Stage I Ques
 

Dear Ppruners,

A friend of mine was asked this question during an interview but then he was told that his answer isn't convincing enough. May I please ask for your inputs; as to how would you go about answering this question?

Why is a turboprop most efficient at medium altitudes and turbojet/turbofan at high altitudes?

I request all those who're flying turboprops or Jets to share too.

Thanking all in advance.

TW

ok please anyone who is know how long it is takes to hear first times from cathay after this first application submitted? ok please answer ok i am waited 3 weeks and not hear anything!!! ok is it this normal? do i get reject? :ugh: ok thanks for answers.

Similar boat as CX-A330 here. I sent mine off on the 1st of June and am still yet to hear anything. Has anyone else received any contact within this time frame?

Captain Weird - your comment concerns me! When did you apply?

Any Chance in the future?
 

Well I had my chance with the stage 1 interview on the 19th. I worked so hard to learn everything from the JKI booklet and prepared myself as best I could but I walked away that day thinking I'd only performed 'okay' in the interview. I thought I may still have a chance to progress.

I did not make it through to stage 2. I have no flying experience except for PC sim's and my rejection email said I did not meet the required standard to proceed onto stage 2. I would like to find out what I failed on, and work on it for my next application.

Does anyone think an aspiring cadet pilot can still be accepted onto a CPP without flying experience after failing the stage 1?

Is their rejection email a standard form email?

yaa me 2oo even I had applied few month back and I just got a reply stating that we would call you for the next selection process . Anyone has any idea when is the next selection process.

Hi Faster stronger
 

May be we can add this points also
* Gas turbine engines are most efficient when their compressors are operating at high RPM i.e 90-95%
*The high RPM achieves the best specific fuel consumption.
*At high altitude the cruise airframe drag is minimum.
*The TAS is also higher for a constant IAS.

Heyyy Everyone

I applied online for the Cathay second officer cadetship in February and haven’t heard anything back. How long does it normally take for them to get back to you?

Also I’m from Adelaide and I know the first round that will be in Adelaide since February will be in November. How much notice will I get if I’m offered an interview?

Thanks :)

Does anyone know how much flying is involved in the 30 week course? Solo etc?

Many thanks,

VFE.

Any body know of any good practice maths tests similar to the ones they use at Cathay in stage 2 that are around either in books or online?

Cheers

waiting
 

Hi,

Does anyone know how long it takes for CX to get back to you. I've been waiting almost 3 weeks after my stage 2-3 in hong kong to find out the result.

Thanks

Jon

My experience

Filled in the application in September and got a phone call from a man in Hong Kong in February.

To be fair I completely forgot about it.

I've been waiting almost 6 weeks after my stage 2/3 so you may be in for a wait! I know of others who have been/are in the same boat. On the other hand, some have heard after two weeks. I'm thinking maybe it's the medical process that is holding it up. :confused:

Hi guys I have some questions:

I've been following this thread for quit a while and I have still some questions. The most selection takers say that you don't have to learn only the JKI but more things. I've read about CX, the fleet, destinations, HKG about itself. But what more? Where can I find more technically details? Which books? I've bought the book 'Handling the Big Jets' but it is quit hard because I don't have any flight experience and never read very technically things. Where can I start?

And are there some people out here who are already been invited for Amsterdam?

Ok i am waited for the cathy to replied to my applications ok, i am waited too much this is normal? Ok is it anybodies else in same as psitions as myslef? I am hope to received this invitations by cathay for the stages 1 2 3 4 5. Is anybodies knows much about this new stage 5?

Whoop whoop wind-up alert! Whoop whoop wind-up alert!

Just saying..
 

Hi Guys,

I did the stage 1 in London on 8th July, a few weeks on I've heard naff all apart from an e-mail asking for the medical form again. I hope that no news is good news!!! So it looks like I'm joining the CX waiting club!:confused:

Hi there biggsywiggsy, how did your stage 1 go? Can you maybe post sone things what you have experienced? Like questions, maybe some tips and tricks? Which plane did they put on the table?

@Barney: I did already all the things you said, except where I can find the right information. Already know the things about Hong Kong, Cathay Pacific, Flight Training (& Facilities) and things like that. I have already a JAA basic book (PDF) but I don't know which chapters I need to read. Just read some of the beginnings, some chapters which are related to the chapters from the JKI?

Are you serious?
 

You ARE kidding, right?

Seriously - if you can't identify which aircraft is used in the screening interview, you've no business in this profession.

My Lord, help us all.

Thank you very much for your very big so big input and answering my question! -.-

A tristar.

Ok my englishes is not the good but i am the passion about these cadet program offered by cathay ok i am worked hard to improves my weekness that is what cathay is looking for!!:ugh: and i know there is the stages 5 because my good friends hamzah says there it is stages 5 which is involves the "advanced psycometric test" ok so get your facts right before laying to us!!

CX A330

They really do require a standard of English higher than what you seem it have. In fact, it's a licensing requirement to speak GOOD English.

Unless your spoken English language ability is better than what you seem to be able to write, here's what your priorities may (should) be:

1. Learn to speak English. It's a difficult language. You may need help. It's not the sort of language that is easily learned from reading.
2. Apply to the program if it's what you want to do.

If you apply without the language skills required, you most certainly will be rejected. Guaranteed not to get past initial screening. Fail.

Online translation programs like babelfish and google translate are ok for single words, but fail badly when it's complicated. Are you using online translation? Perhaps if you posted questions in your native language there may be guys in CX who can help you.

The way you are posting now may seem sincere to you but to many it's comical (funny) and so no one will take you seriously. They think it's a joke.

Good luck.

Well said underpants. Does anybody happen to have a .pdf copy of the Ravens Progressive Matrices, if it even exists? Or a hard copy they are willing to sell?

Tupps

thanks for the advices Cpt.Underpants i am speaked the good english (i hope!) but to write the engilish it is hard but i am worked hard to improve and i will make it to the cathay :ok: i am not use the translations but it may help now ha ha ha.

using translations:

wie lange dauert es, um wettbewerbsfähig zu sein in verbindung anderen airlines?

how long does it take to be competitive in other connecting airlines?

from the cathay cadet to other airlines i am meaning to say

DANKE :ok: (thanks you)

:D:}

Terrific.

CX-A330

Great, I think I know what you're trying to ask...

As a S/O (second officer) - after you join CX, you can plan on at least 4 years as a S/O.

It can be as much as 5 years, but expect at least 4 years.

The hours you "fly" as a second officer "count" for almost nothing for a higher licence. The ratio of actual hours flown to hours counting is 1:4. Assume you "fly" 650 hours each year for 4 years, all you will count to a higher licence is 650 hours.

OK, assume you convert to Junior First Officer after 4 years, but the time your conversion is finished, you will have about 300 hours as JFO, 650 hours as S/O and 240 hours from your cadet program, total 1190 hours.

You need about 2500 hours to be competitive for other airlines, that would mean an additional 1300 hours as a F/O, about another 2 years.

Your total time in CX would be about 6 years, the same time as the bond ends.

I hope this answers your question.

Good luck and well done!

hi
 

Does that mean that after you join Cx you have to wait for 4 years as a S/O, that is too long i guess in comparison to my national carrier ,

That's correct. 4 to 5 years (some are saying up to 6 years) from the time you finish your training in ADL.

so do they pay a salary for the S/O during that time and that 6 years do you hav to stay in adelaid or after you get your CPL and the type reating do they make you fly in the cockpit

Thanks for the update, Goebbels.

so in our national carrier you can becoe a captain in 8 years total , so if you have to wait as a s/o for 6 years then how long wil it take to be a captain, and how much do they pay you as a s/o

He could be correct.

There IS going to be dramatic market reaction to the Moody's AAA downgrade. My guess is the HSI will lose >2500 points in the next week or so, >10000 points in the medium term.

When markets fall, bankerwankers stop traveling. Our (CX) front end is mostly financial sector, and a hit there will certainly scale back growth.

There may be some "rightsizing" on the horizon.

Whatever happens next (I'm no guru), we haven't seen the worst of the "crisis".

"This isn't the end. This isn't even the beginning of the end. However, this is the end of the beginning..."

Hi all...

Thanks for capt underpants for sharing good info regarding your last posting and it makes me to think more optimist for me to join CX and i am ready with those kind on of period as S/O.

Last 2 weeks ago, i just apply the cadet program and hope they can take to consideration us who applied the program.

thanks

In the past Cathay offered 2 month Temp. basing's for SO, is that still available?
Or should a SO commute to Europe when he wants to fly back home?

CXs' basings program is in complete disarray. Lack of company oversight and fiduciary responsibility has caused a multitude of legal violations which Cathay is reluctant to accept liability for.

In short, ALL new bases are suspended until further notice. This applies to temp bases as well.

Commuting should not even be on your options list. Here's why:

Cost. CX has the worlds' most expensive staff travel. Your salary will simply not allow you the discretionary spending that commuting demands.

Staff travel policies. It will take you up to a year to even qualify for some levels of staff travel. When you DO qualify, you're bottom of the list. When I say bottom, I mean EVERY spouse, child and dependent of everyone above your "date of joining" will be ahead of you. Your seniority might reflect 3,000 on the pilots list but in reality you'll be more like 50,000. Fact, not hyperbole.

Fatigue. Do not think for a minute that CX is not intent on extracting it's "pound of flesh". You will be tired. Thinking of sleeping on your way back? Forget about it. Economy class (that's what you'll be flying) is shockingly uncomfortable, with torturous seats and no legroom. You'll be on the middle seat too. Next to a mainland lady with marginal incontinence and body odor. And a complete lack of social awareness - shouting excited conversation to her family three rows back.

Jumpseats. Limited availability and snapped up like hotcakes. Most captains (myself included) hold off on jumpseat allocation until operating crew members have first option for companions, followed by known colleagues. Again, bottom of the list.

In short, you're in HKG for a while. If you can't get your head around that, reconsider.

Out.

I second Underpants. Also:

Tax. After the 49ers debacle, tax authorities around the world had their attention drawn to based CX crew (another reason basings are suspended through, as I've said previously, amateurish and under resourced base administration).

Word is, the Australian Taxation Office is coming after commuters. The tax, immigration etc. computers now all talk to each other, you can run but you can't hide.

Cpt. Underpants
not sure if this is true but regarding your post about hour transfer for licensing i remember reading from a link posted in one of the previous replies that yes S/O hours are considered at a fraction of the rate but also to a maximum # and anything above that number is useless for licensing -> this could be because of sim?

It true that you will spend quite a bit of time within the company before you can even consider transferring to another carrier, and another consideration would be that on average from what i have read in this thread it takes about a year to get through the whole selection process and that is if you happen to get through in one go...so total 9 maybe more years. But not going through the program and going G/A also takes time - probably not as much though and there is also the plus of getting to touch a plane :}

again its up to the applicant to decide whats best for himself and im posting this neutrally amid the thread argument

Couldn't agree more.

However there is a naiveté about "real" life in Hong Kong and the Terms & Conditions of this new "D" scale.

Be under no illusion that this package is indentured labour at a less-than-livable wage FOR HONG KONG.

The recruiters are glossing over the unpleasant aspects, and there are some (many?) on this board that CHOOSE to ignore the sage advice being given here.

"None so blind as those that will not see..."

You forgot the mothballs and black teeth **** breath.... A LETHAL combination....!!!!