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fromdgrndup 25th Jun 2014 19:56

SQ is supposed to start receiving their A350's from 2016. But it looks like they are going to get just 1 a/c much before that. If news is correct then MSN008 which is on the FAL in Toulouse is being configured for SIA.
So out of 5 A/c on FAL in TLS, 4 are for Qatar and 1 for Singapore.

Stallone 26th Jun 2014 04:45


SIA Flight Operations Division will be launching a Beta test training program this year that will enable us to train cadet pilots in a more effective and efficient manner. While we are currently experiencing an excess technical crew situation, it is strategically important for us to embrace new professional training standards by launching this program now to meet our future manpower needs.
SIA is starting on MPL. But currently only opened for staff.

wonderland 26th Jun 2014 05:11

That's correct. Internal email sent out a few days back.

ylfoo1983 26th Jun 2014 05:35

Thanks for sharing
 
Thanks for sharing the news. Sharing is caring :)

fromdgrndup 26th Jun 2014 07:11

Atleast they getting the recruitment wheels rolling. The STAA MPL beta program took 2 years. So going by that I guess it looks like SIA doesn't plan on starting recruitment for a good 2 years more after they launch their Beta program.
Thanks for the info Stallone.

passionate.aviator 8th Jul 2014 00:50

any idea when they will start the recruitment of internal staff for the MPL program?

wonderland 8th Jul 2014 02:05

End of 2014, but probably somewhere around March 2015.

dewa11 8th Jul 2014 17:09

Any idea if the MPL training is for SQ or MI

flying.monkeyz 8th Jul 2014 23:11

SQ. And it's for the 777 fleet.

dewa11 9th Jul 2014 00:03

Interesting.... Considering they are opening Airbus training sch in Seletar, wld have thought it will be A320/A350 type rating
course

flying.monkeyz 9th Jul 2014 01:48

They're not due to receive their A350 for a while. Plus no one wants to do a beta trial on a new aircraft fleet.

They don't need to use the Seletar facilities as they have their own 777 / 747 sims at STC. Plus the Seletar building isn't even up yet.

lizhien 9th Jul 2014 05:22

Isn't SIA due to receive MSN008 early next year?

Looking at the notice, they said you could be posted to any of the 3 lines. So how will the training work out?

Stallone 9th Jul 2014 11:54


Closing Date : 18 July 1730hrs
with regards to the application of the beta MPL programme :)

Prusaesl 9th Jul 2014 13:37

Correct me if I am wrong but I heard they will train everyone as it is and then allocate them to the respective SQ, MI or cargo. With the beta program I have a feeling public can wait at least for this batch to be completed before they open up.

fromdgrndup 9th Jul 2014 14:41

The way MPL works or is different from traditional CPL is that it gives you an exposure to multi crew cockpit operations procedures pretty early in your training. ICAO requirements for an MPL is a minimum of 240 hours of actual or simulated flying performing the duties of pilot flying (PF) and pilot non-flying (PNF) with an additional requirement that the applicant meets all the actual flying time for a private pilot licence plus additional actual flying time in instrument, night flying and upset recovery. So one can expect around 80 hours of actual aircraft flying (in Seletar and Jandakot) with the rest being simulated flying.
Now multi crew operations are for a/c certificated for more than 1 crew member. So the trainer could be anything from a complete flight deck mock up of an a/c as simple as a CRJ or Learjet or A320 to more advanced cockpits like the 777 or 350. Depending on the degrees of freedom and complexity of controls on the flight deck there are varying levels of a Flight Simulation Training Device(FSTD). When you start training for an MPL you will start small. Your training device will be a simpler FSTD say level 4 which will be just a complete flight deck mock up and not an FFS because they will want to emphasize on teaching you how to work in a turbine multi crew co operation multi engine environment and save on costs of putting you in an FFS. So you will start your MPL on smaller a/c sims with lesser system and flight deck complexities (Learjet or A320) so that you can emphasize on operational procedures and are not overwhelmed by cockpit complexities. All this training will be according to SIA ops procedures. Now all this will easily take you 12-15 months (including ground school for ATPL and flying). So you might have an idea by this point which line you would be assigned to but won't be sure of it till your type rating. Then you will have your type rating (maybe another 1-3 months) on a FSTD level 7 or a FFS (level D I think) which will be type specific on the fleet you are going to be assigned to. This is the regular type rating that even a CPL holder would need to do. I guess this is the reduction in training time down to 18 months that Nicholas Ionides referred to in media reports when they shut down Maroochydore.
As in life, you have to walk before you learn to run. Every new a/c is a development of the older ones with newer systems being derived from older ones. That's why airlines will transition pilots from older and smaller to newer and bigger based on seniority of experience with the airline because you are deemed as having that much knowledge of the airlines ops procedures.
So irrespective of the a/c coming in, a new (cadet) pilot will start off on the smaller and older fleet in an airline and senior pilots will make the transition to newer, bigger, advanced a/c coming into the fleet.
So as flying.monkeyz said earlier, you should expect to be on the 777 fleet for SQ or 320 for MI
This is just my research and what I've gathered about MPL. Let's see what route SIA takes.

ZeroRing7 9th Jul 2014 15:19

flying.monkeyz got insider info intake is for 777 fleet?

And great info by frmgrndup!

Dahawk 10th Jul 2014 16:41

Any chance that the beta MPL prog for SQ can be opened up to non-sq staff? :(

lizhien 11th Jul 2014 01:46

Guess it depends on the internal response?

wonderland 11th Jul 2014 03:02

No chance at all...:=

dewa11 11th Jul 2014 03:32

Why not? Unless the intake is small or alot of staff applying :eek:


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