FYI,new cadet pilot page.

http://www.cathaypacificcadetpilots.com.hk/

According to that page just posted by orangeboy, says the AE/TT courses are still running/can apply for.. strange given the other things we have been hearing?

and then to boot pretty much the whole website seems to be geared towards the 61 week ab initio course and local applicants! so is it that cx are looking to hire more locals (onto cp courses) hence this new site and hold on ae/tt or is it for some unrelated reason:confused:

I notice they don't mention pay on the new website. I have been following this thread but can anyone say what the pay is now and is there a housing allowance?

Thanks,

TeaTowel

did anyone finish stage 1b recently? Because I am confused with the reasoning test and personality test.

Yes, I wonder why pay isn't mentioned? Surly if that was a selling point, it would be there, correct? If you pay well, don't you use that in your advertisement? You don't think they are playing on boyhood dreams, and vision of shiney airliners, to get you to pay no attention to the actual number transferred into your HSBC every month do you? I am continually astonished at how expensive Hong Kong is, and is becoming every day. I feel quite bad for these bright eyed chaps, coming with the best of intentions, that are going to get financially slapped silly.

give some rooms for further Salary adjustments.

Reputation with Canadian pilots?
 

Hi everybody

I'm a 24yr old from Vancouver and got my PPL earlier this year. I applied to the Cathay Pacific CPP, passed the 2 interviews in Hong Kong, and did my flight grading in Adelaide in May.

However, in Adelaide, I noticed the flight graders were often not pleased with my prior training. The examiners would say things like "I never understand why they do this in Canada..." and would find faults in exercises I've done exactly the same to pass my exam here (ie. practice forced landings). I had passed my Canadian flight exam just weeks before my flight grading so my flying should have been in tip-top shape.

Is there a stigma or reputation with Canadian pilots abroad? My flight graders were all British or Australian, one was trained by US Air Force. I'm confident my flying was decent, and their comments made it sound like it was Canadian training they were having problems with and not something I had done personally, which has led me to these suspicions.

Are Canadian pilots not looked at favourably in other parts of the world?

I doubt it has anything to do with Canadian pilots in general, its probably more the techniques you were taught. FTA obviously has their own standards and views as to the "correct" techniques, and if your training is different to what they believe, then instructors are likely to say so and try and get you to do things their way. After all, if you pass, you have to adopt their ways, and part of the grading is to see how well you can adjust and even accept criticism (it says this in the FG documents that you get).

FG isn't only about your flying skills (I would highly doubt they would get any ab initio cadets who were the perfect flyers), its also about your attitude, rate of learning, ability to adapt, professionalism and many other things. Sometimes you may pass FG at FTA, but Cathay still may not offer you a cadetship. That is why they have now stopped instructors from giving Flight Graders any form of feedback after each flight.

then what's yr FG result? are u in CPP now?

@orangeboy, do you mean the flight instructors no longer write the feedback after each flight test during grading? I wonder what is the essence of grading if feedback is not given. How will the management know how a candidate fared on?

Instructors no longer give feedback (well they aren't meant to) to the candidate. The scoring is purely for the eyes and ears of the instructors, FTA and Cathay Pacific.

This is because previously instructors would give positive feedback to the candidate, giving them the impression they had passed, and then only to be denied a position by CX.

Between the article posted recently stating CX's intention of hiring 200 SO's in 2013 and the contrary rumors of recruitment becoming suspended until 2014, has anyone officially ascertained the actual status of the Second Officer Programme?

For what's it's worth, I am a potential Advanced Entry cadet, who after failing to progress through my first interview, was asked to (and has) re-applied after 6-months had elapsed.

I've seen a letter from CX to an AE candidate that their course will be deferred for 10-12 months due to a "change in their recruitment requirements" during that period. (I can't remember the exact wording, but it was along those lines)

I can't remember exactly, but they were either in AE 21 or AE 22.

Deferral
 

Iam a bit surprised on what could be the "change in recruitment" which has occurred for AE. My 12 months deferral as a icadet ab initio will be over by February 2013 but with that change, seems like it's another year wait. talk of cx...

I think it relates to them not needing as many pilots in 2013, hence the deferral of AE and TT courses until 2014.



Have they gotten back to you about your situation as in international applicant that was deferred?

"...We do not have any plan to open any Advance Entry Course in 2013. And at the meantime we will continue the recruitment in 2013 with preference goes to HKID permanent card holders.
Best Regards,
Flight Crew Recruitment"

Having read that they are recruiting approximately 70 AE Cadets (200 total) next year, I wonder how that leaves potential AE, non-HKID holders cadets next year?

rodrigues,

Why would they say that and then continue interviewing for ae/tt? Makes no sense!
They are only interviewing/hiring for ab initio cpp cadetship as of now..and even for that seems downscaled

They have stated that current AE cadets will be put on hold, but they will continue to recruit more AE cadets to increase the pool size. I can't justify their business decision, I just know what i'm told.

CHINA CAREERS: 'Career airline' Cathay looks for second officers with an eye to promotion

@orangeboy, Not yet. Iam yet to get any communication from them regarding my deferral of 12 months.