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holdmetight 29th Jan 2010 11:36

CXCPP vs KACPP
 
To my understanding, the actual ab initio training received by KA and CX cadets in Adelaide is the same, however differences lie in the following items:

1. ICAO English
CX requires candidates to complete the ICAO english test prior to joining cadet training, while KA cadets undergo the english test following completion of training in ADL and their return to HKG.

2. Flight Grading
CX Flight Grading is divided into two categories, depending on the level of experience of a candidate. They are:
a. Basic Grading - 7 flights in Grob115A, focusing on BAC. For applicants with <20 hours TT.
b. Advanced Grading - 3 flights in Grob115A, focusing on assessing candidates' existing flying skills. 3 sorties in sim, with basic Instrument flying.

KA Flight Grading is divided into two categories, also depending on the level of experience of a candidate. They are:
a. Basic Grading - 7 flights in Grob115A, focusing on BAC. For applicants with <20 hours TT.
b. Advanced Grading - 7 flights in Grob115A, also focusing on BAC. Plus 3 flights in CAP10 aerobatic aircraft.

3. Career Prospects in HKG
Following returning to HKG, CX cadets undergo ground school for their respective fleets, and are trained just like any other new F/O, except they are not given base training and following check-to-line, they become official S/Os and are relief cruise pilots.

As for KA cadets, they undergo ground school for their assigned Airbus aircraft, but are also given base training. Following check-to-line, they operate under the rank of S/O but actually execute the duties of an F/O. The difference is that they are not allowed to control the aircraft below a certain limitation in wx condition, something that will change as they are promoted to JF/O and above.

All this is what I have learned from various sources. As with everything else on this forum, read it and take it with a pinch of salt. Having said that though, please feel free to correct any errors that I might have made. Good luck to everyone applying!

myhitomi 30th Jan 2010 08:10

Just wonder how KA contact short-listed applicants?

via email or phone?

Thx:ok:

holdmetight 30th Jan 2010 09:07

You get your Initial Test invitation via e-mail. If successful in subsequent assessments you will be contacted by phone. I have heard that unsuccessful candidates are simply ignored and not given any form of rejection.

flapsupdown 30th Jan 2010 13:11

holdmetight, your post is pretty accurate - just wanted to add a few things.

There is no more "intermediate" flight grading for CX

Also, the training received as a cadet in Adelaide is exactly the same, whether you are from CX or KA

Outward Bound is a thing of the past, and will not be a part of the program anymore.

And yes, as you mentioned, KA cadets graduate to become "flying" Second Officers whereas CX cadets graduate just to become a relief pilot (second officer)

myhitomi 30th Jan 2010 14:00

Thx for your reply.

I have submitted my application in late Dec but still haven't heard anything from KA yet.

Hope they will contact me soon.:ok:

holdmetight 30th Jan 2010 14:27

Thanks flapsupdown for your information, I have corrected my post accordingly.

myhitomi - do you have flying experience?

myhitomi 30th Jan 2010 14:37

holdmetight, I have 15 hour flight training experience in Australia.
Why?

cadetpilotwannabe 30th Jan 2010 14:43

myhitomi
 
myhitomi

Are you Hong Kong resident? Did you apply CX as well?

myhitomi 30th Jan 2010 14:44

To cadetpilotwannabe:

Yes, I'm hk resident and I have applied both CPP

holdmetight 30th Jan 2010 14:45

myhitomi
 
The reason I asked you about your flying background is because KA are not responding to applicants with CPL and above, for some unknown reason. Is this your first application then?

myhitomi 30th Jan 2010 14:48

this time is my 2nd attempt

cadetpilotwannabe 30th Jan 2010 15:10

I applied both KA and CX as well. Good to know you here~ you can add my msn~ PM u already

Optimistic_pilot 30th Jan 2010 15:27

Hello myhitomi! Which stage of KA cpp did you fail before?

myhitomi 31st Jan 2010 00:23

Initial test:eek:

cf680c2b 31st Jan 2010 16:29

Are the written tests for cx, ka, and ahk the same? What kind of questions are on these tests?

Ray7781 1st Feb 2010 07:41

Just wonder if you guys have received any respond from KA after your initial test on late Jan.

I’m like an ant inside a hot pot!!

holdmetight 1st Feb 2010 08:07


Just wonder if you guys have received any respond from KA after your initial test on late Jan.
Negative. Don't know of anyone who has heard back from them either, I guess we'll find out tomorrow!

myhitomi 1st Feb 2010 11:09

Ray7781

When did u submit your application?

I've been waiting for almost 1 month

ezscript 1st Feb 2010 14:37

Are you sure they dont send candidates any rejection email? :eek:

Ray7781 2nd Feb 2010 01:11

myhitomi

done with my application on early Jan! Don't give up, !!

We all here to bear up....

sound out if anyone got respond!


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