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Old 23rd Dec 2006, 18:57
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Need Help with Paperwork

I'm currently trying to fill out the paperwork for round two in hong Kong. Can someone please help me with a couple of questions reguarding Flight time

1. When completing the flight time summary and the CAD app, what is conidered PIC U/S? I have read the defnitions in the Appendix I but it is not really clear.

2. Currently I fly as an F/O on a RJ in the US, we switch legs every other flight along with the duties of Flying Pilot, and Pilot Monitoring. I am not the PIC but I am the flying pilot. Would this time I Fly count under PIC U/S (Co-pilot flying under the supervison of PIC) or would this be P2?

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In your case as an FO, P1/US or PIC/US are the legs that you fly, i.e acting as the PF. Really all it means is Pilot in Command Under Supervision. P2 is all the time you're acting as the PNF. You're going to have to go through all your SIC time and figure out which legs you flew and log them as P1/US and all the legs you didn't make up your P2 time.
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thanks looks like that might take a little while.
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I will tell you that it is worth the work.. One your books are in the CAD office there is nothing you can do anymore...

Good luck!!
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TX

It shouldn't take long at all - it's half your time with that company.

As an aside; I consider loging flying time this way. The Pilot in Command signs the log book. If you didn't sign the log book you are not pilot in command.
PIC U/S I always thought was meant for upgrade training eg. training in the left seat. You are PIC cuz you sign the log book but you are not yet released by the company for the full privileges of a Captain therefore you are under supervision.
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Old 25th Dec 2006, 12:34
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Thanks for all the help guys. One more question, how to you have your logbooks verifyed? Sounds like a dumb question, but my current employer says they have no way of verifying this. The only thing I can do is print our flt log summaries from the internal website.
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Old School CAA thing!

Once again this is just an old school CAA thing to stop people from cooking the books. Most systems that are still close to the old British CAA require that you get your logbooks verified. All this entails in a company stamp by someone that can verify your flight times, i.e operations or rostering. In your case as was the same with me transitioning from the States you can't get a stamped verification so your printed flight logs will have to do. If you can get a letter accompanying the logs it should be fine.
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