abt the Indian GM and his attitude. During my tenure in MFA there were quite a number of expact (Aussie & Kiwi) Instructors who just couldn't digest the fact that the locals were headed for a prime jet job after their graduation and there had been instances where some students who weren't liked by one of them were given a hard time by the entire lot and even chopped in some instances.
To shoot at an entire race because you enounter of couple of rotten ones can't and shouldn't be justified. There are indeed rotten ones in every race Aussies,Kiwis,Brits,Indians,Chinese,Malays & on & on.........
Can't agree fully abt the Indian GM and his attitude. During my tenure in MFA there were quite a number of expact (Aussie & Kiwi) Instructors who just couldn't digest the fact that the locals were headed for a prime jet job after their graduation and there had been instances where some students who weren't liked by one of them were given a hard time by the entire lot and even chopped in some instances.
To shoot at an entire race because you enounter of couple of rotten ones can't and shouldn't be justified. There are indeed rotten ones in every race Aussies,Kiwis,Brits,Indians,Chinese,Malays & on & on.........
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B2B:
I didn't "shoot at an entire race", I asked a question based on personal experience.
As for "lumping" a whole batch as useless; I still believe the cadets generally were the nicest and most polite of people. However, rarely will a cadet become any better than the training that is afforded to him/ her. I also still believe the standards at MFA are sub-standard, and no effort is put towards improving, simply because the head-honchos wouldn't know a bowl of curry-rice from a nice set of standardized procedures.
Plenty of wasted potential in my opinion!
"through these doors blah, blah, blah"
I didn't "shoot at an entire race", I asked a question based on personal experience.
As for "lumping" a whole batch as useless; I still believe the cadets generally were the nicest and most polite of people. However, rarely will a cadet become any better than the training that is afforded to him/ her. I also still believe the standards at MFA are sub-standard, and no effort is put towards improving, simply because the head-honchos wouldn't know a bowl of curry-rice from a nice set of standardized procedures.
Plenty of wasted potential in my opinion!
"through these doors blah, blah, blah"
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RP - from the halls of MFA and Runway 03/21 at Batu Berendam - there have been graduates who are now serving with major airlines - including MH,SQ, EK,EY,AA....
It's not very polite to lump all cadets from MFA as duds.
10 years ago - you would get a batch of 10 - out of which 2 or 3 would be ace pilots, 2 duds and rest average to above average.
Nowadays - in a batch of 10 - you would be lucky to get 1 ace - 3 or 4 average and the rest duds.
It just speaks volumes of the selection process at MH or the overall prevailing dilemma of some of the youth in Malaysia - spoonfed and lazy.
There were instructors from Malaysia, India and New Zealand as well 10 years ago. Only 2 twins, 5 singles and 60 students - private and sponsored.
It's not very polite to lump all cadets from MFA as duds.
10 years ago - you would get a batch of 10 - out of which 2 or 3 would be ace pilots, 2 duds and rest average to above average.
Nowadays - in a batch of 10 - you would be lucky to get 1 ace - 3 or 4 average and the rest duds.
It just speaks volumes of the selection process at MH or the overall prevailing dilemma of some of the youth in Malaysia - spoonfed and lazy.
There were instructors from Malaysia, India and New Zealand as well 10 years ago. Only 2 twins, 5 singles and 60 students - private and sponsored.
