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SpiceJet is looking for F/O's on their Bombardier fleet.
They are charging Rs35,000 for the exam and will be selecting 50 candidates.
Given that these crooks did not stick to their selection criteria* during their 737 rated exams 2014, how many will be willing to take a gamble this time.
*Advertisement mentioned 60 candidates will be selected from stage 2 and qualify for stage 3. They selected only 40 candidates from stage 2. This clearly is in breach of the selection criteria set by them.
This discrepancy was brought to the attention of the testing officer, a captain of the highest rank. He simply shrug it off saying, Oh well, the selection is done now. Too late."
SpiceJet is looking for F/O's on their Bombardier fleet.
They are charging Rs35,000 for the exam and will be selecting 50 candidates.
Given that these crooks did not stick to their selection criteria* during their 737 rated exams 2014, how many will be willing to take a gamble this time.
*Advertisement mentioned 60 candidates will be selected from stage 2 and qualify for stage 3. They selected only 40 candidates from stage 2. This clearly is in breach of the selection criteria set by them.
This discrepancy was brought to the attention of the testing officer, a captain of the highest rank. He simply shrug it off saying, Oh well, the selection is done now. Too late."
So
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There are currently over 7000 CPL holders in India looking for that first job.
Let's say 4000 at the very least apply for the exam. At 35000 per head, that's a cool 14 Crore rupees, enough to pay the salary of their staff including pilots, for a few months.
Rumour is that 50 candidates who are selected will be charged Rs 40 lakhs each for a self-sponsored Type Rating course on Q400 Aircraft. A Rating on this type can be had from outside at Rs 8 lakhs. Corporate clients gain firther discounts. Lets assume 10 lakhs as the actual cost of TR which the company will bear. That's a savings of Rs 30 lakh per pilot. 30 lakh x 50 candidates = a cool 15 Crore rupees.
Total amount to be made in the latest venture by SPiceJet....to the tune of approx 30 Crore rupees!
Let's say 4000 at the very least apply for the exam. At 35000 per head, that's a cool 14 Crore rupees, enough to pay the salary of their staff including pilots, for a few months.
Rumour is that 50 candidates who are selected will be charged Rs 40 lakhs each for a self-sponsored Type Rating course on Q400 Aircraft. A Rating on this type can be had from outside at Rs 8 lakhs. Corporate clients gain firther discounts. Lets assume 10 lakhs as the actual cost of TR which the company will bear. That's a savings of Rs 30 lakh per pilot. 30 lakh x 50 candidates = a cool 15 Crore rupees.
Total amount to be made in the latest venture by SPiceJet....to the tune of approx 30 Crore rupees!
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Unless the governments steps in and regulate staff hiring, candidates will continue to bear the brunt of these scams. In a climate of job uncertainty, desperate pilots will continue to pour money into any opening they see to gain a foothold in the industry. It is now up to the ministry to protect the interest of the unemployed pilot fraternity.
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hmmm
you are trying to sing an old song.
what are the real facts? im sure not the one you have posted.
spice would nt be charging that much for the rating. they mostly will charge 50% of it. half would be deducted from salary.
can anyone confirm this.
what are the real facts? im sure not the one you have posted.
spice would nt be charging that much for the rating. they mostly will charge 50% of it. half would be deducted from salary.
can anyone confirm this.
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I clearly stated that the 40 lakh figure for TR is a rumour doing its rounds. But I wouldn't at all be surprised if Spice charged close to or even more than that amount.
You seriously don't think it cost them Rs35000 per candidate to conduct an online exam, now do you?
You seriously don't think it cost them Rs35000 per candidate to conduct an online exam, now do you?
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The topic of discussion is the cost for the TR after you get selected.
as i said before 'spice would nt be charging that much for the rating. they mostly will charge 50% of it. half would be deducted from salary.'
40L sounds a bit over-rated.
as i said before 'spice would nt be charging that much for the rating. they mostly will charge 50% of it. half would be deducted from salary.'
40L sounds a bit over-rated.
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Your biggest worry should be whether Spice will select 50 candidates as advertised, or whether they will fall back on their word like they did with their last exam and take a smaller number.
Keep in mind there are 7000 CPL holders who are unemployed in India. Even if you take a conservative figure of 4000 that will apply, they will do so in the hope that there is a some chance of getting selected, albeit a slim one. (1 in 80)
Now imagine if they were to select only 10 candidates. That reduces your chance from 1 in 80 to 1 in 400. When the odds are stacked heavily against you, there will be fewer people willing to take the gamble and apply after paying 35000 plus expenses for the test.
THis is why it becomes extremely important for Spice to stick to their advertisement and select the number of candidates as advertised.
I am one of those candidates who appeared for 2014 thinking I was in for a fair chance. But was duped to know later on that they had reduced the number of candidates they were selecting, thereby decreasing my chances. Had I known that earlier I would not have applied for their paid test.
Keep in mind there are 7000 CPL holders who are unemployed in India. Even if you take a conservative figure of 4000 that will apply, they will do so in the hope that there is a some chance of getting selected, albeit a slim one. (1 in 80)
Now imagine if they were to select only 10 candidates. That reduces your chance from 1 in 80 to 1 in 400. When the odds are stacked heavily against you, there will be fewer people willing to take the gamble and apply after paying 35000 plus expenses for the test.
THis is why it becomes extremely important for Spice to stick to their advertisement and select the number of candidates as advertised.
I am one of those candidates who appeared for 2014 thinking I was in for a fair chance. But was duped to know later on that they had reduced the number of candidates they were selecting, thereby decreasing my chances. Had I known that earlier I would not have applied for their paid test.
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The 7000 unemployed pilots is one of the biggest rumours that has been floating around in Indian Aviation
The DGCA from Jan 2004 to Dec 2014 issued only 9064 Pilot licenses . If 7000 were unemployed then that means only 2000 Pilots are employed .
Air India alone has 1500 something pilots . Jet Airways has another 1500 . IndiGo is also 1000+ ( actually I believe the numbers are closer 1500 )
A more accurate number of unemployed would be to find out how many apply for mass airline exams like Jet , IndiGo , Air India etc
Jet 2013 and 2014 has 3000+ roll numbers issued . IndiGo JFO 2015 had 2500+ roll numbers issued
For Air India its slightly less than 3000 roll numbers issued ( although i could be wrong about that one since I dont think my numbers for Mumbai are accurate... )
The DGCA from Jan 2004 to Dec 2014 issued only 9064 Pilot licenses . If 7000 were unemployed then that means only 2000 Pilots are employed .
Air India alone has 1500 something pilots . Jet Airways has another 1500 . IndiGo is also 1000+ ( actually I believe the numbers are closer 1500 )
A more accurate number of unemployed would be to find out how many apply for mass airline exams like Jet , IndiGo , Air India etc
Jet 2013 and 2014 has 3000+ roll numbers issued . IndiGo JFO 2015 had 2500+ roll numbers issued
For Air India its slightly less than 3000 roll numbers issued ( although i could be wrong about that one since I dont think my numbers for Mumbai are accurate... )
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absolutely,
people usually exaggerate those unemployed pilot numbers. just because someone started a group of unemployed pilots doesn't mean all of them are in the same boat. that group doesn't represent anything except an update for the aviation scene maybe.
people usually exaggerate those unemployed pilot numbers. just because someone started a group of unemployed pilots doesn't mean all of them are in the same boat. that group doesn't represent anything except an update for the aviation scene maybe.
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Psychometry is computer based with no time limit. Before you take the test, you will be advised to answer only those which you are comfortable with. I have no idea why the capt said this. I'm sure not answering a particular question would amount to negative points in their assessment.
There is no personal interview with SG. Once you clear all the rounds, you're basically in. That is if they hire as many as they advertise, that is. SG is notorious for making changes to the test format on the go, so don't be surprised if unexpected things pop up during/after the tests.
There is no personal interview with SG. Once you clear all the rounds, you're basically in. That is if they hire as many as they advertise, that is. SG is notorious for making changes to the test format on the go, so don't be surprised if unexpected things pop up during/after the tests.
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SpiceJet was supposed to close registration for TFO Q400 on 15 Nov 2015.
Today is 16 NOV, and you can still go and register for the exam.
SpiceJet has already gone against their own advertisement even before the exams haves started. Like I said folks dont be surprised if unexpected events pop up during/after the tests.
They will change the test format, change selection criteria, change the min pass mark, change the number qualifiers at every round and finally change the number of candidates they will induct.
Disgusting to say the least, after paying them 35,000 RS for the opportunity.
Today is 16 NOV, and you can still go and register for the exam.
SpiceJet has already gone against their own advertisement even before the exams haves started. Like I said folks dont be surprised if unexpected events pop up during/after the tests.
They will change the test format, change selection criteria, change the min pass mark, change the number qualifiers at every round and finally change the number of candidates they will induct.
Disgusting to say the least, after paying them 35,000 RS for the opportunity.
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Past actions are a great predictor of future behaviour.
It is no longer a speculation.
Today is Nov 16, still accepting new registrations for their 35,000 RS exams, 24 hours after their deadline for registration has passed.
Maybe they didn't get enough applicants to make the projected amount of money? Just a speculation.
It is no longer a speculation.
Today is Nov 16, still accepting new registrations for their 35,000 RS exams, 24 hours after their deadline for registration has passed.
Maybe they didn't get enough applicants to make the projected amount of money? Just a speculation.
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SpiceJet has extended the last date for registration till 25th November 2015 . Exam date as published on their website is 6th December 2015
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