SIA cadet pilot (Merged - Again!).
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Dear sq111,
you mean you had friends who NEVER got called back? Not even a rejection letter or call or email? Gosh, that sucks.
what about the guys you said had to wait more than 9 months? Were they called up in the end? Are they Flying now?
eng80616, I know what you went through. Cos I was in the same interview as you lah. I'm sure you know who i am now. haha.
yessir!
you mean you had friends who NEVER got called back? Not even a rejection letter or call or email? Gosh, that sucks.
what about the guys you said had to wait more than 9 months? Were they called up in the end? Are they Flying now?
eng80616, I know what you went through. Cos I was in the same interview as you lah. I'm sure you know who i am now. haha.
yessir!
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Hey Edwink,
How come you don't know what engines an SQ -400 has?
Even a school boy with Binos at changi will know!! Better bone up man you wont get an easier question.
Stanby for this one:if winglets [i.e -400] were the greatest thing since slice bread,why does the 777 not have them??.
On the question of renumeration, I can't get over the fact that a CX cabin crew gets S$6000 basic...
How come you don't know what engines an SQ -400 has?
Even a school boy with Binos at changi will know!! Better bone up man you wont get an easier question.
Stanby for this one:if winglets [i.e -400] were the greatest thing since slice bread,why does the 777 not have them??.
On the question of renumeration, I can't get over the fact that a CX cabin crew gets S$6000 basic...
Mooney baby, lighten up on Edwink - would think that he did his homework but was caught out by the "slang" used in the interview. Used around ops you can hear the follwing, to say "I am on B747 -400". The 744, the 400, the 44, the jumbo, the old girl and some times the dinosaur.
Edwink you should not be worried about it. Now, if they had asked you how many engines does a B777 have and you answered 3, then that may be cause for concern.
Mooney - good question on the winglets - many companies are retrofitting their 737's with winglets so why did Boeing not put them on the 777?? Wish I knew because I fly the thing, and going on about odd things, most big aircraft have fuel tanks in the horizontal stab. The B777 is classed as a big aircraft, the 300 ( here we go with the slang again - the B777-300) fuselage is actually longer than the 744, unyet there are no fuel tanks in the tail. Any theories on why??
Edwink you should not be worried about it. Now, if they had asked you how many engines does a B777 have and you answered 3, then that may be cause for concern.
Mooney - good question on the winglets - many companies are retrofitting their 737's with winglets so why did Boeing not put them on the 777?? Wish I knew because I fly the thing, and going on about odd things, most big aircraft have fuel tanks in the horizontal stab. The B777 is classed as a big aircraft, the 300 ( here we go with the slang again - the B777-300) fuselage is actually longer than the 744, unyet there are no fuel tanks in the tail. Any theories on why??
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i have a serious question to ask:
I was told that there are cases a candidate who failed for the final interview of cadet pilot still can reapply after certain years and they got in finally. Has the policy changed or is there any kind soul i can approach to get help on this?
My case is very complicated, wish i can have some advice/help.
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hope it helps:
777 was not designed with winglets (only 747 got). At the time Boeing chose to increase the span of the wing rather than add winglets.
As increased span also increases wing aspect ratio [another measure of efficiency] Boeing outlined the addition of winglets did not overcome the weight penalty of carrying winglets.
Sources have since shown that increasing the span of the wing by 4/5 of the height of the winglet will have a similar effect on induced drag as a winglet, though without the added complexities of extra outboard structure, extra weight and extra cost.
The 777 concept is broken down as follows: increased span would result in a higher aspect ratio that would improve the take-off, climb and cruise performance of the airplane without adding winglets. This requires less structural re-enforcement, lower outboard bending moments [which are of particular interest for twinjet design] and reduced construction and maintenance expenditure.
I was told that there are cases a candidate who failed for the final interview of cadet pilot still can reapply after certain years and they got in finally. Has the policy changed or is there any kind soul i can approach to get help on this?
My case is very complicated, wish i can have some advice/help.
best regards
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hope it helps:
777 was not designed with winglets (only 747 got). At the time Boeing chose to increase the span of the wing rather than add winglets.
As increased span also increases wing aspect ratio [another measure of efficiency] Boeing outlined the addition of winglets did not overcome the weight penalty of carrying winglets.
Sources have since shown that increasing the span of the wing by 4/5 of the height of the winglet will have a similar effect on induced drag as a winglet, though without the added complexities of extra outboard structure, extra weight and extra cost.
The 777 concept is broken down as follows: increased span would result in a higher aspect ratio that would improve the take-off, climb and cruise performance of the airplane without adding winglets. This requires less structural re-enforcement, lower outboard bending moments [which are of particular interest for twinjet design] and reduced construction and maintenance expenditure.
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Someone from Boeing told me that it was omitted because they simply built a more efficient wing on the 777. but then how about the positive effect of the winglet reducing wing-tip vortices and drag?
Anyway I found the answer "they don't want to look like Airbus'' was pretty good!!
No offence intended Edwink, just that I hated to think you gave them reasons to put your name in the 'OUT' tray.
Anyway I found the answer "they don't want to look like Airbus'' was pretty good!!
No offence intended Edwink, just that I hated to think you gave them reasons to put your name in the 'OUT' tray.
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Yeah, maybe i should have done more homework and find out more about the "Slangs" they use before going for the inteview. Shucks, rejection is on the way, guess i will just have to reapply and try my luck again. Thanks guys
someone told me that the 1st interview is actually the hardest to get past. Once past, the rest of the interviews are actually much easier. What do you guys think?
someone told me that the 1st interview is actually the hardest to get past. Once past, the rest of the interviews are actually much easier. What do you guys think?
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Dear Edwink25,
the fist interviews are not easy because there are many people who apply. The attrition rate for the first interview is very high because honestly a lot of them just don't meet the mark.
But the second interview is definitely harder to pass. Think about it. If the second round is easier than the first wouldn't everyone who passed the first round also pass the second round?
The second round interview i went through saw some people being cut. I think there were 9 of us who went, only 6 made it. And out of these 6 so far only 4 have started the course.
Doesn't make sense to have a second round if it were easier than the first round, does it?
the fist interviews are not easy because there are many people who apply. The attrition rate for the first interview is very high because honestly a lot of them just don't meet the mark.
But the second interview is definitely harder to pass. Think about it. If the second round is easier than the first wouldn't everyone who passed the first round also pass the second round?
The second round interview i went through saw some people being cut. I think there were 9 of us who went, only 6 made it. And out of these 6 so far only 4 have started the course.
Doesn't make sense to have a second round if it were easier than the first round, does it?
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Hi,
I've just attended the first interview last Thur (12/Aug/04).
Has SIA contacted anyone (who attended the interview last week) to attend the second interview so far? Am praying real hard for them to call me though i think i could have done better. Not very promising though.....
Thanks. Just wanna guage if i do stand a chance still.
I've just attended the first interview last Thur (12/Aug/04).
Has SIA contacted anyone (who attended the interview last week) to attend the second interview so far? Am praying real hard for them to call me though i think i could have done better. Not very promising though.....
Thanks. Just wanna guage if i do stand a chance still.
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Yessir,
Yup of coz usually 2nd interviews are harder...but thats what the 2nd officers at the interview registration told me... anyway, what i think they meant is that we will face the meanest and strictest (humans) in the 1st interview, that is why it is the hardest.....as for the 2nd - 3rd interviews...i guess its totally up to our own abilities and at least we dont have to worry about the interviewees?
PWB,
i was at the interview too on thursday, how was yours?
a B744 or 400 is using PW4056 engines....well ...abit too late now....damn~
Yup of coz usually 2nd interviews are harder...but thats what the 2nd officers at the interview registration told me... anyway, what i think they meant is that we will face the meanest and strictest (humans) in the 1st interview, that is why it is the hardest.....as for the 2nd - 3rd interviews...i guess its totally up to our own abilities and at least we dont have to worry about the interviewees?
PWB,
i was at the interview too on thursday, how was yours?
a B744 or 400 is using PW4056 engines....well ...abit too late now....damn~
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Edwink25,
Think mine not very promising.... the interviewers actually asked me to step out of the room after 10mins of interview and then going back again for another 10-15 mins.... said they just needed to check/ discuss something.... asked abt types of engine fitted on SIA fleet too... just praying hard now. Do let me know if you are called up... then i roughly know my chances too....
Dear all,
Anyone has got similiar experience/ heard something like that before too? Can advise on the reason/ probability of being called for the second interview, pls. Thanks.
Think mine not very promising.... the interviewers actually asked me to step out of the room after 10mins of interview and then going back again for another 10-15 mins.... said they just needed to check/ discuss something.... asked abt types of engine fitted on SIA fleet too... just praying hard now. Do let me know if you are called up... then i roughly know my chances too....
Dear all,
Anyone has got similiar experience/ heard something like that before too? Can advise on the reason/ probability of being called for the second interview, pls. Thanks.
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mooney59
Oh, for no particular reason. I just love it when pompous wannabes (like yourself) show off their 'technical knowledge' of aircrafts, particularly the one I'm flying.
Hey chill out man.Four PW's.
Out of curiousity why do you want to know?
Out of curiousity why do you want to know?
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