Pass Your Dragonair Selection.
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The KA pilot interview and selection process is a relatively straightforward affair and should pose no problems for anyone with at least a minimum amount of common sense and reasonable hands and feet skills. Lego expertise, longboat proficiency or bridge building and engineering skills are not required for entry into this airline.
The selection process is generally broken down into two days. If you get through Day 1, you’ll be invited back to Day 2 and that’s about the size of it completely. It’s a no-nonsense personality, skills and background assessment procedure.
Day 1
You’ll be interviewed by at least two (very senior) people from Human Resources and / or Flight Operations. This interview can last anything from 20 minutes to one hour. The vast majority of the questions will involve your history and background. The standard “Tell us about yourself...” types of questions, which can be found in any decent interview book, will come up. It is also possible that a number of aviation related questions could be asked here, so be prepared. Your qualifications will be looked at and your logs books scrutinized with a fine-tooth-comb.
Day 2
Within 14 days of your initial interview, you’ll be notified of the result. Should you be successful you will accordingly be invited back for Day 2. This will involve a technical interview, usually conducted by one of the Senior HR Managers as well as (at least) another two senior flying types. This should last up to an hour culminating in a short pre-simulator briefing regarding your planned assessment
Later in the day you will be stuck in the box for 30 minutes and that is the end of it. There is also usually a social event planned for an evening in a pub somewhere, but this (in my opinion) has nothing to do with the actual recruitment process and your wives will not be interrogated.
Some Advice
1. DO NOT BULLSH!T THESE PEOPLE!!!! They will find out. Just be yourself.
2. When replying to a question, talk to everyone in the room.
3. Give much thought to cultural differences and working together within a totally multi-cultural environment.
4. Remember, this airline belongs to the Chinese people. Essentially you are an invited guest into their house.
5. Know everything about HK Dragon Airlines.
6. Know everything about life in HK.
7. Study “How to Pass your Cathay interview” by Captains X, Y and Z.
8. Study your Performance A. (I used "Understanding Performance" by AJ Walters and found it to be brilliant)
9. If you’re type rated, know your aircraft.
Simulator.
This is exactly what you’d expect it to be and actually quite a lot of fun. The blokes involved in these checks are all really good guys and are not looking for Biggles. The ride goes something like this and it’s no big secret. They will fill you in on Day 2.
Take off – climb to 3000 ft - level off - clean up and cruise at 250 kts.
Left and right medium turns.
Radar vectored ILS to Cat 1 minimums.
Go around.
Engine Fire.
Radar vectored ILS and land.
In Closing
Quite a high number of applicants are not invited back to Day 2.
Only they know what they are looking for in you. If you try and put on a show, you'll probably regret it.
You need to really want this job and also to have something to offer KA. Get that message across.
Somebody told me that the selection process was a ".. pretty good d!ckhead filter..", I believe that it is.
It's the best darn airline job going!
Good luck dude!
PS: Edited to add point 9 reference.
The KA pilot interview and selection process is a relatively straightforward affair and should pose no problems for anyone with at least a minimum amount of common sense and reasonable hands and feet skills. Lego expertise, longboat proficiency or bridge building and engineering skills are not required for entry into this airline.
The selection process is generally broken down into two days. If you get through Day 1, you’ll be invited back to Day 2 and that’s about the size of it completely. It’s a no-nonsense personality, skills and background assessment procedure.
Day 1
You’ll be interviewed by at least two (very senior) people from Human Resources and / or Flight Operations. This interview can last anything from 20 minutes to one hour. The vast majority of the questions will involve your history and background. The standard “Tell us about yourself...” types of questions, which can be found in any decent interview book, will come up. It is also possible that a number of aviation related questions could be asked here, so be prepared. Your qualifications will be looked at and your logs books scrutinized with a fine-tooth-comb.
Day 2
Within 14 days of your initial interview, you’ll be notified of the result. Should you be successful you will accordingly be invited back for Day 2. This will involve a technical interview, usually conducted by one of the Senior HR Managers as well as (at least) another two senior flying types. This should last up to an hour culminating in a short pre-simulator briefing regarding your planned assessment
Later in the day you will be stuck in the box for 30 minutes and that is the end of it. There is also usually a social event planned for an evening in a pub somewhere, but this (in my opinion) has nothing to do with the actual recruitment process and your wives will not be interrogated.
Some Advice
1. DO NOT BULLSH!T THESE PEOPLE!!!! They will find out. Just be yourself.
2. When replying to a question, talk to everyone in the room.
3. Give much thought to cultural differences and working together within a totally multi-cultural environment.
4. Remember, this airline belongs to the Chinese people. Essentially you are an invited guest into their house.
5. Know everything about HK Dragon Airlines.
6. Know everything about life in HK.
7. Study “How to Pass your Cathay interview” by Captains X, Y and Z.
8. Study your Performance A. (I used "Understanding Performance" by AJ Walters and found it to be brilliant)
9. If you’re type rated, know your aircraft.
Simulator.
This is exactly what you’d expect it to be and actually quite a lot of fun. The blokes involved in these checks are all really good guys and are not looking for Biggles. The ride goes something like this and it’s no big secret. They will fill you in on Day 2.
Take off – climb to 3000 ft - level off - clean up and cruise at 250 kts.
Left and right medium turns.
Radar vectored ILS to Cat 1 minimums.
Go around.
Engine Fire.
Radar vectored ILS and land.
In Closing
Quite a high number of applicants are not invited back to Day 2.
Only they know what they are looking for in you. If you try and put on a show, you'll probably regret it.
You need to really want this job and also to have something to offer KA. Get that message across.
Somebody told me that the selection process was a ".. pretty good d!ckhead filter..", I believe that it is.
It's the best darn airline job going!
Good luck dude!
PS: Edited to add point 9 reference.
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Further Advice...
As far as exactly what questions you can expect to be asked goes; again, this is not rocket science. The vast majority of these airlines ask the same questions and you already know what to expect. It would be grossly unfair to all concerned, to post a list of questions here however, there are ways of working out what to expect. Get your hands on the two books mentioned above and possibly even the one by Captains X. Y and Z written for Emirates. Skip through all that airline specific junk and the stuff about Mechano, Lego and Viking Boats, and work on the technical and personal stuff. Buying a book on airline interviews (not the American Dr Phil variety) would do no harm either. Having said that, KA are looking for team players, future captains and long-term investment employees.
Any other KA blokes having an insight into this subject, feel free to post here!
Understanding Performance
by AJ Walters
ISBN No. 0-9541815-0-6
HERE
Preparing for your Cathay Pacific Interview
By Captains X, Y and Z.
HERE
Preparing for your Emirates Interview
By Captains X, Y and Z.
HERE
Any other KA blokes having an insight into this subject, feel free to post here!
Understanding Performance
by AJ Walters
ISBN No. 0-9541815-0-6
HERE
Preparing for your Cathay Pacific Interview
By Captains X, Y and Z.
HERE
Preparing for your Emirates Interview
By Captains X, Y and Z.
HERE
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Great gouge - thanks. I want to get a resume to Dragon but what's the process? I've looked at their website but they only mention the cadet program, are they still wanting ex-pats? And, if so, do I just send a resume their way? Any info would be appreciated.
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126.9,
Your darn right about being honest. I was not as perfectly honest as I could have been. Seems it must have been apparent. Bummer, seemed like a good company to work for. Oh well, down to lifes learning curve.
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Your darn right about being honest. I was not as perfectly honest as I could have been. Seems it must have been apparent. Bummer, seemed like a good company to work for. Oh well, down to lifes learning curve.
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Hi all,
Good posting BUT... The 'informal' drinks after the sim is were many people ruin what they have build up to get that far!!!
Don't be thinking you are best mates with em after those few pints of lager!!!!
Behave and be sociable!!! (Sounds obvious but you'd be surprised...)
Good posting BUT... The 'informal' drinks after the sim is were many people ruin what they have build up to get that far!!!
Don't be thinking you are best mates with em after those few pints of lager!!!!
Behave and be sociable!!! (Sounds obvious but you'd be surprised...)
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When and How Many?
Another thing: If you need any info regarding when they're hiring, or freight fleet hiring versus pax fleet hiring, you'll have to ask Dragonair directly. I personally am rather reluctant to post that sort of rumour here, and that is all you'll get here on that subject: RUMOUR mate!
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Who To Contact..?
Email applications go HERE, otherwise maill your paperwork to:
c/o Ann Law
L2, Dragonair House
11 Tung Fai Road,
Hong Kong International Airport,
Lantau,
Hong Kong
You can try calling or faxing the following Head Office numbers if you really want to:
Tel: (852) 3193-3193
Fax: (852) 3193-3194
c/o Ann Law
L2, Dragonair House
11 Tung Fai Road,
Hong Kong International Airport,
Lantau,
Hong Kong
You can try calling or faxing the following Head Office numbers if you really want to:
Tel: (852) 3193-3193
Fax: (852) 3193-3194
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Sorry mate, I can't. But I'm sure that someone else here can. It's just that I'm not going to publish anything that is Dragonair OFFICIAL here without a mandate from the company to do so. I'm sure you'll understand. I love this company and it's people and don't want to misrepresent them.
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Well Done !!
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What a brilliant attitude amigo. I am so pleased to here someone say those words about his profession and his company. All of us here at EK have heard really nice things about Dragon Air.
From what I have read in this forum and all the others. The only two airlines that their pilots are happy are Dragon and Virgin Atlantic.
Regards
What a brilliant attitude amigo. I am so pleased to here someone say those words about his profession and his company. All of us here at EK have heard really nice things about Dragon Air.
From what I have read in this forum and all the others. The only two airlines that their pilots are happy are Dragon and Virgin Atlantic.
Regards
Check Six, 'Happy' is a relative term! Perhaps grateful not to be working for some other employers would be a more appropriate description. Most new employees at Ka are happy, however one must only look at their less than desirable former employers to understand why. The happiness fades as the memory of the former employer fades, Cheers.
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Like I said (from the inside): "... a sad and pathetic opinion ...".
Some bloke tries to do good and help people and colleagues on the outside get in, and all he has to deal with is mud-slinging and trying to keep others from dragging his profession into the gutter.
Some bloke tries to do good and help people and colleagues on the outside get in, and all he has to deal with is mud-slinging and trying to keep others from dragging his profession into the gutter.
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Understanding PERFORMANCE AJ Walters
hey guys, thanks for the insightful info. i have been preparing for the CX interview when i came across your prep for dragon air. i have done a couple of searches for that book by AJ Walters, Understanding Performance, but keep coming up empty. could someone please help me on where to find this book.
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The book is available at Transair Pilot Shop (UK)
Link : http://www.transair.co.uk/product4.a...Product_ID=720
In case that doesn't work, their site is www.transair.co.uk
Happy Studying. On a side note, I hope I'm not the only one that is finding 'Handling the Big Jets' a tough read!
Link : http://www.transair.co.uk/product4.a...Product_ID=720
In case that doesn't work, their site is www.transair.co.uk
Happy Studying. On a side note, I hope I'm not the only one that is finding 'Handling the Big Jets' a tough read!
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Does anyone out there know if Dragonair are recruiting for 747 classic pilots for the cargo outfit? If so what is the best way to go about it? I am aware that they based in HKG and MAN. What is the route structure like and are you an employee of Dragon or are you a contractor. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
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Originally Posted by 126.9
As far as exactly what questions you can expect to be asked goes; again, this is not rocket science. The vast majority of these airlines ask the same questions and you already know what to expect. It would be grossly unfair to all concerned, to post a list of questions here however, there are ways of working out what to expect. Get your hands on the two books mentioned above and possibly even the one by Captains X. Y and Z written for Emirates. Skip through all that airline specific junk and the stuff about Mechano, Lego and Viking Boats, and work on the technical and personal stuff. Buying a book on airline interviews (not the American Dr Phil variety) would do no harm either. Having said that, KA are looking for team players, future captains and long-term investment employees.
Any other KA blokes having an insight into this subject, feel free to post here!
Understanding Performance
by AJ Walters
ISBN No. 0-9541815-0-6
HERE
Preparing for your Cathay Pacific Interview
By Captains X, Y and Z.
HERE
Preparing for your Emirates Interview
By Captains X, Y and Z.
HERE
Any other KA blokes having an insight into this subject, feel free to post here!
Understanding Performance
by AJ Walters
ISBN No. 0-9541815-0-6
HERE
Preparing for your Cathay Pacific Interview
By Captains X, Y and Z.
HERE
Preparing for your Emirates Interview
By Captains X, Y and Z.
HERE
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Thx, 126.9! Very informative!
btw, how about the layout of Dragonair CPP? There are a lots of discussion and sharing about CX CPP, but I could hardly find any about Dragonair. I would be grateful if anyone can provide any ideas, experiences or comments about dragonair CPP selection process.
btw, how about the layout of Dragonair CPP? There are a lots of discussion and sharing about CX CPP, but I could hardly find any about Dragonair. I would be grateful if anyone can provide any ideas, experiences or comments about dragonair CPP selection process.