CX cadet pilot programme interview in november

[MidgetBoy]

they might not do any calls on the weekend..
Johnny as in.. the john on wednesday? you didn't get a call either yet?
I'm the 19 yr old kid there =P i messed up the first tech question..

just googled leicaster.. yeah thats you =P.. england.. hah.. hope we get through.. you and jesse dominated the group exercise.. barely got a word through.. I think i did better and talked a lot more during the flight planning exercise.. i think i did okay in the interview too.. though they might have got the wrong impression thinking that I was rich enough to afford to finish my flight training at my dad's flight school..

[GeorginaSanderson]

hi guys,

i had my initial testing on 25 October and have been called for another interview next week. been reading through all these threads and am getting a bit worried as people are talking about a book they are studying for stage 2 interviews. whilst they didn't say what "stage" my interview next week is, i guess its "stage 1 interview" as they mentioned its with 2 HR people? (and i saw someone mentioned here they had initial testing and stage 1 interview on separate days)
anyway i'd really appreciate if you guys who did it in november could perhaps give me some tips of how it went? although ive been talking to some pilots with cathay this week, i guess you're the most recent to go through this stage so would appreciate any advice you can give!
also if theres anyone else at there who's doing theirs next week as well, let me know!
thanks

[holdmetight]

stage 1 interview really is a piece of cake. it's not exactly an interview, it's more like a chat to let them get to know you. questions they will ask depend on what you wrote on your CV and anything of their interest. in other words, they want to get a clear picture on your background. don't worry, they will put you at ease and you should be able to relax. if you are serious about getting admitted into CPP, you should have no problem with this stage.

when you get invited to stage 2, they will call you and tell you that they want to send you a book. it's a grubby, well-worn A4 sized booklet around 5x pages, all basic PPL level stuff. you are supposed to study this booklet for their Job Knowledge Quiz and panel interview.

good luck! keep us updated

[GeorginaSanderson]

excellent, thanks for your reply holdmetight

i am really serious about this and really really want to get through, so im pretty nervous but so so excited at the same time!

good luck for yours next week!! keep us posted how it goes and what happens next!

[MidgetBoy]

whats a CV?

[adamk]

it stands for curriculum vitae. its just pretty much your CV

[theshat]

whats a CV?

what the brits call a "CV" is what the rest of the world refers to as a "resume"


god save the queen

[theshat]

I would also like to dedicate this song to those who didnt quite make it, but worked oh so hard, and truly deserve a pat on the back...theres always dragonair....




you know who you are.........





She packed my bags........... last night pre-flight!
Zero hour............. nine a.m.
And I’m gonna be........................ hiiiiiigh.............. as a kite by then
I miss the earth so much.................... I miss my wife
It’s lonely! ................out in space
On such a............... timeless ....flight

And I think it’s gonna be... a long long time
Till touch down..... brings me round again to find I'm....
not the man they think I am at home
Oh! no no no....... I’m a rocket man!
Rocket man............ burning out his fuse up here alone.............

Mars ain’t!.... the kind of place to raise your kid....
In fact it’s cold as hell.....
And there’s....... no one there to raise them! ......if you did
And all thisssssss science!.... I don’t understand....
It’s just my job........ five days a week
A rocket! ....a rocket, man!

And I think it’s gonna be... a long long time...
Till touch down brings me round again to find.....
I’m not the man!.... they think I am at home...
Oh no ....no no!!! I’m a rocket man.....
Rocket man.... burning out his fuse up here ....alone!

And I think it’s gonna be a long long time,
Till touch down brings me round again to find
I’m not the MAN they think I am at home
Ohhhh no.. no... no... I’m a ROCK-IT-MAN!!!
Rocket man!!! burning out his fuse out here alone...

And I think it’s gonna be.... a lonng lonng time!!
And I think it’s gonna be.... a lonnnnng long time!!
And I think it’s gonna be.... a lonnnng lonnng time!!
And I think it’s gonna be.... a lonnnnng lonnnnnng time!!
And I think it’s gonna be.... a lonng lonng time.......

[Cavallier]

Good luck on Thursday Georgie! Will be keeping my fingers crossed.

The Cav

[MidgetBoy]

I just got my email saying I didn't make it through. I'm guessing it must have been the question "Would you work for Air China if you were offered a job?" I said yes because 3 seconds earlier they asked me, what would you do if Cx NEVER EVER EVER hires you?

For obvious reasons, if my airline of choice says they'd never hire me, I'm not going to quit and give up on being an airline pilot.

[Swush]

Bad luck Midgetboy How long did it take for them to send a rejection email?
I'm waiting anxiously by the phone after I answered a few questions badly in stage 1.

[Flying Fat Angelo]

thanks cavalier
maybe ill see you in a girly bar in wanchai for some tension release tomorrow evening!!

[Johnny1981]

Chin up

Received the e-mail and didn't pass stage 2 so really gutted.......on the other side plan B is in place so I start training in March 2008. Once I have the hours I will apply again as a direct entry pilot.

Just have to put the positive hat on and if you really want to be a pilot you wont let something like this stop you.

by the way 3 in our group haven't got through the 4th one I'm not sure about.......

[MidgetBoy]

It took just under a week to get an email.. of those 3 Johnny, who was the 3rd? Jan?

[sgsslok]

Johnny1981, MidgetBoy-

I'm sorry to hear the news. I hope you are coping with it alright.

I just wanna mention the fact that CX don't usually reject an applicant because he/she answered one question incorrectly. (Not for CPP anyways. They do for Direct-Entries, depending on the question.)

Stage 2 was an all day event, and every part contributes to the final decision that they make. May be you barely spoke in the group exercise? Didn't answer truthfully on the personality test? Screw up the calculations in the Math test and/or the flight planning exercise?

Unfortunately, they usually won't tell you what was(were) your inadequate performance(s). It's up to you to figure it out and possibly try again in a few years!

If this is your first attempt, then you don't necessarily need to get all the licenses and hours to apply for Direct Entry.

CX usually give an applicant 2 attempts at the CPP (unless you really screwed it up), and all you need to do is to show that you have improved.

In fact, about half of the current cadets in Adelaide are re-applicants.

Getting a PPL or may be a CPL would certain prove that you have the dedication for this industry, but there are also improvements you can do without spending a large sum of money to get flight licenses.

In fact, having flight licenses will dramatically increase the difficulty of your technical interview due to your aviation experience. There are people who don't make it through even with licenses and a bunch of hours.

So as I said earlier, think about the things that you thought you could have done better, and try to improve on it and try it again.

Good luck to you all.

[Johnny1981]

Thanks for the reply.....

I'm coping alright with it now as I always had a plan B in place so I know exactly what I'm doing now. I've been applying to schemes since summer 2006 and have been offered places for Oxford Aviation Training, CTC icpWings and Flight Training Europe. So I don't want to wait around for a possible 2nd chance with the Cadet scheme when I can get cracking with the training and hopefully get a job flying A319 / B737's in Europe to build my hours up at the end. Once I have the hrs I will look at applying as a DEFO. I start with FTE in March 2008.

I'm 27 in Feb 2008 and have finished uni and have been working for the past 5years so I'm ready to start training..... I can't wait any longer.

Regarding stage 2 I feel it was the maths that let me down plus a couple of maths questions and tech questions in the tech interview. The group exercise, tech quiz, flight planning were ok.

Midgetboy - Jessie was the other one.

Thanks again

[Flying Fat Angelo]

heya swush i know how you feel
just did my stage 1 interview this morning. tell you what, thought it was going great for a while, but not a good feeling now... !!
let us know how you get on and when you hear back.
good luck!!

[capt_einz111]

OAT, CTC Wings or FTE Jerez is certainly a good choice, with a bit of luck you will get your command of a A320 at the same time the CX-cadet get the JFO upgrade

Also, they probably won't "disqualify" someone on one single question. There are no wrong answers. And it's always a combination of factors.

[Dub-U!]

Tech interview questions?

What type of questions were they asking on the tech portion of the interviews?

[holdmetight]

stage 2 panel interview tech questions

1. identify a 1:200 model of a CX aircraft. in my case, it was an A330-300, and i also had to explain how i came to my conclusion.

2. the interviewer pointed to the A330 model and asked me to identify what high-lift-producing devices were on the wing, where they were and their working principle. i was also asked when such devices would be used, apart from take-offs and landings.

3. i had to identify another model aircraft on the desk, in my case it was the BE76.

4. i was asked why the BE76 does not have a swept wing, as opposed to the A330.

5. identify the primary control surfaces on the BE76.

6. the ailerons on the BE76 were movable, so he asked me to position them as they would be if the aircraft was making a left turn.

then we used the whiteboard from then on...

7. he drew a globe and asked me to identify and draw the two axis going through the earth. after that, i was asked to draw the equator, lines of longitudes and latitudes. i also had to explain what a great circle was.

8. he gave a true heading, and gave variation, and asked me to calculate the magnetic heading.

9. he drew the cross section of a wing and asked me how lift was produced. i also had to draw and explain AOA, movements of the C of P as the AOA increases.

10. draw the inside of an altimeter and explain its workings.

11. he drew a Cu cloud with altitude indications, then asked me to calculate the temperature at the top of the cloud.

12. name the ISA temperature, density, pressure... then he asked what is the temperature at the tropopause, and ISA lapse rate

13. he drew a front and asked me what front it was, according to the shape. then he asked me to identify the clouds associated with the front, according to the order in which they would be encountered by a pilot flying into the front.

14. what is the distance of the equator