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8th Oct 2019, 01:00
Replies: 289
Views: 152,040
Posted By WingNut60

Just to clarify, we're talking about (at least)...

Just to clarify, we're talking about (at least) TWO inordinately delayed reports here - both for Air Asia

9M-XXE following event near Carnarvon, WA - July 2017

and

9M-XXC - BNE July 2016
7th Oct 2019, 02:21
Replies: 289
Views: 152,040
Posted By WingNut60

Annnd now it says 1st quarter of 2020. Now...

Annnd now it says 1st quarter of 2020.
Now 3-1/2 years for a report.
15th Jan 2018, 23:36
Replies: 289
Views: 152,040
Posted By WingNut60

ATSB Report due for release - Jan 2018

ATSB indicating final report due for release within this month - Jan 2018

Revised date for report - April 2018
19th Jul 2017, 03:36
Replies: 289
Views: 152,040
Posted By WingNut60

Back to work

And is now back in service, as of 17 July following 5 days in Manila.
14th Jul 2017, 13:42
Replies: 289
Views: 152,040
Posted By WingNut60

PER outbound - 9M-XXE

For the record, it seems that the aircraft left Perth for Manila as flight D7688 on Tuesday evening 11 July and appears to be still in Manila.
9th Jul 2017, 12:01
Replies: 289
Views: 152,040
Posted By WingNut60

No AND about it. I was simply describing what I...

No AND about it. I was simply describing what I was looking at as I waited to board my flight.

Seems like you read a bit more into it.



Actually, I have a pretty good idea.
But thanks for...
7th Jul 2017, 03:56
Replies: 289
Views: 152,040
Posted By WingNut60

12?? days and still sitting engineless in the...

12?? days and still sitting engineless in the rain
Well, actually, it does have one.
3rd Jul 2017, 16:45
Replies: 289
Views: 152,040
Posted By WingNut60

ATSB : Investigation number: AO-2017-066

FOR REFERENCE ;



ATSB rate incident as : Serious
Aircraft is still on the ground
2nd Jul 2017, 13:32
Replies: 289
Views: 152,040
Posted By WingNut60

D7237 turn-back

FR24 shows that the aircraft had started a turn-back to Perth less than 3 minutes after the big bang. For what it's worth, it also shows one of the first things to happen was a sharp climb of > 800...
1st Jul 2017, 08:57
Replies: 289
Views: 152,040
Posted By WingNut60

Please take another look at my post # 213 or,...

Please take another look at my post # 213 or, better still, read the full report at this link:

https://www.mot.gov.sg/news/20140822%20CX%20330%20Engine%20Fire%2016%20May%2011-%20Final%20Report.pdf...
29th Jun 2017, 01:01
Replies: 289
Views: 152,040
Posted By WingNut60

Just for the record, it seems that he commenced...

Just for the record, it seems that he commenced his turn-back approx. 3 mins after the bang.
If there was any contribution from base that went into the decision then it was pretty punctual and brief.
28th Jun 2017, 15:15
Replies: 289
Views: 152,040
Posted By WingNut60

Just to keep the discussion regarding the...

Just to keep the discussion regarding the turn-back decision alive, consider this prior event.

Yes, I know that changes were mandated and hopefully carried out following that incident, but until...
28th Jun 2017, 08:22
Replies: 289
Views: 152,040
Posted By WingNut60

YFRT - 5000 ft Not too many would want to land...

YFRT - 5000 ft
Not too many would want to land there on one engine methinks.
Aplogies to 172 owners
28th Jun 2017, 00:15
Replies: 289
Views: 152,040
Posted By WingNut60

Nothing definitive, no. But can I suggest that...

Nothing definitive, no. But can I suggest that you take a look at my post #63
But I'll recap with a small part of that post anyway.

More passenger quotes to substantiate that assumption at post...
26th Jun 2017, 14:51
Replies: 289
Views: 152,040
Posted By WingNut60

Interesting. But it all still seems very...

Interesting.

But it all still seems very subjective to me. I would hope that there is further advice that better defines the circumstances that they are describing.
Was the vibration level...
26th Jun 2017, 13:42
Replies: 289
Views: 152,040
Posted By WingNut60

Yes, maybe. Better facilities and access to...

Yes, maybe.
Better facilities and access to support.

But I'd put runway specs at the top of the list and an extra 800 metres might come in handy with a single engine landing.
Support facilities...
26th Jun 2017, 13:12
Replies: 289
Views: 152,040
Posted By WingNut60

Other than Perth itself, Learmonth would have to...

Other than Perth itself, Learmonth would have to be one of, if not THE, best alternate for heavies coming from or heading west.

I seriously doubt that any of the other WA regionals have better...
26th Jun 2017, 12:11
Replies: 289
Views: 152,040
Posted By WingNut60

Fair enough. So have I. I'm not unaware of the...

Fair enough. So have I.
I'm not unaware of the inconvenience (at the very least) of diverting to Exmouth.
I guess my interest revolves around the seemingly diametrically opposed opinions being...
26th Jun 2017, 11:50
Replies: 289
Views: 152,040
Posted By WingNut60

And decided nevertheless to land at the nearest...

And decided nevertheless to land at the nearest "suitable", even though it had two engines running perfectly and YPLM has limited medical facilities, is isolated, has limited RFF, limited ATC, &c,...
26th Jun 2017, 11:40
Replies: 289
Views: 152,040
Posted By WingNut60

Unlikely to block the runway. They had one good...

Unlikely to block the runway. They had one good engine; good enough to return to Perth.
And no shortage of taxiways. See following.

Learmonth RAAF Base in WA - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting...
26th Jun 2017, 07:13
Replies: 289
Views: 152,040
Posted By WingNut60

Indeed, it would not have been an easy decision...

Indeed, it would not have been an easy decision for the crew.
But, just taking a few of your comments:

It's isolated. - No, its remote, not isolated.
Limited RFF - OK. Not as good as Perth....
25th Jun 2017, 15:14
Replies: 289
Views: 152,040
Posted By WingNut60

You are of course quite correct; we do not know...

You are of course quite correct; we do not know exactly what happened.

However just to raise a couple of points;
1. The video is 41 secs in two clips - presumably spanning more than 41 secs
2....
25th Jun 2017, 13:05
Replies: 289
Views: 152,040
Posted By WingNut60

It gives a fair indication to me that the...

It gives a fair indication to me that the passengers were subjected to 1:50 (approx) of traumatising exposure when they could have been on the ground in 30 minutes.
25th Jun 2017, 12:50
Replies: 289
Views: 152,040
Posted By WingNut60

Precisely. Seeing that footage, nothing in my...

Precisely.
Seeing that footage, nothing in my mind justifies turning 180 away from valid alternate at 165 nm and running 465 nm to maintenance base.
25th Jun 2017, 12:29
Replies: 289
Views: 152,040
Posted By WingNut60

So be it. But can I ask again, did you actually...

So be it. But can I ask again, did you actually have a look at this footage?

AirAsia flight returns to Perth due to 'technical issue', passenger says 'blade came off turbine' - ABC News...
25th Jun 2017, 10:37
Replies: 289
Views: 152,040
Posted By WingNut60

Further favouring Exmouth / Learmonth as a...

Further favouring Exmouth / Learmonth as a choice.
I can not see any advantage to soldiering on all the way back to Perth other than convenience of repair facilities and handling disgruntled...
25th Jun 2017, 10:15
Replies: 289
Views: 152,040
Posted By WingNut60

What, I can't express MY opinion, now? Did you...

What, I can't express MY opinion, now?
Did you look at the footage from the previous posts. That was a LOT of vibration from a windmilling engine.
Now do that for an hour and a half +.

As i said...
25th Jun 2017, 08:59
Replies: 289
Views: 152,040
Posted By WingNut60

Turn back appears to have occurred about 465 nm...

Turn back appears to have occurred about 465 nm from Perth.
Distance to Exmouth was then about 165 nm

Looking at the way the aircraft was shaking, I'd have thought Exmouth / Learmonth would have...
25th Jun 2017, 08:43
Replies: 289
Views: 152,040
Posted By WingNut60

I have flown two airlines that invoked prayers as...

I have flown two airlines that invoked prayers as part of the pre-flight.
Invocation card in the back of the seat.
25th Jun 2017, 08:41
Replies: 289
Views: 152,040
Posted By WingNut60

Looks like turn back occurred about 1:20 into...

Looks like turn back occurred about 1:20 into flight; then 1:45'ish for return to Perth
Interesting that:

a) he peaked, briefly, at 511 knots while getting down to 24000 ft
b) speed while still...
25th Jun 2017, 08:19
Replies: 289
Views: 152,040
Posted By WingNut60

Exmouth definitely closer. Now lets talk about...

Exmouth definitely closer.
Now lets talk about what defines "suitable" again.
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