IGRUA... yep or nope ??? :O

[estranged soul]

First you say :

And you wont get it unless u personally visit igrua and see for yourself....

and then , you say :

I know how the training done in usa ....faa question banks...flying done 4-8 months....
Seriously ....

So, you have painstakingly gone to all the thousands of flying schools in USA and seen everything for yourself and compared it with your IGRUA ?

And then you take 4-6 attempts to clear your dgca...then again sepnd money for recency and all....

Typical "frog in the well" attitude of an Indian trainee.

But it dosent matter if u can fly an aircraft or not ....even a monkey can learn that...
What matters is your knowledge....so keep on studying...

On the contrary, any monkey or jack-ass can be made to study or as they say in India .. "Mug-pass" theory subjects and exams. Which is precisely why you have so many DGCA exams "coaching centers". Even the most stupid idiots can pass these papers (CPL or ATPL) if they are given the right material and notes and made to memorize certain formulas and points.
The smart students (regardless whether they trained in USA/Canada/Aus/India etc) will anyway pass the papers without much hassles.

Flying on the other hand requires aptitude and motor-skills.
Whether in flying schools in India, or in airlines, most of the pilots coming from Indian schools lack basic flying skills.

And no .. Im not talking about a single engine ILS with 15 kt crosswinds, or flying the airplane on raw data.

Disengage the autopilot when any average Indian pilot (one who trained in India/IGRUA) and it's entertainment !

Even with Flight directors, they are barely able to fly a jet airplane straight and level for more than a few seconds.
Lets not even get into steep turns, constant airspeed climbs, descents, intercepting a localizer course, basic stall recovery etc.
And all this in a simulator without any other distractions like R/T, cockpit scans and checklists etc. !!! PATHETIC !

If any of you "IGRUAN"s bother to read about accidents in Aviation history, then you'll perhaps understand that what saved the day in all those cases was good airmanship and flying skills of the crew, and not whether the Captain or FO had passed his CPL/ATPL papers and RT exams in one attempt.

For starters :

1. Fedex Flight 705
2. United airlines flight 232
3. Air canada flight 143
4. air transat flight 236

[planeboy_777]

well i have personally experienced their flying..we used to fly in the same airspace in VAGD..
trust me man utter bullst flying
they fly in formation on the Daimonds
every year you'll see a crashed aircraft in VAGD ..they dont stick to their SOP's

and i remember once a foolish guy from IGRUA practicing maneuvers on the Live side.
didn't managed to hear the runway change Mann.


if you consder NFTI's standard
Every aircraft in NFTI has an FDR flight data recorder..
(records EGT, CHT,RPM,Attitude,speed,vs,height,hdg,crs,frequncy slected,co-ordinates,etcetc, in every 1 min)
they embedd this data in Google earth in 3D.
the instructors debrief's us after each sortie

[cyrilroy21]

if you consder NFTI's standard
Every aircraft in NFTI has an FDR flight data recorder..
(records EGT, CHT,RPM,Attitude,speed,vs,height,hdg,crs,frequncy slected,co-ordinates,etcetc, in every 1 min)
they embedd this data in Google earth in 3D.
the instructors debrief's us after each sortie

Ok thats a standard I have never heard of anywhere else

I am impressed

[planeboy_777]

once during my initial training,when i returned after my solo, the instructor asked my how was your landing i said it was nice.......he said that you ballooned slightly because the VSI had a slight +vs climb

i was like WTF

[viral_1212]

help....

i could'nt give the entrance for the INDIGO CADET PILOT TRAINING PROGRAM as i was unwell..now the only option for me is joinin IGRUA or waiting for some CADET PILOT TRAINING PROGRAM to come up...,wat should i do???plzzzzzzz help

[flyjet787]

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well i have personally experienced their flying..we used to fly in the same airspace in VAGD..
 trust me man utter bullst flying
 they fly in formation on the Daimonds :ugh::ugh:
 every year you'll see a crashed aircraft in VAGD ..they dont stick to their SOP's 

 and i remember once a foolish guy from IGRUA practicing maneuvers on the Live side.
 didn't managed to hear the runway change Mann.:ugh::ugh:

Take it easy man. Every one makes mistakes in the learning stages. And crashed aircraft every year?? Don't you think you are exaggerating a bit too much??
I'm sure if it was even a hard landing damaging the aircraft there would have been a DGCA inquiry and a report put up on the DGCA website. There is only till date.

But I'm pretty impressed with the tracking on google 3D part of NFTI. I have never heard of such a thing before.

[AmateurAviatorAlways]

@echo.mike.india
it was a relief to know that it could b done within the stipulated time frame..
anyways what would be the optimum batch to start (sep or dec), if given a choice?

[echo.mike.india]

Joining igrua

Join in the sep batch so that after completing 4 months of ground training during bad weather(foggy winters)... U will be ready to start flying in jan or feb when the weather starts improving...
Good luck

[viral_1212]

hey...can i take a break in the month of december from igrua..I HAVE 2 GIVE MY KT EXAMS...IS IT ALLOWED

[AmateurAviatorAlways]

@echo.mike.india
yeah man..thnx!

[echo.mike.india]

Fdr at igrua

Da 40 aircraft present at igrua has all the technology mentioned above like fdr, google tracking etc...in addition to da 40 you will also find aircrafts like tb 20 and zlin which is no where present in india except for igrua...tb 20 is a complex aircraft cause it has auto pilot and retractable landng gear....

[echo.mike.india]

air india

all those pruners who are showing hatred towards air india and igrua (because they have placements in the national carrier)..i want to ask one think

if air india comes up with any openings for cpl holders...will u guys apply for that...
i mean would you prefer sitting at home instead of getting delayed salaries..
and would you prefer sitting at home instead of getting less than 50 hours a month..
looking at the current situation of private airlines except for jet airways ..are you sure that you will be recruited by them...
scam jet....20000 fees for exams already rigged
kingfisher ...all back door entries
go air...hiring type rated pilots
indigo...exams too hard to clear for most..so leave it
so where do u want to go huh...

[viral_1212]

hey r u currently in IGRUA???..if u are plz let me knw abt d exact amount of CPL...d duration of d course...and d current recruitment by air india...plzz reply quickly... i m from mumbai..i have my interview on 4th august...i just gave ma last semester exams in the field of EXTC engineering but got KTs...i have to give them in d month of december....if u have a +ve response i would be surely joinin it

[cyrilroy21]

Quick question to those who flew in IGRUA , NFTI or any other flying school in India

What charts do you refer to when planing and flying your VFR cross countries ?

Any idea where I can buy these charts ?

[planeboy_777]

Jeppview
torrent it

you''ll get the world coverage of Both Hi-low en-route chart And VFR Charts too inclusive of SID , STAR, Airport chart, Approach plate,
and even NOTAM.

but every 28 days you'll have to update the software.

[echo.mike.india]

totally agree with planeboy

jeppview is the thing to use in india..
IGRUA RUNWAY DOSENT HAVE JEPP CHART...BUT WE HAVE AN AIP CHART FOR OUR AIRFIELD...BUT WHEN WE GO TO vilk, vibn etc we use jeppessen charts..

[vserian]

A lot of you not just the ones who are here but others who are trying to get the first job are very bitter about the fact that AI has taken students from IGRUA straight onto the big ones. I knew if this happened it would create disappointments among many who are trying hard but AI has been hiring fresh ones out of IGRUA for many many years and it will keep on doing it regardless of what people think or moan about that. I also suspected a growing hatred for IGRUA and now its no more of a suspicion matter, indeed a lot has started hating on IGRUA but the fact will still remain that it is one of the top flying schools in India, you should go in it to experience it.

I know many of you are in very desperate and hard situations but some of you are taking it too far without knowing any facts which is basically wasting your time.

[ilsdme28]

bitter about the fact that AI has taken students from IGRUA straight onto the big ones

First its not true that all here are unemployed and secondly this is a known fact that air india hires from igrua , its not about the bitterness but about being humble and on the ground , non igruans are expected to see standards in igrua while how many igrua students have seen ground and flying standards in Canada-Australia- and jaa countries
igrua is a good flying school but that does not give igruans license to look down on the people from other flying schools , this attitude has to go ........
"BEST IN THE WORLD"--------what nonsense ask expats in other non asian forums , do they know OXFORD or IGRUA truth will come out
may be next time EMIRATES will come to igrua for road shows that they have been carrying all over north America

[viral_1212]

echo.mike.india

hey r u currently in IGRUA???..if u are plz let me knw abt d exact amount of CPL...d duration of d course...and d current recruitment by air india...plzz reply quickly... i m from mumbai..i have my interview on 4th august...i just gave ma last semester exams in the field of EXTC engineering but got KTs...i have to give them in d month of december....if u have a +ve response i would be surely joinin it

[givememywings]

@viral_1212: the exact amount as of now is 24.60 + 1.5 lakhs...including the hostel and mess charges...the exact duration is 18 months...on 25th july, 2011...62 igruans were recruited by air india..