HKA/HKE Fleet size
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HKA/HKE Fleet size
Hi all,
Was just reading the company's website, but their details about a/c fleet aint up-to-date. Could any of the current HKE/HKA pilots spare me some info??
Just wanna see what types they're currently operate, what 's on the shopping list and stuff. I know they've got A330 and A330F, 733F and 738.
Thank guys!!
PA911
Was just reading the company's website, but their details about a/c fleet aint up-to-date. Could any of the current HKE/HKA pilots spare me some info??
Just wanna see what types they're currently operate, what 's on the shopping list and stuff. I know they've got A330 and A330F, 733F and 738.
Thank guys!!
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You'd be insane to go there with that experience..
only 3rd rate washouts and newbies work there.
Oh.. if they offer you a quick command, ask how many people they've ever upgraded @ HKA.. in about 5 yrs the answer hasn't changed.. 0
only 3rd rate washouts and newbies work there.
Oh.. if they offer you a quick command, ask how many people they've ever upgraded @ HKA.. in about 5 yrs the answer hasn't changed.. 0
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Starskate,
I'm sure that if you read "Demise of Hong Kong Airlines" you would not be the least surprised that they have not replied 3 weeks after an interview.
If you believe only half the postings you will conclude that a lot of people consider HKA to be appallingly badly run and the employees are badly treated and lied to. As this has not stopped you paying for your own flight to attend an interview, I can only hope that you take the time to talk to plenty of HKA pilots if you still do come to Hong Kong.
I've spoken to Spanish, British, Portuguese, Malaysian, Brazilian and Argentinian pilots there and what I heard was sad (for them) and scary. Mostly what they said was similar to the rumours, disorganisation and misinformation (management either lying or wishful thinking). Also, training is taking way longer than expected so pay is much lower for much longer.
I'm sure that if you read "Demise of Hong Kong Airlines" you would not be the least surprised that they have not replied 3 weeks after an interview.
If you believe only half the postings you will conclude that a lot of people consider HKA to be appallingly badly run and the employees are badly treated and lied to. As this has not stopped you paying for your own flight to attend an interview, I can only hope that you take the time to talk to plenty of HKA pilots if you still do come to Hong Kong.
I've spoken to Spanish, British, Portuguese, Malaysian, Brazilian and Argentinian pilots there and what I heard was sad (for them) and scary. Mostly what they said was similar to the rumours, disorganisation and misinformation (management either lying or wishful thinking). Also, training is taking way longer than expected so pay is much lower for much longer.
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Starskate,
I can only repeat, if you do come to HK, get to talk to as many pilots as possible. I know what you mean, there are pilots in every company who complain. Cathay pilots get more than double the HKA pay and conditions but some of them still complain.
But take a look at how many posts there are on "Demise of Hong Kong Airlines" and yet there are only about 72 pilots at HKA compared with 1000's at Cathay. Checking a HKA roster from 2007 shows that only 3 pilots from that roster are still employed by HKA! - that fact also tells a story.
Many pilots struggle to find work, my longest was just over 2 years and with a family it's very tough and can have personal consequences. But as a
"First Officer A330 , 8,200 TT, 2036 on A320" surely other options are starting to appear? Remember, with HKA on your resume, the next job may be harder to find as HKA's bad reputation spreads.
Also, don't expect your positive attitude towards the company to be reciprocated. Chinese business culture is VERY different. To them, you are a cost, an inconvenience and a foreigner (not a good thing) and every contract, every policy, every roster will reflect this attitude.
For more info on HKA, other than pprune, read HK newpaper articles about pilots and cabin crew fighting HKA thru the courts and articles about HKA safety incidents.
So why am I telling you this? Because i don't want others to make the same mistake I did. Yes, I might have a chip on my shoulder but I'm not making anything up and a lot of what I read on "Demise of ..." and other threads, I know is true. Good luck if you come for an interview but leave with your eyes open, talk to pilots (there are lots of ex-HKA pilots still in HKG, at Metrojet, Dragonair and Air Hong Kong), read newpapers, talk to cabin crew, ask the right questions and don't believe managers.
I can only repeat, if you do come to HK, get to talk to as many pilots as possible. I know what you mean, there are pilots in every company who complain. Cathay pilots get more than double the HKA pay and conditions but some of them still complain.
But take a look at how many posts there are on "Demise of Hong Kong Airlines" and yet there are only about 72 pilots at HKA compared with 1000's at Cathay. Checking a HKA roster from 2007 shows that only 3 pilots from that roster are still employed by HKA! - that fact also tells a story.
Many pilots struggle to find work, my longest was just over 2 years and with a family it's very tough and can have personal consequences. But as a
"First Officer A330 , 8,200 TT, 2036 on A320" surely other options are starting to appear? Remember, with HKA on your resume, the next job may be harder to find as HKA's bad reputation spreads.
Also, don't expect your positive attitude towards the company to be reciprocated. Chinese business culture is VERY different. To them, you are a cost, an inconvenience and a foreigner (not a good thing) and every contract, every policy, every roster will reflect this attitude.
For more info on HKA, other than pprune, read HK newpaper articles about pilots and cabin crew fighting HKA thru the courts and articles about HKA safety incidents.
So why am I telling you this? Because i don't want others to make the same mistake I did. Yes, I might have a chip on my shoulder but I'm not making anything up and a lot of what I read on "Demise of ..." and other threads, I know is true. Good luck if you come for an interview but leave with your eyes open, talk to pilots (there are lots of ex-HKA pilots still in HKG, at Metrojet, Dragonair and Air Hong Kong), read newpapers, talk to cabin crew, ask the right questions and don't believe managers.
