Pass Your Dragonair Selection.
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Hello All, 
It’s been a long time since I've looked on Pprune, because I thought it was full nonsense. But what I have read here today has impressed me.
I've been with Dragonair for 4 years and they have been brilliant on most occasions. You will get the odd time where things don't go your way but that is life.
The pay is relatively good and the work is great. Those of you who have not flown with three crew, well you're letting the best in life pass you by. We've got a fantastic bunch of guys on the Freighter fleet and we all generally get along as mates.
The Classic is great to fly and is a lot in some ways more fun than the automated jets most of us have flown. Don't let the word classic fool you, because these girls have been very well refurbished with all sorts of goodies, to make our lives a little easier, i.e. fully integrated FMS and EFIS displays.
Time away varies from 4-12 days on followed by a minimum of 6 days off, if you've travelled over the required time zones. In the years that I have worked for them I can still count the 12 day trips on one hand. Generally we do 9 on with at least 6-8 off.
Its a great job with lots of fun and good guys.
Good luck to all.
It’s been a long time since I've looked on Pprune, because I thought it was full nonsense. But what I have read here today has impressed me.
I've been with Dragonair for 4 years and they have been brilliant on most occasions. You will get the odd time where things don't go your way but that is life.
The pay is relatively good and the work is great. Those of you who have not flown with three crew, well you're letting the best in life pass you by. We've got a fantastic bunch of guys on the Freighter fleet and we all generally get along as mates.
The Classic is great to fly and is a lot in some ways more fun than the automated jets most of us have flown. Don't let the word classic fool you, because these girls have been very well refurbished with all sorts of goodies, to make our lives a little easier, i.e. fully integrated FMS and EFIS displays.
Time away varies from 4-12 days on followed by a minimum of 6 days off, if you've travelled over the required time zones. In the years that I have worked for them I can still count the 12 day trips on one hand. Generally we do 9 on with at least 6-8 off.
Its a great job with lots of fun and good guys.
Good luck to all.
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OK, I'll apologize up front about my ignorance on KA. But, just surfed their website and found nothing about pilot hiring other than their cadet program. Am I missing something? Are they hiring? I'd like to throw my hat in the ring, just not sure how.
Thanks for any info.
Mink
Thanks for any info.
Mink
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Mink,
They are hiring but don't need to advertise as there are still plenty of pilots applying. Just apply to the address listed in one of the posts and see what happens. If you are invited to an interview please take note of what has been said in the first post by 126.9.
Good Luck
They are hiring but don't need to advertise as there are still plenty of pilots applying. Just apply to the address listed in one of the posts and see what happens. If you are invited to an interview please take note of what has been said in the first post by 126.9.
Good Luck
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hi ngkaka
i just did my amplitude test. u did yours back in feb? u must have been the first few. amplitude test results are due in mid april i was told by Ceci
how did you do in the apt test?
i just did my amplitude test. u did yours back in feb? u must have been the first few. amplitude test results are due in mid april i was told by Ceci
how did you do in the apt test?
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hi hekokimushi vbmenu_register("postmenu_2471981", true); ,
yes, i do believe i'm in the first batch of applicants, as i submitted the application the first day they post the opening. So i did my aptitude test in Feb. I'm not sure whether results of all applicants would be notified in mid-april, although she told me should be within 1-2 weeks, I didnt receive any news yet.
yes, i do believe i'm in the first batch of applicants, as i submitted the application the first day they post the opening. So i did my aptitude test in Feb. I'm not sure whether results of all applicants would be notified in mid-april, although she told me should be within 1-2 weeks, I didnt receive any news yet.
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They are hiring but don't need to advertise as there are still plenty of pilots applying.
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Dragonair IFALPA Ban
Originally Posted by xtwapilot
Can anyone shed some light on the recruitment ban and whether it extends to F/Os as well or just DEC? Thanks
xtwapilot
xtwapilot
It is valid for both FO's and DEC on the 747-400. No ban on the airbusfleet or the 747-200/300 fleet.
More information on www.dpa.hk
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Originally Posted by Ka-life
It is valid for both FO's and DEC on the 747-400. No ban on the airbusfleet or the 747-200/300 fleet.
More information on www.dpa.hk
More information on www.dpa.hk
How can you have a recruitement ban on a specific aircraft type? If it's because of the wholly owned company that was started for the U.S. operation, Cathay pilot's union already tried to fight that and couldn't. How do you guys proposed to fight the same situation within the same legal system? I think the best you can do is have the same situation that Cathay's pilots did, allow the company to form this wholly owned but put them on the same seniority list. The one big problem I see with allowing pilots already on KA seniority list to crew the 747-400 with a U.S. base, is the rights of abode. Unless there are pilots at KA that have the right to work in the US, they can't be based here. And even if there are pilots on KA's list that have the right to work in the US, their seniority might not allow them to hold that position, so position would have to be filled out of seniority. This is a very tough situation for you guys, good luck.
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Initial test for cadet pilot programme
Hi everyone! i am applying for the cadet pilot programme in Dragon Airline, and will be having the initial test next week. The girl I talked to said it would be an hour test to test your english and reasoning.
Does anyone have any tips for this test?
Thank you!
Carol
Does anyone have any tips for this test?
Thank you!
Carol
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From the DPA website www.dpa.hk
Hong Kong Dragon Airlines (Dragonair) has recently advertised direct entry positions for
Commanders and First Officers on the soon to be introduced B747-400 aircraft. You may be
aware that the Dragonair Pilots Association Committee (DPAC) has put into place an IFALPA
sanctioned hiring ban that would affect any person who takes up one of the advertised positions
to fly for Dragonair or its wholly owned subsidiary, Flight Crew Services (FCS). The DPAC
would like to provide you with some information to assist you in your very important career
decision to leave your current employer to take up a position with Dragonair or FCS.
Although the offer of a position may sound straightforward, the reality is somewhat different.
The DPAC is in the process of taking the Company to court over a number of issues associated
with the introduction of the B747-400. These pertain to violations of existing contracts and
letters of agreement by the Company. Specifically:
a. the proposed introduction of a Los Angeles and New York base violates a letter of
agreement between the DPAC and the Company,
b. offering direct entry positions violates seniority provisions enshrined in the Dragonair
Pilots Conditions of Service (COS), and
c. the financial package offered by the Company violates existing Dragonair Pilot’s
contractual rights to transfer to another aircraft type on their current COS.
Before you resign from your current position, you should know that the legal position of the
DPAC is very strong and the arguments are compelling. These arguments may prevent the
Company from commencing the operation on schedule. The DPAC recommends that all
prospective pilots:
a. Avoid accepting a position in any company that cannot offer a high degree of certainty
regarding the terms of employment.
b. Avoid accepting a position in any company under which an IFALPA hiring ban is
being applied. There are better alternatives in the current employment market.
c. Avoid adversely affecting your career by working for a company whose chosen
management philosophy is to undermine the contractual rights of its employees.
Dragonair has built itself an enviable reputation as being one of the last great places to work.
This is largely because of the rights and conditions that the DPAC has fought to preserve.
While a negotiated solution to this current situation is not out of the question at this stage, only
one thing is certain. Any pilot who takes up a position flying the B747-400 will be in the
middle of an industrial, legal and financial tug of war.
Yours sincerely,
The DPAC
Commanders and First Officers on the soon to be introduced B747-400 aircraft. You may be
aware that the Dragonair Pilots Association Committee (DPAC) has put into place an IFALPA
sanctioned hiring ban that would affect any person who takes up one of the advertised positions
to fly for Dragonair or its wholly owned subsidiary, Flight Crew Services (FCS). The DPAC
would like to provide you with some information to assist you in your very important career
decision to leave your current employer to take up a position with Dragonair or FCS.
Although the offer of a position may sound straightforward, the reality is somewhat different.
The DPAC is in the process of taking the Company to court over a number of issues associated
with the introduction of the B747-400. These pertain to violations of existing contracts and
letters of agreement by the Company. Specifically:
a. the proposed introduction of a Los Angeles and New York base violates a letter of
agreement between the DPAC and the Company,
b. offering direct entry positions violates seniority provisions enshrined in the Dragonair
Pilots Conditions of Service (COS), and
c. the financial package offered by the Company violates existing Dragonair Pilot’s
contractual rights to transfer to another aircraft type on their current COS.
Before you resign from your current position, you should know that the legal position of the
DPAC is very strong and the arguments are compelling. These arguments may prevent the
Company from commencing the operation on schedule. The DPAC recommends that all
prospective pilots:
a. Avoid accepting a position in any company that cannot offer a high degree of certainty
regarding the terms of employment.
b. Avoid accepting a position in any company under which an IFALPA hiring ban is
being applied. There are better alternatives in the current employment market.
c. Avoid adversely affecting your career by working for a company whose chosen
management philosophy is to undermine the contractual rights of its employees.
Dragonair has built itself an enviable reputation as being one of the last great places to work.
This is largely because of the rights and conditions that the DPAC has fought to preserve.
While a negotiated solution to this current situation is not out of the question at this stage, only
one thing is certain. Any pilot who takes up a position flying the B747-400 will be in the
middle of an industrial, legal and financial tug of war.
Yours sincerely,
The DPAC