CX cadet pilot programme interview in november
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CX is asking for Residence in HK, which I believe used to say Permanent HK Resident. If you can get an identity card (ROA or RTL), you should be good. I'm going back to claim ROA, FWIW.
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Well, I got an interview and I only have my working permit which I got in the summer.
It would seem weird why Cx would require you to have a permanent resident over just a working permit since the only difference is that they can vote. (Correct me if I'm wrong, I would love to know what else I'm restricted to)
Anyways, I've heard that the aircraft at FTA have headsets that are stuck into each aircraft. And since the training will be in some other month, if we had a headset we wouldn't be required to bring it would we?
Does anyone else have some decent experience in aircraft, like over 50 hours or so? (Or any experience at all?)
It would seem weird why Cx would require you to have a permanent resident over just a working permit since the only difference is that they can vote. (Correct me if I'm wrong, I would love to know what else I'm restricted to)
Anyways, I've heard that the aircraft at FTA have headsets that are stuck into each aircraft. And since the training will be in some other month, if we had a headset we wouldn't be required to bring it would we?
Does anyone else have some decent experience in aircraft, like over 50 hours or so? (Or any experience at all?)
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well (IMHO) the reason CX used to require permanent HK residency wasn't due to any political reason, it was just that times were better and the pilot recruitment situation wasn't as crazy as it is now. the cadet recruitment people could afford to select cadets from amongst permanent HK residents, and ignore everyone else. it didn't give them a whole lot of candidates to choose from, but things worked out anyway.
unfortunately, the picture ain't so rosy anymore... check out the other Fragrant Harbour forum for details!!!
about headsets... from what i have been told, you are given a headset by FTA... so you don't need to bring your own. the headset isn't really stuck into the aircraft, so you don't need to worry about what the previous user left on the microphone tip
however, that will change once you enter Cathay.........
unfortunately, the picture ain't so rosy anymore... check out the other Fragrant Harbour forum for details!!!
about headsets... from what i have been told, you are given a headset by FTA... so you don't need to bring your own. the headset isn't really stuck into the aircraft, so you don't need to worry about what the previous user left on the microphone tip
however, that will change once you enter Cathay.........
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Have a PPL w/ Complex endorsement and about to jump on an accelerated IR course. You guys have flown before right? Would be crazy to jump head first into something like this unless you know for sure aviation is in your blood. Good luck to all, hope that I can get my application in soon.
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I'm a few hours short of my CPL.. I don't know what Cx counts as overqualified for their cadet program because to my understanding they prefer to teach students with some hours, but not much so they don't have too many bad habits that they can pick up from other instructors.
I heard the cut off age for the Cadet program was 28, nice to know a lot of you guys are still getting interviews, it shows a little that Cx is desperate for pilots =P gives me a little more hope inside knowing that my flight and hotel booking isn't most likely a very expensive job interview if I get in..
*edit*just read from another thread that some people with frozen atpls apply too.. WHOA! I guess i'm fine =P (I guess they looked past my hours, now I just have to do well in the rest of the interviewing process and flight grading)
I heard the cut off age for the Cadet program was 28, nice to know a lot of you guys are still getting interviews, it shows a little that Cx is desperate for pilots =P gives me a little more hope inside knowing that my flight and hotel booking isn't most likely a very expensive job interview if I get in..
*edit*just read from another thread that some people with frozen atpls apply too.. WHOA! I guess i'm fine =P (I guess they looked past my hours, now I just have to do well in the rest of the interviewing process and flight grading)
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Cx probably changed a lot since they're needing a lot of pilots. Especially now that SIA is going to allow HK working permit holders apply for their cadet program soon.
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midgetboy: You are far from being too qualified. If you have less than 1000 hrs then you can only apply to be a cadet pilot. Also I know a lot of people who have no flying experience at all have been accepted as a cadet.
Anyone know when are they going to confirm the date for the 2nd interview cos they called ages ago and I am starting to get worried.... need that book from them to start learning about planes!!!
Anyone know when are they going to confirm the date for the 2nd interview cos they called ages ago and I am starting to get worried.... need that book from them to start learning about planes!!!
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one of my friends attended the CXCPP career talk that was held in Hong Kong University today... and this is what he heard.
1. they will be doing three cadet courses in 2008, expecting 13 cadets per class.
2. the start dates for these three courses will be May, August and October respectively.
3. applicants who apply after 30th December 2007 and are accepted will be allocated into courses starting in 2009.
1. they will be doing three cadet courses in 2008, expecting 13 cadets per class.
2. the start dates for these three courses will be May, August and October respectively.
3. applicants who apply after 30th December 2007 and are accepted will be allocated into courses starting in 2009.
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Thanks for that, I thought that Cx was looking for mostly non-experienced people or slightly experienced if they were older since they say they want to teach people from scratch. But either way we're still being taught from the basics anyways.
Good luck to everyone!
PS. Omg my hotel is charging me HK$1200 for internet. That's gonna hurt. Booked for a month and I still don't get free internet.
Good luck to everyone!
PS. Omg my hotel is charging me HK$1200 for internet. That's gonna hurt. Booked for a month and I still don't get free internet.
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sugizo20:
yes, i wouldn't be surprised if she had misunderstood the question. would sound very fishy if they put everyone who applied in 2008 into 2009 courses! what do you think she really meant then?
bonbon512:
CX has put up their schedule for their upcoming career talks in local universities, you can find it in the CPP official website. it is as below:
HK Poly U
Date: 15 Nov 07
Time: 1230 - 1400
Venue: N001 Lecture Theatre
HKUST
Date: 22 Nov 07
Time: 1230 - 1400
Venue: Leung Yat Sing Lecture Theatre (LT F)
CUHK
Date: 22 Nov 07
Time: 1700 - 1830
Venue: LT, William M.W. Mong Engineering Building
hope that helps!
yes, i wouldn't be surprised if she had misunderstood the question. would sound very fishy if they put everyone who applied in 2008 into 2009 courses! what do you think she really meant then?
bonbon512:
CX has put up their schedule for their upcoming career talks in local universities, you can find it in the CPP official website. it is as below:
HK Poly U
Date: 15 Nov 07
Time: 1230 - 1400
Venue: N001 Lecture Theatre
HKUST
Date: 22 Nov 07
Time: 1230 - 1400
Venue: Leung Yat Sing Lecture Theatre (LT F)
CUHK
Date: 22 Nov 07
Time: 1700 - 1830
Venue: LT, William M.W. Mong Engineering Building
hope that helps!
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MidgetBoy, did you look at YMCA? My friend working at YVR went to HK in the summer with his wife. He got a nice room with ocean view, and the location is great. I dont remember how much he paid for the room, but he said the price isnt expensive. Check it out.
I want to add a question here. I have been planning for CX cadet for a while and i am going to apply soon. My concern is that I wont have my diploma until next Feb. Can I send in the application now? Does anyone have similar experience?
I want to add a question here. I have been planning for CX cadet for a while and i am going to apply soon. My concern is that I wont have my diploma until next Feb. Can I send in the application now? Does anyone have similar experience?
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Yes, I stayed at the YMCA in the summer too to get my working permit. But since I'm pretty young, my mom wanted to get a hotel closer to Cx City so I'm staying in Tung Chung now. Apparently it's a relatively safe neighborhood too since my Cantonese isn't the greatest. Don't want to get robbed if they think I'm a tourist.
About you applying though, you should apply ASAP and then update them when you finish your diploma. You probably won't get contacted with an interview this early anyways, though they should tell you when they are hiring again so you know you didn't miss the hiring date.
About you applying though, you should apply ASAP and then update them when you finish your diploma. You probably won't get contacted with an interview this early anyways, though they should tell you when they are hiring again so you know you didn't miss the hiring date.
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Not true. 1000TT with CPL, Multi-IR and frozen ATPL is the MINIMUM requirement for DESO. Yet, applicants generally will not be invited for interviews for DESO unless have 3000+ TT with 1000+ multi-engine turbine time. Those experience will take at least a few years at a regional carrier to obtain.
There are more interview stages for Cadets, yet the interviews for Direct Entry pilots are harder and more competitive. Moreover, there are 6-9 months of waiting from employment offer to start date for Direct Entry pilots.
For example, let's say 2 guys finished their flight training with frozen ATPLs at the same time. A got into CPP, while B got into a regional carrier. B would start flying jets/turboprops when A started training in Adelaide. By the time A finished training and start as an SO, B would need another year or so to accumulate enough time for an interview for DESO. By the time B got the time, went through all the interviews, and waited for the start date, A would have 2 to 3 years of seniority ahead of B.
About the money part... can't argue with that. Direct entry pilots make more money.
But there is no faster way to a CX cockpit than being a cadet for a low time pilot.
There are more interview stages for Cadets, yet the interviews for Direct Entry pilots are harder and more competitive. Moreover, there are 6-9 months of waiting from employment offer to start date for Direct Entry pilots.
For example, let's say 2 guys finished their flight training with frozen ATPLs at the same time. A got into CPP, while B got into a regional carrier. B would start flying jets/turboprops when A started training in Adelaide. By the time A finished training and start as an SO, B would need another year or so to accumulate enough time for an interview for DESO. By the time B got the time, went through all the interviews, and waited for the start date, A would have 2 to 3 years of seniority ahead of B.
About the money part... can't argue with that. Direct entry pilots make more money.
But there is no faster way to a CX cockpit than being a cadet for a low time pilot.
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(http://www.cathaypacific.com/cpa/en_...o_requirements)
All Second Officer applicants must meet the following minimum requirements:
All Second Officer applicants must meet the following minimum requirements:
- An ICAO Airline Transport Pilot's License (ATPL) (obtained without exemptions) or ICAO Commercial Pilot's License (CPL) (obtained without exemptions) with passes in all ATPL ground examinations
- A Valid Multi-Engine Instrument Rating
- A minimum of 1000 hours fixed wing (preference will be given to applicants with turbine or multi-engine experience)
- Experience commensurate with age
- A current Class One Medical
- Fluent spoken & written English
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1000 hours is not enough, they probably wouldn't give you an interview with this little time. this is the minimum CX requires for DESOs but if you really want to be competitive, you should be looking at a minimum of about 3000 to 4000 hours? not to mention that they prefer people with multi-engine and turbine time... CX is desperate for pilots but i'm not sure they will just take anyone at the moment.
every coin has two sides, and you choose which side to look at depending on what matters to you. training and then flying bush for 7-8 years, and then applying for DESO in any major airline would be a good thing, in terms of financial compensation. however, if you are keen on pocketing the big bucks, be prepared for a meagre wage during your 7-8 years outside the majors. the time with them will make you competitive but will not thicken your wallet considerably.
CXCPP is kind of like a short-cut for those who are keen on working in the majors. it's true that ex-cadets' wages will differ from their direct-entry counterparts by a significant amount, but they havea head-start in the company. an example of this is their edge in terms of seniority. while a potential DESO applicant is earning his hours outside, a CPL-holder who applied for the CPP will already be in the company, flying the big jets and earning his seniority. 8 years later, when the DESO applicant joins the company, the ex-cadet will already be a F/O. not rocket science!
so again, it all depends on what you're looking for.
my two cents worth
every coin has two sides, and you choose which side to look at depending on what matters to you. training and then flying bush for 7-8 years, and then applying for DESO in any major airline would be a good thing, in terms of financial compensation. however, if you are keen on pocketing the big bucks, be prepared for a meagre wage during your 7-8 years outside the majors. the time with them will make you competitive but will not thicken your wallet considerably.
CXCPP is kind of like a short-cut for those who are keen on working in the majors. it's true that ex-cadets' wages will differ from their direct-entry counterparts by a significant amount, but they havea head-start in the company. an example of this is their edge in terms of seniority. while a potential DESO applicant is earning his hours outside, a CPL-holder who applied for the CPP will already be in the company, flying the big jets and earning his seniority. 8 years later, when the DESO applicant joins the company, the ex-cadet will already be a F/O. not rocket science!
so again, it all depends on what you're looking for.
my two cents worth
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wow! sgsslok you are fast! 15 minutes earlier than me in saying exactly what i had wanted to say.
anyway, i don't think CX gives housing benefits to cadets, no matter which stage of career they are in.
anyway, i don't think CX gives housing benefits to cadets, no matter which stage of career they are in.