SIA cadet pilot (Merged - Again!).
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Hi SQ111,
You mean one can just apply before any advert. on recruitment? I downloaded the application form already though and what shd I indicate under the source? heheh.....leave it blank or??? Isit essential or can just leave blank?Advise again.Thanks.
cheers
You mean one can just apply before any advert. on recruitment? I downloaded the application form already though and what shd I indicate under the source? heheh.....leave it blank or??? Isit essential or can just leave blank?Advise again.Thanks.
cheers
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Hi sq111,
I have cleared my 2nd interview in Feb but was told to wait until Oct for my eyes (went for Lasik 4 mths before the interview) to stabilise before they send me for the medical test. Out of curiousity, does SIA have any requirement for before Lasik eye power (must be below 500 degrees b4 Lasik or something like that).
Thanks!
I have cleared my 2nd interview in Feb but was told to wait until Oct for my eyes (went for Lasik 4 mths before the interview) to stabilise before they send me for the medical test. Out of curiousity, does SIA have any requirement for before Lasik eye power (must be below 500 degrees b4 Lasik or something like that).
Thanks!
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Hi sq111,
Thanks for your prompt reply! Guess the only thing that I can do now is to wait....
Anyway, do you know what is the average attrition rates (kenna chopped) for cadet pilots?
Best wishes
Thanks for your prompt reply! Guess the only thing that I can do now is to wait....
Anyway, do you know what is the average attrition rates (kenna chopped) for cadet pilots?
Best wishes
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chopping rate varies.
I've seen batches with 60% chopped. But there are those high quality ones where 100% make it.
don't bother abt chopping, if u can, u can.
But even when qualified as FO, you may not be spared the chop, SQ6 is one eg, plus there are those who fail their medical or base check, then same thing, out u go..., even if u are captain.
There are even cases where cadets got chopped during OBS, ie not even training yet. eg, if u show signs of seasickness during sailing at OBS, good luck.
I've seen batches with 60% chopped. But there are those high quality ones where 100% make it.
don't bother abt chopping, if u can, u can.
But even when qualified as FO, you may not be spared the chop, SQ6 is one eg, plus there are those who fail their medical or base check, then same thing, out u go..., even if u are captain.
There are even cases where cadets got chopped during OBS, ie not even training yet. eg, if u show signs of seasickness during sailing at OBS, good luck.
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Hi sq111,
U mean one can still get chopped when one becomes a FO or Captain? Sounds scary.... Besides due to medical grounds, what other reasons are there to chop a FO or Captain?
2 of my friends have also applied for cadet pilot, they have cleared the interview and medical tests in March, however, up to now they have not been called up to commence training. Do you know the reason why? Normally, how long is it between the medical test and commencement of training?
Once again, thank you very much for answering my questions.
U mean one can still get chopped when one becomes a FO or Captain? Sounds scary.... Besides due to medical grounds, what other reasons are there to chop a FO or Captain?
2 of my friends have also applied for cadet pilot, they have cleared the interview and medical tests in March, however, up to now they have not been called up to commence training. Do you know the reason why? Normally, how long is it between the medical test and commencement of training?
Once again, thank you very much for answering my questions.
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U mean one can still get chopped when one becomes a FO or Captain? Sounds scary.... Besides due to medical grounds, what other reasons are there to chop a FO or Captain?
U mean one can still get chopped when one becomes a FO or Captain? Sounds scary.... Besides due to medical grounds, what other reasons are there to chop a FO or Captain?
), other reasons can include 1. Pissing management off (e.g. parking at your chief pilot's reserved parking lot)
2. Groping a stewardess/steward
3. Having an 'attitude' problem
4. Bouncing your cheques
5. Late for work/Missed a flight
6. Not contactable during standby period
7. Flying while intoxicated
And the list goes on and on and on......
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OBS for Singapore Airlines cadets?
Congratulations.. seems like every batch for the rest of the year (or forever) will be going to OBS - Lumut in M'sia.
Where the main activities for 21 facinating weeks will be:
i) burning leeches
ii) burning coils to get rid of mosquitoes
iii) fighting with monkeys that love to just raid your bunk for food
iv) climbing the hundred odd steps up to your bunk daily.
Did I mention the leeches?
You'll make friends for the rest of your life with your course mates anyway.
Congratulations.. seems like every batch for the rest of the year (or forever) will be going to OBS - Lumut in M'sia.
Where the main activities for 21 facinating weeks will be:
i) burning leeches
ii) burning coils to get rid of mosquitoes
iii) fighting with monkeys that love to just raid your bunk for food
iv) climbing the hundred odd steps up to your bunk daily.
Did I mention the leeches?
You'll make friends for the rest of your life with your course mates anyway.
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I hv been waiting for a while now after the 1st interview for SIA to contact me and they still hvnt. It will be exactly 4 weeks 2moro. Do u think i got rejected? do they let u know if u r rejected or they just dont contact u at all? *worried*
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For my case, the HR person told me that I will be informed in 2 weeks time if I fail my 1st interview. So if u did not hear from them, it is most probably good news & they may be scheduling u for the 2nd interview. I have know of cases where one wait for 2 mths between their 1st & 2nd interview....
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You mean now no more OBS at UBIN??? But Lumut not too bad lah, during this period even better. Very dry so no chance for leeches
Used to be Pulau Ubin and Lumut alternate. I was "sian" when I was called for OBS Lumut that time. But it doesn't seem too bad, except that you get "monkeys" to mess up your bunk every night. (Instructors there will tell u its monkeys, but everyone knows its them)
Oh yes, thanks for reminding me the daily climb to the bunk.
No mobile phones allowed. very strict discipline esp u are from SIA.
OBS is not for you to shine as an individual. If you outshine others but dun show teamwork and attitude problem, hee hee,good luck to you too. If you seasick, also good luck.
SQ22 just landed at Newark 3 hours ago, completing the world's longest commercial flight. Non-stop from Singapore to New York.
Prestige? Try flying this A345 for 18 hours almost every flight, you'll be bored to death.
You mean now no more OBS at UBIN??? But Lumut not too bad lah, during this period even better. Very dry so no chance for leeches
Used to be Pulau Ubin and Lumut alternate. I was "sian" when I was called for OBS Lumut that time. But it doesn't seem too bad, except that you get "monkeys" to mess up your bunk every night. (Instructors there will tell u its monkeys, but everyone knows its them)
Oh yes, thanks for reminding me the daily climb to the bunk.
No mobile phones allowed. very strict discipline esp u are from SIA.
OBS is not for you to shine as an individual. If you outshine others but dun show teamwork and attitude problem, hee hee,good luck to you too. If you seasick, also good luck.
SQ22 just landed at Newark 3 hours ago, completing the world's longest commercial flight. Non-stop from Singapore to New York.
Prestige? Try flying this A345 for 18 hours almost every flight, you'll be bored to death.
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ETOPS??
1) Can someone be kind enough to explain to me in detail what does ETOPS stand for and what it does?
2) What is ETOPS for 777 & A345?
3) Also what does RAT stand for and what it does? Does A345 has RAT as well?
Thanks.
wombob78
1) Also, what are some of the major differences of B777 & A345?
(excluding all the external features & engines).
(ie. the way both flies, which has a better turbulent control than the other and why?)
Thanks.
wombob78
2) What is ETOPS for 777 & A345?
3) Also what does RAT stand for and what it does? Does A345 has RAT as well?
Thanks.
wombob78
1) Also, what are some of the major differences of B777 & A345?
(excluding all the external features & engines).
(ie. the way both flies, which has a better turbulent control than the other and why?)
Thanks.
wombob78
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ETOPS refers to extended Twin operations.
A345 is not affected by ETOPS cos its 4 engine.
B777 is due to 2 engines. Basically, to operate a twin engine commercial airliner, the nearest suitable landing airport have to be less than 180mins away. This is a backup in case one engine failed.
A345 is not affected cos in event one engine failed, there are 3 more to go.
A345 control is via stick (aka fighter jets) and B777 via yoke (like a steering wheel)
B777 is designed by CAD (computer aided design)
B777 seems to be more efficient
A345 is not affected by ETOPS cos its 4 engine.
B777 is due to 2 engines. Basically, to operate a twin engine commercial airliner, the nearest suitable landing airport have to be less than 180mins away. This is a backup in case one engine failed.
A345 is not affected cos in event one engine failed, there are 3 more to go.
A345 control is via stick (aka fighter jets) and B777 via yoke (like a steering wheel)
B777 is designed by CAD (computer aided design)
B777 seems to be more efficient
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so if the B777 is governed by 180 mins. ETOPS, does that mean that the B777 can only travel to airport as far as 3 hours away?
Or it only applies when the B777 has one engine failure?
Like the ETOPS 180 mins. only apply whe
Or it only applies when the B777 has one engine failure?
Like the ETOPS 180 mins. only apply whe
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No. B777 can travel anywhere the range allows but their flying route must be supported by a suitable landing airport which has to be no more than 180mins away. B777 can still fly 8 hours LHR to JFK (london to new york) so long as there is an suitable landing strip within 180mins. Eg, if the Transatlantic flight of 4 hours has no other island, the B777 technically cannot fly this route cos at the 4 hour mark, the nearest airport (the destination) is 4 hours away. However, if there is an island with a suitable landing strip along the way (say at mid point) then no problem.
Nobody plans an engine failure. So even there is no engine failure on the B777, ETOPS applies. ETOPS is only in event of engine failure, but the aircraft must stick to ETOPS rules even if both engines are running smoothly
Nobody plans an engine failure. So even there is no engine failure on the B777, ETOPS applies. ETOPS is only in event of engine failure, but the aircraft must stick to ETOPS rules even if both engines are running smoothly