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Instead of listening to people who have gone through the course and know exactly what licenses they have, Flyingmoggy seems to think he can and has figured out how the course is structured by applying his own brand of 'logic'. Here's a lesson for you: if your 'logic' doesn't lead you to agree with what has actually happened, chances are your are wrong. Admit your mistake, learn from people who have been trying to help and put your energy into doing a better job next time. That's how you become a good leader.
I mean no disrespect to any education institutions but as you're applying to join an international airline, shouldn't you have a more worldly view on reality? Do you seriously think the world regards a degree from your university as highly as you evidently do? If you think your academic background (assuming you complete your degree with a respectable grade) makes you stand out in our company then you're in for a big big shock.
How do you think you'd compare as a graduating cadet after 14 months of training with someone who has worked in GA for 10 years? A university degree being superior to a diploma by default? Your demonstration of shooting yourself in the foot is truely comical.
You are a big enough embarrassment as a hopeful, the ex-cadet fraternity would rather you do something else in life.
I mean no disrespect to any education institutions but as you're applying to join an international airline, shouldn't you have a more worldly view on reality? Do you seriously think the world regards a degree from your university as highly as you evidently do? If you think your academic background (assuming you complete your degree with a respectable grade) makes you stand out in our company then you're in for a big big shock.
How do you think you'd compare as a graduating cadet after 14 months of training with someone who has worked in GA for 10 years? A university degree being superior to a diploma by default? Your demonstration of shooting yourself in the foot is truely comical.
You are a big enough embarrassment as a hopeful, the ex-cadet fraternity would rather you do something else in life.
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lets see, is a degree regaurded as highly as i think, i don't know what you undertook in university or even been to one, but hmm last time i checked, doctors, lawyers, engineers, and a lot of other professions cannot be pursued without a degree, so for starters your base off point IS this all useless degree as you are suggesting
as for the argument between diploma and bachelor, i was merely stating my view on the issue, go through and read it again, your flaming me because you think i said that IS the case, if your telling me i don't have a freedom to express my views then i will leave this forum
as for wether the course is hard or not i haven't even mentioned anything along those lines, and from the posts i don't see much advice rather a lot of useless flaming, if you want to give advice maybe u should do it a little more nicely, if i wanted a lecture on these issues i have better professors to refer to
nowhere did i mention a degree will make me stand out anywhere in CX apart from the application, and degree i undertake while working, or b4 (if ever) i get in is purely my benefits shall i fail or dislike the industry in the future
if it is in the same field and stream then i would say yes, a bachelor title is more superior to a diploma title, if you say no to that give me some examples of how a bachelor title is not more superior, nowhere did i say that a diploma was easy either
if you are truely trying to help me then lets all just chill out a bit and i'll appologize on all matters that has your outraged, as i've said i did not intend to start agruments
as for the argument between diploma and bachelor, i was merely stating my view on the issue, go through and read it again, your flaming me because you think i said that IS the case, if your telling me i don't have a freedom to express my views then i will leave this forum
as for wether the course is hard or not i haven't even mentioned anything along those lines, and from the posts i don't see much advice rather a lot of useless flaming, if you want to give advice maybe u should do it a little more nicely, if i wanted a lecture on these issues i have better professors to refer to
nowhere did i mention a degree will make me stand out anywhere in CX apart from the application, and degree i undertake while working, or b4 (if ever) i get in is purely my benefits shall i fail or dislike the industry in the future
A university degree being superior to a diploma by default? Your demonstration of shooting yourself in the foot is truely comical.
if you are truely trying to help me then lets all just chill out a bit and i'll appologize on all matters that has your outraged, as i've said i did not intend to start agruments
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Im new in here so hello everyone,
actualy I didnt read all of it but I think we all should calmdown. He may have been unsuccessful in expressing his opinion but im sure he didnt mean it , he posted this thread to get some answers for sure even tho he was thinkin too highly of himself I still think we should calm down since he already realized his mistake.
have a good day everyone
actualy I didnt read all of it but I think we all should calmdown. He may have been unsuccessful in expressing his opinion but im sure he didnt mean it , he posted this thread to get some answers for sure even tho he was thinkin too highly of himself I still think we should calm down since he already realized his mistake.
have a good day everyone
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lets see, is a degree regaurded as highly as i think, i don't know what you undertook in university or even been to one, but hmm last time i checked, doctors, lawyers, engineers, and a lot of other professions cannot be pursued without a degree, so for starters your base off point IS this all useless degree as you are suggesting
5 passes in HKCEE / O-Level, including Physics and Mathematics, together with 2 passes in HKAL / A levels, preferably in Science
a degree is not a must for pilot. and at least one F7 graduate made it and was interviewed by a local newspaper.
another question, how highly do they look at someone with a diploma? personally i think its retarded to say a person holding any kind of diploma has a high education level standard
People do have the freedom to express such kind of opinion and other people also have the freedom to express the opinion on such opinion.
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BTW, I think the discussion of the importance of a degree is away from the theme of the whole forum. At least, it's not a Professiona Pilot Rumour.....
It's wonderful that everyone can express his/her opinions here and it's also wonderful that everyone can log on to this fourm, including CX's management/cadet recruitment.
The double-degree (engineering & law) at a certain uni in Oz/top high school/failed in April this year can enable the recruitment team to identify the person. oopps, I missed out the most important point - the personality and attitude.
I was told that successful candidates need to be self-confident but not over-confident.
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If not rectified, one mistake needs more mistakes to cover up.
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Flyingingmoggy,
From your previous post, it proves to everyone that you are starting to realize your own faults. That’s how we learn and become a better person.
Do you realizes that you have an attitude problem? When half of dozen people pointed out your weaknesses? Your posts were offensive and very hardlined and from the tone of it,it makes people feel you have a personality problem. You were very cocky, over-confidence and tried to pick a fight by critizing someones written English skills. And you know, I also find your writing skills need improvement as well. Needless to say,my writing isn’t as good and I have been working on it for many years.
In terms of the degree and diploma issue, it seems it is something that you will never get over it. Like I said, you're just an average joe after you graduated. Here in North America, esp in Canada, companies values both education backgrounds as long as there is adequate work experience.
Don't take this personally, but I find you are so "full" of yourself. You emphsises a great deal with your famous schools and double degrees. You think you are some hot shots, with this know it all attitude. If you keep it this way and rubbing it on people,someone WILL eventually tell you to shut the **** up and shoved your pride up your arse.
You are still young and naïve, go work for a while, learn life,meet people that YOU can’t get from your University life. Its a dog eat dog work out here and your education won’t prepare you for it.
The TURTH is always a b!t*h, learn from it and live with it. Everyone here including myself hate to shoot you down in a public forum, but you were asking for it.
Take care!
From your previous post, it proves to everyone that you are starting to realize your own faults. That’s how we learn and become a better person.
Do you realizes that you have an attitude problem? When half of dozen people pointed out your weaknesses? Your posts were offensive and very hardlined and from the tone of it,it makes people feel you have a personality problem. You were very cocky, over-confidence and tried to pick a fight by critizing someones written English skills. And you know, I also find your writing skills need improvement as well. Needless to say,my writing isn’t as good and I have been working on it for many years.
In terms of the degree and diploma issue, it seems it is something that you will never get over it. Like I said, you're just an average joe after you graduated. Here in North America, esp in Canada, companies values both education backgrounds as long as there is adequate work experience.
Don't take this personally, but I find you are so "full" of yourself. You emphsises a great deal with your famous schools and double degrees. You think you are some hot shots, with this know it all attitude. If you keep it this way and rubbing it on people,someone WILL eventually tell you to shut the **** up and shoved your pride up your arse.
You are still young and naïve, go work for a while, learn life,meet people that YOU can’t get from your University life. Its a dog eat dog work out here and your education won’t prepare you for it.
The TURTH is always a b!t*h, learn from it and live with it. Everyone here including myself hate to shoot you down in a public forum, but you were asking for it.
Take care!
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Hi,
The truth is when most of us here, in this thread, were trying to point out what flyingmoggy's confused of and offer one's opinion on certain subject. And for the reason why truth can be a b**ch is because to some people, it is difficult to accept true facts or better yet refuse to listen from others.
From the begin of this thread, I have no intention to instigate an argurment with flyingmoggy at all, but as the post progresses, the issues were just piling up and flyingmoggy began to point fingers at each other and ticked everybody off.
And flyingmoggy, you have created another monster thread at the Fragrant Harbour Wannabes
The truth is when most of us here, in this thread, were trying to point out what flyingmoggy's confused of and offer one's opinion on certain subject. And for the reason why truth can be a b**ch is because to some people, it is difficult to accept true facts or better yet refuse to listen from others.
From the begin of this thread, I have no intention to instigate an argurment with flyingmoggy at all, but as the post progresses, the issues were just piling up and flyingmoggy began to point fingers at each other and ticked everybody off.
And flyingmoggy, you have created another monster thread at the Fragrant Harbour Wannabes
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Sorry this is FlyingMoggy, for some reason i cannot post with the other account. I appologize for the informally structured posts previously, as i've said i'm currently on break so its been months since i last wrote anything formal. I don't mean to disrespect anyone with a diploma, i do not know the situation overseas but in Australia or more precisely down at Melbourne CBD district a bachelor means a lot more to most major company. Many of my friends from my first high school did not get through VCE so they never went on to study a bachelor degree however they were able to achieve diploma status. While talking to them online sometime back they told me that major firms actually replied by telling them there were applicants with bachelor title and suggested my friend to obtain one himself before he applies again. This was some engineering position down at Altona Toyota factory. This may not be the case in your country but most the job advertisements here in Australia requires a bachelor title or at least most the decent paying positions.
I grew up in Australia and from all i learn and see if i want a good job with high pay in Australia the correct road is obtaining a bachelor title then maybe a master. I think some of yous should consider my position before just abusing me. In Melbourne slightly over half the high school grads gets into bachelor degree. That equates to a large amount seeking jobs with bachelor titles so i cannot see a diploma grad getting ever getting a job in prefernce.
This title discussion of course has nothing to do with applying for cadets. I attended the interview after only one year in my course which means i don't hold any sort of titles yet.
Didn\'t see you post before i clicked submit, but hey i was always good at drawing attention and escalating issues lol
I grew up in Australia and from all i learn and see if i want a good job with high pay in Australia the correct road is obtaining a bachelor title then maybe a master. I think some of yous should consider my position before just abusing me. In Melbourne slightly over half the high school grads gets into bachelor degree. That equates to a large amount seeking jobs with bachelor titles so i cannot see a diploma grad getting ever getting a job in prefernce.
This title discussion of course has nothing to do with applying for cadets. I attended the interview after only one year in my course which means i don't hold any sort of titles yet.
Didn\'t see you post before i clicked submit, but hey i was always good at drawing attention and escalating issues lol
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it's good to see how most of us are cool now, u noe there's no point to start any arguement at all. Anyway, I personally fail the cadet interview early this yr, btw,it was in April as well, how co-incident!!
As i've said b4 that im currently studying this diploma course in Sydney, and hopefully by the end of next yr I'd hab my instructor rating. Just have a question to those who are wroking for CX, to what level of technical questions would they ask? Cos it is obvious that they gonna look at my log book n knowing i got some flying hours. Also, how would u guys look at some 21yrs old instructor (young & in-experience?) plz comments.
Thank you very much people!
Ken
Oh, btw Flyingmoggy, I reckon it is a good idea to find a part-time job n earn some work experience too, i mean just work with anything for now (there's nothing wrong with KFC or wat so eva...haha, cos u do get to know alot of things that you can't find at Uni.)
cheers buddy!
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hehehe i actually did work at KFC for a while, i still remember the origial recipe chicken is cooked in the pressurised cookers for 18 minutes at 210 degrees......and........just a thing, if u like the potato and gravy stop reading now, they stuff they use to make it is whats collected at the bottom of the chicken cooker, prolly half the reason why its so tasty lol
btw after i came back from april i worked for a few months, all part time and cash payment so i have no real info i can send into CX, tried to earn the $$$ to pay for my PPL, but only got a few grands
my parents are paying the rest for now, i enjoy flying a lot and i hope to get another chance at the interview b4 uni starts next year, because once uni starts i'll be left with 2 choices to attend interviews, either late july or december next year
btw after i came back from april i worked for a few months, all part time and cash payment so i have no real info i can send into CX, tried to earn the $$$ to pay for my PPL, but only got a few grands
my parents are paying the rest for now, i enjoy flying a lot and i hope to get another chance at the interview b4 uni starts next year, because once uni starts i'll be left with 2 choices to attend interviews, either late july or december next year
