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They might fly with airphils 
Air Philippines sets refleeting program
Monday, 05 October 2009 20:38
AIR Philippines, the low-cost partner of flag carrier Philippine Airlines (PAL), will undergo a refleeting program before the end of the year.
“Air Philippines will soon announce its refleeting plan since it is a separate company. It will operate on its own. It will be a whole new Air Phil.,” said PAL president Jaime Bautista.
Air Philippines is 99-percent owned by the Lucio Tan Group of Companies. PAL, on the other hand, is 95-percent owned by the group.
Air Philippines, for the moment, has ceased operations. “Yes, it has stopped flying the 737-200 jet aircraft because these consume more jet fuel than other types of aircraft. It needs to be replaced,” Bautista said.
PAL Express, another low-fare unit of PAL, is currently flying the routes assigned to Air Philippines, added Bautista.
Both PAL and Air Philippines, said the PAL executive, are looking to strengthen their operations with modest fleet and route network buildups despite predictions by the International Air Transport Association of a dip in industry earnings due to higher fuel prices.
The two airlines have had close complementation in their flight operations, feeding passengers into each other’s networks and ensuring seamless connections via their joint hubs at Naia Centennial Terminal 2 in Manila and Mactan International Airport in Cebu.
Bautista said the partnership of PAL and Air Philippines yielded operational synergies that enabled the alliance to deliver a superior product to passengers.
Air Philippines carried 254, 244 passengers in the first half of the year out of the possible 335,392 seats while PAL transported 3,207,060.
The company used to operate Bombardier Q300 turbo-prop aircraft but these are now being operated by PAL Express, which carried a total of 623,000 passengers from April 2008 to March 2009.
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Air Philippines sets refleeting program
Monday, 05 October 2009 20:38
AIR Philippines, the low-cost partner of flag carrier Philippine Airlines (PAL), will undergo a refleeting program before the end of the year.
“Air Philippines will soon announce its refleeting plan since it is a separate company. It will operate on its own. It will be a whole new Air Phil.,” said PAL president Jaime Bautista.
Air Philippines is 99-percent owned by the Lucio Tan Group of Companies. PAL, on the other hand, is 95-percent owned by the group.
Air Philippines, for the moment, has ceased operations. “Yes, it has stopped flying the 737-200 jet aircraft because these consume more jet fuel than other types of aircraft. It needs to be replaced,” Bautista said.
PAL Express, another low-fare unit of PAL, is currently flying the routes assigned to Air Philippines, added Bautista.
Both PAL and Air Philippines, said the PAL executive, are looking to strengthen their operations with modest fleet and route network buildups despite predictions by the International Air Transport Association of a dip in industry earnings due to higher fuel prices.
The two airlines have had close complementation in their flight operations, feeding passengers into each other’s networks and ensuring seamless connections via their joint hubs at Naia Centennial Terminal 2 in Manila and Mactan International Airport in Cebu.
Bautista said the partnership of PAL and Air Philippines yielded operational synergies that enabled the alliance to deliver a superior product to passengers.
Air Philippines carried 254, 244 passengers in the first half of the year out of the possible 335,392 seats while PAL transported 3,207,060.
The company used to operate Bombardier Q300 turbo-prop aircraft but these are now being operated by PAL Express, which carried a total of 623,000 passengers from April 2008 to March 2009.
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Air Philippines sets refleeting program
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PAL Express is on a hiring freeze. is this recent development? I don't see any new Q400 or Q300 lately. what will these newbies be flying?
As I wrote, I was told that they will accept applications from certain relatively low-time pilots. Nothing was said about actually training or hiring anybody.
The latest word about PAL Express is that they'll be acquiring A320s with the high-density seating config similar to those of 5J and Zest. Scouts have located some candidate aircraft in China. A number of PAL A320 pilots who were rehired after retirement on a contractual basis after turning 60 are on the short list for the first positions. A Q300/400 captain I spoke with told me he is on deck for A320 training.
So there is obviously something serious going on. Whether or not PAL Express will actually ever operate A320s remains to be seen. Talk is cheap. Actual planning is more difficult. It would seem that they have gone well beyond the planning stage and there are real names on the crew roster. Wait and see.
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PAL Express is on a hiring freeze. is this recent development? I don't see any new Q400 or Q300 lately. what will these newbies be flying?
As I wrote, I was told that they will accept applications from certain relatively low-time pilots. Nothing was said about actually training or hiring anybody.
The latest word about PAL Express is that they'll be acquiring A320s with the high-density seating config similar to those of 5J and Zest. Scouts have located some candidate aircraft in China. A number of PAL A320 pilots who were rehired after retirement on a contractual basis after turning 60 are on the short list for the first positions. A Q300/400 captain I spoke with told me he is on deck for A320 training.
So there is obviously something serious going on. Whether or not PAL Express will actually ever operate A320s remains to be seen. Talk is cheap. Actual planning is more difficult. It would seem that they have gone well beyond the planning stage and there are real names on the crew roster. Wait and see.
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2007 Alpha graduated already!
Now that 2007A has graduated will 2009 bravo and charlie go to Clark? And will PAL AV school processing new applicants for pilot trainee?
I have been preparing hard last few months for this and I belive that I am ready for 2010 alpha.
I have been preparing hard last few months for this and I belive that I am ready for 2010 alpha.
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2010 alpha
I doubt if there will be a 2010 alpha. Situation is, pal av can actually accomodate more students but the limiting factor is the barracks. The reason for the delay of 2009 bravo going to clark is because they have to wait for 2007a to graduate so they can occupy their rooms. same as for 2009 charlie, they have to wait for 2007 bravo to graduate(expected april 2010) before they can go to clark. So 2010 alpha will have to wait for 2009 alpha to graduate and knowing that 2007a took 2 years and 2 months to graduate, 2010 alpha is a long shot. good luck!
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An oversupply of PAL pilot trainees?
hmmm... could there be an oversupply of PAL pilot trainees? Do you think PAL can accommodate most of their graduates given that PAL accepted quite a number of students for 2009 and are now members of 2009 Alpha, 2009 Bravo and 2009 Charlie?
Here's the situation:
2007 Alpha has just graduated. And now, they'll be looking for their sweet spot in the industry (hopefully with PAL). Having logged 200+ hours in their logbooks, each one of them is hoping that PAL would take them in as SO.
2007 Bravo is still in training but getting there..
2009 Alpha and 2009 Bravo have commenced on their training. Not sure about 2009 Charlie.
Given the current situation of our aviation industry (CAT 2 downgrade, stiff competition with OAL), an airlines' loss in fuel hedges, etc. can PAL take in most of these hopefulls in the line right after graduation? Or would they have to wait for _x_ months / years to get in the line? After devoting 2 years of your life to schooling, spending millions of pesos for training, getting unwavering support from your families, making other sacrifices, it would definitely be frustrating to end up with nada after going through the whole process.
Could there be a bottleneck of students at the of the road?
What will the future hold for those who will not make it in the line?
What's your take?
Here's the situation:
2007 Alpha has just graduated. And now, they'll be looking for their sweet spot in the industry (hopefully with PAL). Having logged 200+ hours in their logbooks, each one of them is hoping that PAL would take them in as SO.
2007 Bravo is still in training but getting there..
2009 Alpha and 2009 Bravo have commenced on their training. Not sure about 2009 Charlie.
Given the current situation of our aviation industry (CAT 2 downgrade, stiff competition with OAL), an airlines' loss in fuel hedges, etc. can PAL take in most of these hopefulls in the line right after graduation? Or would they have to wait for _x_ months / years to get in the line? After devoting 2 years of your life to schooling, spending millions of pesos for training, getting unwavering support from your families, making other sacrifices, it would definitely be frustrating to end up with nada after going through the whole process.
Could there be a bottleneck of students at the of the road?
What will the future hold for those who will not make it in the line?
What's your take?
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RE: An oversupply of PAL pilot trainees?
hi flight_time!
regarding your post, i wish someone would shed some light regarding the current situation... I myself wish to enter this profession and in need of some advice. I have posted some questions in the other thread..
Everyone, pls feel free to visit the thread:
http://www.pprune.org/south-asia-far...ippines-3.html
You may PM me if you want...
Thanks!
abacada
regarding your post, i wish someone would shed some light regarding the current situation... I myself wish to enter this profession and in need of some advice. I have posted some questions in the other thread..
Everyone, pls feel free to visit the thread:
http://www.pprune.org/south-asia-far...ippines-3.html
You may PM me if you want...
Thanks!
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PAL Av? clark av? or gen av?
Definitely there will be a bottleneck in getting into PAL after graduating at PAL aviation school. But the advantage of graduating in PAL Av as compared to other aviation school is that graduates get priority in getting hired by PAL. Only PAL graduates get hired as second officers with only 200+ hours. That is a huge bargain than flying in other schools that are cheaper but does not guarantee being hired. PAL hires pilots from general aviation with 1000+ hours in single engine or I think 500+ hours on a twin engine (do correct me if I am wrong) and even with those hours, you’ll have to wait for Pal av graduates to get hired before you get your chance. BUT! if you have a contact from the inside with high power, then you probably would be hired with less hours.
The only flying school that has an edge against pal aviation is clark aviation. But then again, I heard that they have stopped accepting new applicants and only those with sponsorship from cebu pac have a future and others will be left waiting for someone to lend their a320 to get their rating.
Really if you do the math, you will end up spending less money with pal av. Trainees only pay P1500 for accommodation per month. Airlink trainees pay 1500 per day for accommodation + the cost of getting to lubang every week.
The only flying school that has an edge against pal aviation is clark aviation. But then again, I heard that they have stopped accepting new applicants and only those with sponsorship from cebu pac have a future and others will be left waiting for someone to lend their a320 to get their rating.
Really if you do the math, you will end up spending less money with pal av. Trainees only pay P1500 for accommodation per month. Airlink trainees pay 1500 per day for accommodation + the cost of getting to lubang every week.
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09Charlie/10Alpha
I heard 09C has started and they were "upgraded" to 2010A! They might finish their ground school around March/April, in time for 07B's graduation so all batch 09 will be staying in Clark for the next year or two.
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Hi Guys,
Does anyone know if PAL AVIATION requires flight instructors ?
Anyone has an E-Mail adres to mail my resume to ?
Thanks,
Fly safe !
Gary
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Does anyone know if PAL AVIATION requires flight instructors ?
Anyone has an E-Mail adres to mail my resume to ?
Thanks,
Fly safe !
Gary
[email protected]
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PAL has just let go of 11 A320 captains and 7 A320 first officers as well as several wide-body pilots who are over 60 years old. This is all part of cost cutting and preparation for Air Philippines' A320 operations.
None of the pilots are happy with this situation and many are planning to leave the airline. Perhaps that will create openings for fresh Avschool grads in the long run.
Note: Most PAL Avschool instructors are ex-Air Link or worse. The standard of training is rather low compared to some other schools. They do have the nicest planes, though. If you just need a license and want a good shot at getting into PAL, Avschool is your best bet. But if you want to learn how to fly, you need to go somewhere else.
None of the pilots are happy with this situation and many are planning to leave the airline. Perhaps that will create openings for fresh Avschool grads in the long run.
Note: Most PAL Avschool instructors are ex-Air Link or worse. The standard of training is rather low compared to some other schools. They do have the nicest planes, though. If you just need a license and want a good shot at getting into PAL, Avschool is your best bet. But if you want to learn how to fly, you need to go somewhere else.
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Air Philippines A320
PAL is about to give around 8 A320 to Air Philippines..is it true?, there's a lot of rumors buzzing around regarding the reincarnation of this airline, are we expecting more surprises to come
11 Capts. and 7 FO? wow!! That's a lot...
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PAL sinking
PAL is sinking. inside information: LT wants out of business but no wise businessman will take the millions of debt. LT went to EVA to wet lease 777 but EVA do not like it. PAL pilots are looking for jobs. many are eyeing Asiana.
Admin pilots also fired. one was the padrino man (ex ALPAP officer). another is everybody's enemy.
Admin pilots also fired. one was the padrino man (ex ALPAP officer). another is everybody's enemy.