Adelaide "Flight Screening Program" (FSP)...
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Adelaide "Flight Screening Program" (FSP)...
I've passed the cadet pilot 2nd interview. I will go to Parafield, Adelaide, Australia for a 14 days flying evaluation test.
I had about 50 hours of flying experience with C-172, according to the information from the BAE web site. I will be doing the extra 3 aerobatic flight assessments with the tail-wheel ?gMudry CAP 10B?h. I wonder, what will I be testing? How do they score people? Is it better for me to get aerobatic rating before I go? Will they test another thing if I have aerobatic or tail-wheel rating? Exactly, what sort of thing they focus on?
It?fs so hard for me to be able to pass the 2nd interview this time, I?fve failed twice before. Therefore I need a good preparation before I go to Adelaide.
Can anyone here kind enough to share their experience with us? Thank you.
For more FSP info, see the offical link below from BAE...
http://www.aac.com.au/baefta-a/train...ghtgrading.htm
I had about 50 hours of flying experience with C-172, according to the information from the BAE web site. I will be doing the extra 3 aerobatic flight assessments with the tail-wheel ?gMudry CAP 10B?h. I wonder, what will I be testing? How do they score people? Is it better for me to get aerobatic rating before I go? Will they test another thing if I have aerobatic or tail-wheel rating? Exactly, what sort of thing they focus on?
It?fs so hard for me to be able to pass the 2nd interview this time, I?fve failed twice before. Therefore I need a good preparation before I go to Adelaide.
Can anyone here kind enough to share their experience with us? Thank you.
For more FSP info, see the offical link below from BAE...
http://www.aac.com.au/baefta-a/train...ghtgrading.htm
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Unless you don't intend to let them know and do some aero work before hand, I don't think it will be much of a difference.
They are trying to access your skills in handling something you are not use to...do you want to lie to yourself by going out and practice everything at least once?
I recommend you just go and give it your best shot.. there are somethings in life that is better not to be prepared, and just go with the flow.
Unless you don't intend to let them know and do some aero work before hand, I don't think it will be much of a difference.
They are trying to access your skills in handling something you are not use to...do you want to lie to yourself by going out and practice everything at least once?
I recommend you just go and give it your best shot.. there are somethings in life that is better not to be prepared, and just go with the flow.
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What they do is they look at how well you learn. Even if you have an aero rating the instructors can always find something new for you to try. And inevitably new things for experienced guys are more advanced hence harder.
Therefore I think it's best not to do too much before you head down.
If you can manage it, being nervous etc as you sound, enjoy the CAP10. There's nothing better than pulling >5Gs until both you and your instructor grey out! (Well, maybe except actually graduating)
Say hi to SZY for me when you go looping in her!
Therefore I think it's best not to do too much before you head down.
If you can manage it, being nervous etc as you sound, enjoy the CAP10. There's nothing better than pulling >5Gs until both you and your instructor grey out! (Well, maybe except actually graduating)
Say hi to SZY for me when you go looping in her!
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CPtoCP,
Just show them what you know, be yourself. It is not as hard as you think. Just sit there and relax. Enjoy the aero.
SZY is pretty nice! (and SUD as well)
+6G/-2G I think
Just show them what you know, be yourself. It is not as hard as you think. Just sit there and relax. Enjoy the aero.
SZY is pretty nice! (and SUD as well)
+6G/-2G I think
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Ok 4.5G then! 0.5G more than what I was supposed to do is how I remember it.
I guess it wouldn't matter whether it was intentional or not as you were looking to get that off your chest regardless.
I guess it wouldn't matter whether it was intentional or not as you were looking to get that off your chest regardless.
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Nothing to get off my chest, just to get it right. Some people might get scared when it is compared to 6 G's instead of 4. A normal loop will pull through that easily and once you sustaining 4 Gs it is easy to start to white out...then black out..
The guy is asking for future grading reference, no need to have him all stressed out already.
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The guy is asking for future grading reference, no need to have him all stressed out already.
Cheers
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Thank you
Thanks for your sincere advices, the information here is very useful. Now I have 2 more questions:
1. How do they fail a person?
2. I only had C-172 experience, obviously didn’t fly G115 and CAP 10B before… Is G115 easier to fly/land than the C172s? The rate of climb of the G115 is much greater than the C172s, and it’s much lighter too. What do I need to pay attention to this type of planes? Do they expect me to land the tail-wheel CAP 10 at first flight?
I haven’t flown for nearly one year, should I go to do some CTS with the Tobago or C115 before I go to YPPF? Again, I just want to show them my best in that FSP, nothing more. I believe practice makes perfect.
Once again, thanks for your valuable advices.
1. How do they fail a person?
2. I only had C-172 experience, obviously didn’t fly G115 and CAP 10B before… Is G115 easier to fly/land than the C172s? The rate of climb of the G115 is much greater than the C172s, and it’s much lighter too. What do I need to pay attention to this type of planes? Do they expect me to land the tail-wheel CAP 10 at first flight?
I haven’t flown for nearly one year, should I go to do some CTS with the Tobago or C115 before I go to YPPF? Again, I just want to show them my best in that FSP, nothing more. I believe practice makes perfect.
Once again, thanks for your valuable advices.
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I flew 152/ a little 172 and haven't flown for more than a year before grading.
Even though you are experienced, they want to see that you can LEARN their ways, and not what experience you have. You won't be landing the sucka till the end of the grading. Same with the CAP, just be able to do what they tell you. This is what flight grading is all about.
It might even be better for you to go in a bit rusty and learn it their way, if not your style might not be what they want.
Dude, take it easy... you still haven't mentioned for which company.
Cheers
Even though you are experienced, they want to see that you can LEARN their ways, and not what experience you have. You won't be landing the sucka till the end of the grading. Same with the CAP, just be able to do what they tell you. This is what flight grading is all about.
It might even be better for you to go in a bit rusty and learn it their way, if not your style might not be what they want.
Dude, take it easy... you still haven't mentioned for which company.
Cheers
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smallwing,
I appreciate your mature reply, cheers.
CPtoCP,
I certainly didn't mean to stress you out. What I tried to say is that it's a fun experience and I believe if you enjoy the process you'll perform better without doing much else.
The Grob is slippery like its glider cousins. One piece of advise I got was to use just my fingers to hold the controls, it helped.
Good luck.
I appreciate your mature reply, cheers.
CPtoCP,
I certainly didn't mean to stress you out. What I tried to say is that it's a fun experience and I believe if you enjoy the process you'll perform better without doing much else.
The Grob is slippery like its glider cousins. One piece of advise I got was to use just my fingers to hold the controls, it helped.
Good luck.
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The format for the grading tests is very simple, and as has been mentioned above what they are really really looking for is the ability to pick up manipulative skills quickly.
Basically:
1. Demonstration by the instructor of the manoeuver
2. Practice once by the student with correction and advice by instructor
3. Third time you're 'graded' without input from the instructor.
It's not a bad way of assessing your ability to pick up skills quickly. Preparation rather skews the system, so whether you have previous flying experience or not, it's best to just go and give it your best shot.
The CAP 10 is a ferrari of an aeroplane, have fun as you watch the world rotate about you!
(Guru you're a G-junkie!)
Basically:
1. Demonstration by the instructor of the manoeuver
2. Practice once by the student with correction and advice by instructor
3. Third time you're 'graded' without input from the instructor.
It's not a bad way of assessing your ability to pick up skills quickly. Preparation rather skews the system, so whether you have previous flying experience or not, it's best to just go and give it your best shot.
The CAP 10 is a ferrari of an aeroplane, have fun as you watch the world rotate about you!
(Guru you're a G-junkie!)
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my instructor at BAE told me that Grob is the worst aircraft during landing handling phrase he has ever flown, EVER! so did other instructors who did their training in other types of a/cs. I agree. Flying the TB-10 was so much easier and still is after flying a GROB115-B. But remember, all the instructors know this and would not expect spot-on performance from you. My friends who finished their PPL off told me that they still couldnt master the full landing tricks in the GROB whereas other types are easier to get used to.
I am sure you will be given the benefit of the doubt in this regard. Happy flying. Loved flyin the G-115 during initial training phrase.
All the best
Richie
I am sure you will be given the benefit of the doubt in this regard. Happy flying. Loved flyin the G-115 during initial training phrase.
All the best
Richie
