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TragicPrince 17th Mar 2006 08:27

Me too have went for the interview... not so good.. ask bout the usual stuff like how aircraft flies and the current fleet in SIA... The diff between B777 and 747. And engine stuff... The rest of the guys wo got replies for 2nd interview do let us know.

Thks.

moccajava 17th Mar 2006 11:10

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TragicPrince,

What time was your interview today?

I had to wait bout nearly 2hours for my turn. Drove me over the edge and guessed I faltered. Kinda stammering and cant retain my composure... sigh.

Anyhoo... lots of tips here and from cpt lim's webbie. sure helped a lot. regret not knowing the other visual diff wif a 777 and 747 :\

~ Blue skies ~

shinigaimi 17th Mar 2006 16:56

I also went for the interview. I guess I did stammer alot too.

I answer correctly for qns regarding to the company's news and theory of flight. But i score quite badly with regards to the technical parts of the plane. I nv know that I answer wrongly till I come back and check. haha.

interview over in ten mins.. die.. anyone whose interview is less than 10 mins and got into the 2nd round?

rubber 17th Mar 2006 22:26

with the impending bird flu crisis, wonder what will happen to the SQ recruitment process... :(

predator79 18th Mar 2006 03:10


Originally Posted by shinigaimi
I also went for the interview. I guess I did stammer alot too.

I answer correctly for qns regarding to the company's news and theory of flight. But i score quite badly with regards to the technical parts of the plane. I nv know that I answer wrongly till I come back and check. haha.

interview over in ten mins.. die.. anyone whose interview is less than 10 mins and got into the 2nd round?

bro, what technical question did he ask you? can share? thanks

predator79 18th Mar 2006 03:17

I came across this post at another forum (www.askcaptainlim.com) so would like to share it with pilot wannabes here. Seem like there are no 'fixed mould' or 'model character' to pass the interview. There are thousand and one ways to pass the interview and also a thousand and one way to fail. Are we really going to depend on luck?

____________________________________________________________ _____

I thank you for such an informative website which i have benefitted immensely. However, i have a burning question in my mind which i hope you or anyone reading this can share your thoughts on.

I have a fren holding a business degree who failed the second interview conducted last Feb. He was told by the chief interviewer that he was, and i quote ' not academically inclined' This sweeping statement leaves both me n my fren deeply puzzled coz i know there are doctors and lawyers who have zero aeronautical/engineering background who are successfully pilots today.

He was also told that and i quote 'according to our statistics, people from your background have very slim chance of getting in.' Sounds like they have already made their mind there n then in the interview room?

Apparently, he is not the only one getting such remarks. Fellow candidates with business background in his batch also got the same remarks and rejected for the final interview.

Does this mean aspiring pilots with a Business Degree ( me included) have virtually zero chance of getting into the cadet pilot program? I am confused as the prerequisties set by SIA did not specifically mention they only want those armed with aeronautical or engineering knowledge.

Would appreciate if you or anyone could share your thoughts on this

Thermal Image 18th Mar 2006 03:53


Originally Posted by predator79
I came across this post at another forum (www.askcaptainlim.com) so would like to share it with pilot wannabes here. Seem like there are no 'fixed mould' or 'model character' to pass the interview. There are thousand and one ways to pass the interview and also a thousand and one way to fail. Are we really going to depend on luck?
____________________________________________________________ _____
I thank you for such an informative website which i have benefitted immensely. However, i have a burning question in my mind which i hope you or anyone reading this can share your thoughts on.
I have a fren holding a business degree who failed the second interview conducted last Feb. He was told by the chief interviewer that he was, and i quote ' not academically inclined' This sweeping statement leaves both me n my fren deeply puzzled coz i know there are doctors and lawyers who have zero aeronautical/engineering background who are successfully pilots today.
He was also told that and i quote 'according to our statistics, people from your background have very slim chance of getting in.' Sounds like they have already made their mind there n then in the interview room?
Apparently, he is not the only one getting such remarks. Fellow candidates with business background in his batch also got the same remarks and rejected for the final interview.
Does this mean aspiring pilots with a Business Degree ( me included) have virtually zero chance of getting into the cadet pilot program? I am confused as the prerequisties set by SIA did not specifically mention they only want those armed with aeronautical or engineering knowledge.
Would appreciate if you or anyone could share your thoughts on this

Do you really think SIA has no idea of whom they want? That it is all a lottery?

The fact is that for about the last 30 years ONE person was primarily responsible for saying who would make the final cut. This has produced cadets who are remarkably similar in character, for better or worse, although some other types do slip through.

Contrast this with cabin crew, which has seen a number of senior people responsible for giving the final approval, come and go, thus causing clear changes in the quality of the SIA girl (again, for better or worse) coincident with the changeover periods.

And finally, it is a common interview technique / trick to say things to put you, the candidate, on the defensive. It is to see how you handle unexpected events. So don't just believe what the interviewer says. If you just swallow stuff they throw at you which is opposite to what you believe in, then you are someone insipid with no backbone.

TragicPrince 18th Mar 2006 04:57


Originally Posted by moccajava
TragicPrince,

What time was your interview today?

I had to wait bout nearly 2hours for my turn. Drove me over the edge and guessed I faltered. Kinda stammering and cant retain my composure... sigh.

Anyhoo... lots of tips here and from cpt lim's webbie. sure helped a lot. regret not knowing the other visual diff wif a 777 and 747 :\

~ Blue skies ~

I waited about 30mins quite lucky cos me morning batch. Think my interview last 20 mins.. Kinda screwed up though... haha anyway... hope for the best.

billkill 18th Mar 2006 05:36

In regards to what type of degree and expertise you have, thermal is right.
Apparently, we have seen many people of various professions and degrees get in. As I have said before, insurance agents, doctors, real estate agents, engineers and such. A business degree "not academically inclined"? maybe the degree is not recognised? The fact is that we have seen people with diplomas and A level holders getting in. So you should know they are out to spite you to see how you would react. Actually, once you have gotten through the first interview, your academic standing does not stand anymore. It shows that your academic standing has been accepted. Actually, whatever that has been submitted has been accepted. The final interview as I have mentioned before is up to the panel whether they like you. Whether they see the pilot in you. It's not up to how much you know, how smart you are, how good you look, but actually on how you handle yourself in all sorts of situations. And at the end of the day, is still whether they like you.

predator79 18th Mar 2006 06:34


Originally Posted by Thermal Image
Do you really think SIA has no idea of whom they want? That it is all a lottery?
The fact is that for about the last 30 years ONE person was primarily responsible for saying who would make the final cut. This has produced cadets who are remarkably similar in character, for better or worse, although some other types do slip through.
Contrast this with cabin crew, which has seen a number of senior people responsible for giving the final approval, come and go, thus causing clear changes in the quality of the SIA girl (again, for better or worse) coincident with the changeover periods.
And finally, it is a common interview technique / trick to say things to put you, the candidate, on the defensive. It is to see how you handle unexpected events. So don't just believe what the interviewer says. If you just swallow stuff they throw at you which is opposite to what you believe in, then you are someone insipid with no backbone.

Don't get me wrong, I am just trying to invite more comments thus posting a question "do we really depend on luck". Not degrading the overall standard of SIA pilots by merely saying they qualified because of luck. My apologies and no offence to those pilots being chosen for SIA. I understand and acknowledge that you SIA pilots do have a certain degree of calibre and also I must agree with you that capt M*****y has the experience and foresight to choose the best person to represent Singapore national flag carrier airlines.
Thanks for the advice from you and billkill on the interview technique. It sounds more logical now.

shinigaimi 18th Mar 2006 07:12

My qns are
1) Tell me abt urself (pilot)
2) Explain the lift of wing (pilot)
3) SIA Fleet (HR)
4) Engines used in SIA planes (HR)
5) The meaning behind the serial no like... (Pilot & HR) The meaning of 553, 884 in Roll royce trent 553 and 884. ( I said I dunnoe but I told them I think the last 2 digits seems to be the same as the power of thrust of engine.)
6) Headquarters of roll royce. (HR)
7) How a turbine engine works (HR)
8) wing structure difference between 777 and 747 (pilot) I ans wrongly. I said 777 got winglet. kns.. and I told them i nv research on 747.
9) Purpose of winglet. (pilot)
10) Ask me abt rudder (HR. I ans correctly abt the position. But not the purpose.)
11) Ask me abt my favourite plane. I said I dun have. haha. I mentioned that I only have a general interest in flying. Ask me why i dun want to be air steward. I said I like to control plane.
12) Inflight system. (HR)abt avonics or stg like that. I said I don't know.
Ask me whether i got qns for them.. i said no.. I shld ask some intelligent qns to impress them.


Mine over in 10 mins.. I think i am dead...

moccajava 18th Mar 2006 08:35

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Jee... I dont even know which one was HR and which was the pilot...

looks like u got more questions than me... not sure if we should benchmark the amount of time spent inside the interview room as a measure of our chances???!!! because the guy before we was quite chatty and took about 30-45 minutes... i think i spent only half of it...

are they looking for someone who is more engaging/chatty? should we be concerned if the interview was dry and questions just came one after another and that's it?

:eek:

billkill 18th Mar 2006 09:52

Guys,
Don't worry about the time you spend in there. It does not gauge whether you move on or not. It's the quality of answers you give. Some spend a lot of time talking about themselves or explaining a point. Some get more questions than the rest. Some have flying background and may be asked more technical questions even.

From what I know, people with no flying experience will have very limited flying knowledge. They don't really penalize you on that but as I said, it is how you answer. They don't expect you to know everything.

Majulah 19th Mar 2006 14:15

Hello everybody

I´m currently toying a lot with the idea of moving to SG again, wanting to join SQ. I have several questions about the cadet pilot programme and TR / employment with SQ. I noticed there is quite a number of very informed guys in here, so if you could please help me out... :)

thats what i have:

- JAA (European) ATPL (1500 hrs airline experience)
- can get a PR anytime (Singaporean wife)
- did flight training with high standard airline
- Multi Crew on Airbus
- i lived and worked in Spore before
- i do definitely not qualify for any current direct entry scheme into SQ


1) is the only way for me the cadet path?
2) if i take the cadet path, do i go to the lear training or straight to a TR? and how long would i be in training?
3) obviously i would go through all the selection steps. how many of them?
4) does the hiring outlook at SQ have an upward or downward tendency?
5) do you know anybody with a similar career history/career plan?

Thank you very much for any helpful comments / information. :ok:

Greetings! :cool:

rubber 19th Mar 2006 14:23


Originally Posted by Majulah
1) is the only way for me the cadet path?
2) if i take the cadet path, do i go to the lear training or straight to a TR? and how long would i be in training?

Hi Majulah,
I have heard the guys who have flying experience, but insufficient to get in as Direct Entry FOs, do join as cadets. However, they skip the majority of the training as much as CAAS permits. So joining Learjet phase directly does sound reasonable.

Rubber

Majulah 19th Mar 2006 14:47

thank you rubber, that was fast...:O

learjet phase is how long and where?
and how many hours are required for DE? Typerated pilots only?

TinyBrain 20th Mar 2006 04:50


Originally Posted by shinigaimi
I also went for the interview. I guess I did stammer alot too.

I answer correctly for qns regarding to the company's news and theory of flight. But i score quite badly with regards to the technical parts of the plane. I nv know that I answer wrongly till I come back and check. haha.

interview over in ten mins.. die.. anyone whose interview is less than 10 mins and got into the 2nd round?


Yup, me.. heehee~.. don't be despair.. 10mins doesn't mean you are no good or doesn't make the cut. It all depends on the interviewers as well as your answers and performance. I have friends who went in for 30mins but wasn't granted an 2nd interview. Good luck! :ok:

TragicPrince 20th Mar 2006 07:27

I'm out... Unsuccessful... Better luck next time :{

Rajiv 20th Mar 2006 09:32

Tragic Prince, that's fast you got a reply from them.. in just 3 days!! (interview on 17th march, results on 20 march)...

Well, I got mine after 1 week in my email.... During that 1 week, I was just anxious n nervous.... Funny thing is, when I received the mail from SIA that I was unsuccessful, I had no feelings at all... I guess deep down in my heart, I knew I wasn't going to get in that time anyway..

moccajava 20th Mar 2006 14:48

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I think we should do a post-mortem of the interview and brush up on the things that we knew we were lacking during the interview.

Things like theory of flight, airplane specs and history and the stuff...
Apart from that also I guess we should reflect on shining the best of our qualities to the panel and then thus we could then walk away knowing that in a few days time the awaited favourable e-mail would come.

Keep on trying!

:ok:


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